October 2014.. Thread 7.. Teeth, tantrums & tickles

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Hope this works ?

Ratbag baby woke every 90 minutes from 2am, but I suppose I should give credit where it's sure and say despite being in a strange bed she didn't actually sleep worse than normal. I wish she'd go back to sleeping well. I wish I knew what the problem was.

DPs sister suggested putting her in her own room might help as then we wouldn't be disturbing one another so much. I feel like it's a bit early, and also I don't want to have to get up and go next door four times a night, but if things aren't better in a few weeks... Does anyone have any thoughts?

Morning all, I have no qualms about leaving the baby with DH. If she cries it gives him an idea of how my day goes!
No poo for 24 hours meant I had to hose the baby down this morning

tatty I'm pretty certain that DD will be going in her own room when we move house in a couple of weeks time. She'll be exactly 5 months.

That's close enough to the guidelines 6 months for me!

tatty im pretty certain my lo wakes with dp's snoring & my movements, we are in the process of decorating her room so she will probably be going in soonish, like you im sort of dreading having to get up and go along the hall but hopefully it will be better all round for us ? Im convinced that i ruined dd1 chance to learn to self settle as i kept her in my room till she was one due to the fact i was moving around the time she was able to go into her own room and had to stay with my parents for a couple of months then by the time her room was ready she was just over one year old, so i dont want the same thing to happen if i can help it??

Tatty - we've got the same predicament here. Lo has very random sleep patterns. Sometimes every 2hrs, sometimes 3hrs. Occasional longer sleeps but I'm not convinced that moving her will make the difference.
A friend of ours did and the baby started sleeping through but only for a week or so. Then went to 2 hourly wakings.
For me, the ease of having her next to me leaves me with a little bit of sanity. At least I don't have to fully get up and can stay a bit dosy or just bring her into bed if it's the only answer.

I'm pinning hope on weaning. No idea if it will help but hoping so.

Last night we got a longer stretch and I think that it was a combination of a longer nap in the day and taking her for her first swimming lesson. It might mean she needs a lot of physical activity. Going for lots of tummy time and and decent stint in the bath tonight.

I wish I knew the answer too...

Well, we've tried formula. 50ml in amongst a normal boob feed. She slept for an hour afterwards instead of her normal 30 minutes, but that probably means nothing.

So far no other adverse outcomes - same amount of sick as usual, same reeking farts, same poo. If anything she's in a super bright mood - which I'm putting down to the nap time rather than the formula. Will try 100ml later on today.

I'm aiming to get a 250ml formula feed before bedtime - ready for when we finally get back to our house and can start some proper routines with alternating the adult who does bedtime etc.

Glad to hear that formula introduction is going well Goats.

If DD wasn't sleeping she would absolutely definitely be staying in her bedside cot next to me until she was sleeping through. I am far, far too lazy to get up in the night, let alone walk into another room.

She is sleeping well. But DS1 is still in the room which will be hers. So have to move him out, decorate and then she'll move in. So somewhere around 9-12 months probably.

Her being in our room makes no difference to anything, so doesn't really matter either way anyway.

We moved baby into her own room as she was getting too big for her crib, and was sleeping through.
So this week (post jabs and DH on nights) she's been pretty rubbish. Persevering though and hoping she remembers how to sleep again soon
Glad the formula went down ok Goats, good luck for the next lot.

She slept for an hour and a half early afternoon too. Blimey. Coincidence I'm sure.

We've had two MAJOR poo explosions in Pampers nappies over the last few days. I'm going straight back into Waitrose nappies as soon as this packet has gone. Friday I had the worst poo situation I've ever had - passenger seat of car, Tesco carpark, in normal parking space with couple waiting to get into their own car next door, another couple eating their lunch watching me, screaming totally naked child... me dropping poo soaked nappies, clothes and wetwipes out of the door into a stinking swampy pile as I worked. Urgh.

Oh dear Goats, I hate number 3s while we're out! Well done for handling the situation
She just did a huge one on DH as she got dried off after the bath, he's still delicate from last night- I laughed. A lot.

DD has been in her own cot and room since four months, only because of growing out of Moses basket. I think we both sleep better for it. I made sure she was familiar with her room and cot by changing nappies in there for a good while before. Saying that, her sleep is a bit broken at the moment.

Defo keen on waiting til 6 months before properly weaning, but on a curious whim, I gave her the teensiest bit of mashed banana tonight. She made choking sounds and my heart just stopped. It came out. Not trying that again for a good month!

Small has basically stopped sleeping for more than 45 - 60 minutes in her Sleepyhead. We watched her on the video monitor last night and her trying to shift around is what is waking her up. So, I'm going to Argos for a cot this afternoon. Will still be in my room, but think it's time for roaming space on a decent mattress.

The formula made no positive or negative difference to anything. Not going to use loads of it, will just do a mixture for the next few weeks as I move towards less breastfeeding at 6/7 months.

I think I'm probably too lazy to get up in the night and go into another room, even though it's directly next door so would involve approximately thirty seconds extra to each wake. That's thirty seconds I could be sleeping. Also, I don't think it's us waking her. I don't think it's anything, particularly. I think (hope) she's going to get over it on her own if we just hang on in.

MIL , who basically is lovely and tries really hard to be supportive, got slightly short shrift at the weekend, which I feel a bit guilty about. But she kept offering to put the baby to bed so I felt embarrassed having to say that it wouldn't work. Also saying things like (name of dp's sister's son) always has a bottle before bed to help him sleep (but Ada won't take a bottle and trying made us all so miserable we decided it wasn't worth it) and, every time the baby came back downstairs after a nap: "goodness, I thought she'd sleep much longer than that", or, "most babies would sleep much longer than that" which at one point caused DP to howl "we know" in a very desperate tone of voice. Home now though.

My mum just spends ages telling me that all babies sleep in buggies. Well, mine didn't when it was the car seat attached to wheels, and we only just got the proper buggy set up on Saturday. Obviously then my mum took her out straight away in it.. and ta da, sleep. Then yesterday she said 'why not put her in the buggy'.. so she did, went out for a walk in the rain, baby slept for 90+ minutes. Effing typical!

Sorry tatty but your DP's anguish made me laugh a bit! We are also at MIL's. The length of nap comment thing is hilarious. My DM did it for both of my sister's babies and for my own, and MIL did it for all of her grandkids too. They really truly honestly forget what babies do at different stages, as in the short nap being a thing at this age, not to mention the fact that babies usually don't sleep as well in strange houses.

DM has had 5 babies, and admits it's all a blur and she doesn't know how the hell she did it.

DH and I are going to reclaim the cot (currently in use as dd1's toddler bed) when we get back and set it up for the baby in our room and maybe start gradually sleeping in the spare room in a few weeks. We are definitely keeping her awake when we go to bed and that's frustrating.

Our Co sleeper cot has not been a medium success. Very handy to put the sleepyhead in initially, and great not to have to move on cold winter nights, but she's so close she wakes at the slightest movement or cough which is maddening.

Sounds like the 4 month regression is looming large. This article puts a more positive spin on this age: sarahockwell-smith.com/2013/08/29/help-my-4-5-month-old-is-sleeping-like-a-newborn-again-aka-as-the-4-5-month-old-babies-from-hell/

boganette.me/2015/02/26/i-am-grateful-now-fuck-off/

My friend just sent me this who is really sleep deprived from her youngest who is two... Im sure we have all been in this girls situation

Just about to read your link yellow nice to see you back

Well, my mother was right... she's been asleep in the buggy since 12.

Yellow - I love that article. I swing between OH MY GOD I NEED TO FIX THIS, and 'yeah this is just how it's going to be for a few weeks, I can hack a few more weeks...' - depends entirely on how much sleep I've had. If I've had a 3 hour stretch I'm all zen about it, if it's been a night of hourly wake ups I'd try anything to 'fix' it, even though I know that nothing is actually broken.

goats if it makes you feel better, mine won't sleep in the buggy, but MIL thinks the sling is, you know, a bit weird, so keeps saying maybe I should use the buggy more. I try to explain that we live in London without a car and so rely on public transport, which is a nightmare with a pram, but she still thinks it's basically affectation on my part.

Talking of which I've said I'll go and see someone near Henley on Wednesday and only afterwards realised we'll need picking up from the station which means car seat which means pram which means nightmare plus trying to time it there and back in order to somehow miss both rush hours because rush hour plus buggy... I'm an idiot.

Oh I hate the pram compared to the slings. My mum keeps talking to the child about 'your mother's poor back', which I assume is about getting me from sling to buggy. I live in a city too normally. I walk everywhere and jump on a bus if I'm tired or it's raining, in a few months I'll get a bike seat for her - both of those options need a sling not a pushchair. I can see that if I lived in a village all the time a buggy would getused mmuch more - mostly because you're in and out of the car all the time with a car seat. My mum (and most of my friends) have lived in villages with their babies - for them a buggy WAS a better option.

Having a dreadful day today. Baby won't nap, my back is killing me and DH is in a foul mood. He gets really angry with the baby which is so pointless and I'm about to go to my mum's for three nights so he'll have three fucking nights off. I don't think he has any idea how amazing that would be if it was me.

I've spent the whole afternoon in tears more or less which I expect poor A is picking up on. I'm the worst mother I really am.

Not having the greatest time here either at the moment - dh has gone on a weeks skiing holiday with his brother, and it has badly coincided with both me and DD having stinking colds. DD also steadily going from 12 hours unbroken a night fairly frequently, to 1.5 hour stretches at the very most. Thank goodness the inlaws have her whenever I need to catch up on sleep

Wow betty how has your DH wangled a week skiing??!!??! We've all had horrid colds too, finally starting to feel a bit better. DH is away for 2 nights so I'm praying for healthy children at least! Tonight's bedtime for DS was interesting, DD massively overtired, screamed unless held. She eventually nodded off while DS was in the bath but I didn't dare put her down while I got him out of the bath and into pjs - quite a challenge doing that juggling a sleeping baby!!

splendide you are not a bad mother!!!!!! Parenting is hard. Don't beat yourself up, easier said than done I know (I am often in tears at the moment too).

I agree Igotta it's all such hard work, you're doing a great job Splendide
E has tried so hard to be cheerful today, but every time we stopped doing "stuff" she remembered her teeth were hurting
Fingers crossed for better nights all round.