December 2012 : Stop that or your going in your cot.

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Oh no hales. At least you've got a great relationship with her already so she'll know it's not like you and how upset about you'll be. Try to be kind to yourself.

Hi all, been away at the in laws so just catching up. Sorry to hear about super tantrums - O's aren't normally too long lived and he responds pretty well to calm explanation and my absolute refusal to change my mind, but we had a shocker on Sunday! A small cousin (14 months, disturbed his carefully planned and self built train and track setup at the GPs and all hell broke loose. I took him to a different room for a chat but it took about 20 mins of quite literally jumping fury for him to calm down enough for me to actually get to the explanation/sorry part. All in hearing of a large portion of dh's family. Woo.

I agree with others spotty, you won't be the only parent in that position, and if ds isn't ready and you don't have to it's kinder to give him time. I'm sure they'll be able to fill the space easily enough?

O loved the snow up north, and meeting real 'hops' (our friends' rabbits). And this morning he made A laugh for the first time ever, doing high fives to him!

He is also verging on toilet training I think. He has very suddenly decided he prefers his nappy off to pee, or to be changed immediately, and gets quite distressed if we're not immediately able to enable this. He wants to sit on the loo but normally we're too late by this point or at any rate he doesn't pee. Any hints to help him with the next stage? I've explained we'll work with him to get it right but might take a bit of practice whichrhe seems happy with, but any suggestions would be very useful!

I sat A on the toilet every 15-20 minutes and bribed him if he did something. Amazing the effect a chocolate coin or haribo can have on a toddler's bladder! Even on Saturday when I knew he was holding it in the offer of a packet of sweets (which he was getting anyway) worked.

utopian, bare bum all the time at home. once he's nailed that put him in pants and go to familiar places. sit him on when you arrive and again just before you leave. don't react to accidents just change him and move on. if he's ready he'll do it, if not try again in a few months

r asked for the toilet at school today huge progress as he's only recently got comfortable asking my mum (would happily go when prompted)

We waited until dd was almost three and she was dry day and night in a few days. Will wait with ds as long as possible. Probably try in the summer when it's easy to be outside half naked! I hate potty training!

I was planning on waiting till summer too spotty, for the same reason.. delad, did you do bare bum (no nappy but trousers over,) or barefaced cheek as it were?
beasty he does almost anything for malteasers - did it set a bribery-and-corruption precedent though?

We were the same as Delad she is barefaced bum all the time in the house then when she was regularily asking she put her knickers on. Then we started taking her out short trips at 1st but i will still put a nappy on her if i know we're going a distance.

Another question (you never expect the Spanish inquisition,) what exactly ARE training pants and is there a point to them? Essential or marketing lark?

naked from the waist down at home.

babylegs are very useful!

cloth training pants are OK for little dribbles but won't hold a full wee. I got some preloved (need to flog them on actually!) but didn't really use them

A con. Decent trousers will absorb more! And the HV suggested putting a pull up over normal pants if you're doing a long journey or out somewhere for a long time. Then there won't be a mess (especially in the car seat), but they'll be aware that they've wet their pants.

I agree there a con you can manage fine. The only difference i found when using them was there weren't as tight around the top of H's leg. Which is great as she gets rashes round there.

H is full of cold and keeps cuddling me saying, mummy me sick. Awww its awful hearing her say that.

I got my bloods back from immunologist. I'm vitamin d deficient and my ANA is highly positive so they need to exclude SLE. Honestly I'm not sure I could have much else wrong with me.

Oh no Spotty hopefully it will come back ok

When your LO's vomit do you leave them in their own beds and just check on them more? Obviously i mean after cleaning the mess.

I have. As long as DS was happy to go back into his own bed. Any other symptoms? Temp or anything before bed?

I hope you have a quiet night

My sleep training with DD stepped up a gear tonight. I went up when she woke - she goes down easily after a nice big feed at bedtime but wakes an hour or so later and I spend some time fighting her back to sleep. Tonight I went up and had to leave again. I shut the door because I knew she would cry but I couldn't face 30+ minutes of shushing, cuddling and repeat and repeat.

I went back up to her 10-15 minutes later and cuddled her to sleep. She calmed down quickly in my arms (unlike previous nights) and went off to sleep. I felt horrible. I know it is the best thing to do for both of us. I just wish it wasn't so bloody hard!

And thank you for asking how I was Hales. I was feeling pretty crappy so I just lurked. I didn't feel like posting. I'm feeling better this week. I'm looking forward to spring and hopefully my therapist will be back soon..... I'm struggling but I think I'm figuring out what I need to change.

she has had a cold this week so i think its probably part of that.

Nutella if it helps i think it sounds like your doing the right thing for you and your H Hopefully the therapist can help you out abit. You seemed to enjoy your exercise the other week could that be the thing you need to change. Maybe regular exercise maybe the thing that helps most.

Nutella good sleep will be best for both of you

Hales a one off then back to bed a sick bug and ds is in with us as he's not used to it. Dd would be ok in her bed with a bowl.

Yes, sports really do help! I'm hoping as the weather improves and DD gets bigger to start jogging again. I did couch to 5 k a few years ago and really enjoyed it.

Thank you. I am a whimp but DD is a cuddle monster. Which I love. But I definitely sleep deeper when she is not in bed with me. And she likes to poke her toes into my leg

hales I put them back in their beds and check on them although they tend to call out and wake me just before/after the vom! Dd2 always used to be sick with a cold - mucus going down her throat in the night and upsetting her tummy.
nutella it is so very hard to sleep train but if you've reached that point then you know it needs to be done to ensure everyone's survival! 10 mins crying then cuddle to sleep sounds like a good start. Cuddles are awesome but so is sleep!

spotty the only bit of your medical stuff I understood was vitamin d deficiency. Hope you're ok.

Ditto spotty, are you okay?

O kicked off in a big way at bedtime, after being sweet and fine all day. No idea what exactly, but partly down to trying to procrastinate bedtime. When he just kept faffing we said that we'd leave him to it which caused tears/temper, and we left him a bit then dh went to sit with him as normal but couldn't extract his hand without misery again. At 9.15pm he just told him he had to come "and help mummy", and left. Cue heartbreaking sobbing for about 4 minutes and calling for both of us and then sleep.

I now feel dreadful and have ever since - but we both agree we can't sit with him for up to an hour while he falls asleep anymore, and he should be able to go to sleep without now. But this means the same misery every bedtime for at least a week I guess now, and I HATE it. Are we right or not to do this?

Utopian it's really difficult. I always say it's only a problem if you're not happy with it.

The Dr thinks I might have lupus and the ana is an antibody. Mine measured second highest you can get so now I have to have more bloods to rule lupus out. If it's not that then it's definitely something. I obviously already have autoimmune disease with the diabetes but there's something else going on.

WL hope your mums appt goes well (it is today?)

Utopian, i think your also doing the right thing. It must be so hard for you and Nutella and Stacks sleep wise. You have to do what suits you all best. FWIW i think O will adapt quickly to his new routine as he is bright little thing. I know your upset at the minute but when your new routine is in place you will all be much happier.

H vomited as a one off, she coughed alot last night but FX she seems to have woken up brighter today.

Spotty when do you get the results from the Lupus Test?

WL, i hope your mums appointment goes well and that you get an plan of her treatment. I know your like me and like having action plans.

I'm having the blood test today and it can take up to two weeks.

Ds and I have just made cheese scones