October 2014 // thread 4 // a lot of night feed chatting!

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Welcome everyone. You're doing a good job by the way. Remember that.

Bumboo does that 'creep reflex' now towards my boo which is amusing because he was never interested before and I have no milk.

Mrs - in hospital they said he had a 'little' tongue tie but he was sticking his tongue out so wasn't a problem. Note: He's never stuck his tongue out again and was never able to latch.
Im having my 6week check on Friday and will speak with my doctor. Im really not happy.

Kirstie that is just awful. That poor family. To go through birth and then that happen. Certainly makes me hug my little one tight.

Jemima mine is 8 weeks and sleeps on his front. I have an angel care monitor to lessen the panic...

We've had a wonderful day today, after a decent amount of sleep past night I forced a 10am nap. Then we had a play and went shopping. I bought some new underwear (36DD!! )
Then she had another nap, food, bath, food and back to sleep!! Maybe it's true- more sleep= more sleep!!

Sorry for the me post but I'm over the moon

More sleep = not-grumpy child, which means everything is calmer... cue more sleeping for all. That's what works here anyway.

Munday & Goats I'm with you on this point. The more sleep they get the better, sometimes pretty much all of the time sleep has to be 'forced' with DS but boy do we all benefit! I worked hard for the morning sleep today & as a result he took 2 3/4 hrs this afternoon & went to bed at 7:30pm. So... I'm going to sleep. Night ya all see you at some stage between 11pm & 2am no doubt. Xx

Munday- how did you encourage the 10am nap? DS isn't great at daytime napping at the moment and becomes overtired (he's found his voice over the last few days so wants to spend all day 'talking')

Mrs - if you are not breastfeeding, why is the tongue tie a snip needed?

Munday - That has always been my philosophy. All four of my children have slept a lot, on my insistence, especially as babies. DD (9 weeks) generally has only 4-5 hours awake per 24, probably 2-3 hours of that is feeding. I could never understand those who said their baby didn't 'want' to sleep.

Pregnantagain - how was your bedtime? I get lazy if I'm doing bedtime for my 4 on my own. No baths those days, or just showers for the older ones. They will read to each other rather tan me, bedtime biscuit in return for tidying a room downstairs, etc etc.

I am a huge fan of delegating responsibility to the children

How do people get their babies to bed at 7pm? Mine is waking up then from a nap

I totally agree with delegating to the kids fate they all muck in and help out when they need to! It was actually fine minimal crying and whinging which is my main aim

And to steal yellows (I think!) phrase everyone fed and no one dead! :)

Sore think it was fluke- I wrapped her up in a blanket, fed and gentle burping. Then I gave her a dummy and rocked her against my boob as if feeding and she drifted off. Definitely a pro-dummy mummy!
Only thing different today was I put socks on under her onesie. HTH.
She's had some awake time with daddy since dinner but I still managed a nice soak in the bath.
Good luck everyone

missus I try and guide r into naps at time to suit both me and him. I don't agree with Gina ford at all but her sleep routines do work and like fatemy four have always slept really well.
I start his day at 7 then he's ready to sleep at about 8.45 when I leave for school so nods of in the car. Then he wakes about 10 because he's hungry from his 7 o'clock feed. I keep him awake til about 11.30 then cuddle/rock him to sleep. He usually wakes at 2ish for a feed. Then I go on school run at 3.15 and he falls asleep til 4.30/5 give him a little feed to keep him going bath at about 6.15 then a feed then asleep for about 7.

Then there are days when it all goes absolutely tits up and he's still up at ten!!

Fate I agree, other than if in pain with reflux or teeth, or during that weird sleep strike that was the 4 month sleep regression, (touch wood!) I've always managed to get mine to sleep, or go back to sleep. Usually by boob, sling, warmth or in my toddlers case - a trip in the pushchair. Any waking before 7am is counted as a night waking and they're put back to bed!

Neither of mine slept if I ate dairy or soy - its not fun giving up cheese and chocolate but frankly I'm such a sleep junky, I'd give up water for a good night's sleep!

I think we might be coming to the end of cluster feeding. Argh she's too wee to have a bedtime.

Another pro-dummy mummy here Munday

Shocked this time around because DD would not accept a dummy and this is something I'd not come across before. I felt mildly smug proud that she would settle without a dummy. But then she got to 3 weeks and the evening screaming/feeding started. I tried and tried with the dummy but she gagged on it or spat it out. Eventually she finally started accepting a dummy at 7 weeks, same time as cluster feeding finished. Coincidence?

The dummy is relegated to the car but god it keeps us sane if she's going mumpy for a feed and we're stuck in traffic! Anywhere else I'll happily lop out a boob

I'm a big fan of dummies too, they calm him right down when he's red and cross.

I think I 'll start aiming for some kind of routine. Bedtime is currently around 11pm, from what others have written this seems bit late. He's my first so I have no idea what is normal.

At 8 weeks he seems to be feeding much less, rather than being pleased I'm worried. He seems happy enough so I should probably relax rather than forcing my boob at him with every grumble.

has anyone who is currently breastfeeding tried to get their baby to take the odd bottle while they are out? my baby George refuses all bottles I've tried a few different positions, with me in and out the house, before, during and after feeds but nothing seems to be working it's my birthday in 2 weeks and I'd love some time just me and my DP

Rudy bedtime here is between 10 and 11 just because she comes upstairs with us then. I'll think about a proper bedtime in January or February I reckon. We need to think about the logistics of two monitors and them interfering with each other . Any tips? Its a big old house so we can't do without as we'd not hear either toddler or baby from downstairs.

Jemima maybe get your DH to try giving the bottle, lots of BF babies won't take a bottle from mum as they can smell your milk and hold out for a boob. We've not tried bottles this time as after battling DS to take one he rejected it utterly at 12 weeks and I can't be arsed with the battle this time. I've resigned ourselves to being tied for the first six months anyway as baby sitters for a toddler and a newborn are like hens teeth! We found nuk bottles with latex teats and tommee tippee natural(?) ones were tolerated the best. Experiment with temperature too.

Jemima We found I had to leave the room altogether before Baby Badger would take a bottle of expressed milk, but we've had great success with Dr Browns bottles and now I can bottle feed as well as DH if I need to.

Thank you so much I only want to go to the hairdressers and have a meal out ha currently having a bad night with ds he can't settle and has been wide awake all night so far:( he's been a nightmare since his injections

Eell, in the week since we started enforcing some sort of sleep after 7pm so we can eat dinner, she's had another feed at 10.30 ish then woken up at 2 - 2.30 instead of gone 3.30. Annoying. To get an evening with boyfriend, I lose sleep. Hopefully it'll start getting back to a 4 or 5 hour block.

It's funny how a week seems like ages, and how you start thinking 2 or 3 days of the same thing means you've cracked it/fucked it, when in reality it means bugger all.

Goats don't be demistifying the baby whispering, those 2 day patterns are something to cling on to at this stage. It's all we have!
I'm in similar situation to you on wakings down at 7:30, up 11pm, up at 3:30ish. Hope the next one is at 7:30/8am. FX.
Pregnant you are my Gina Ford, I'm going to try your daytime nap schedule today. Thanks.
I read some good info on baby sleep here -
www.troublesometots.com
Never been on that site before, which surprises me with this being DC2.

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There's a baby attached to my breast right now but it can't be my son, he fed for over an hour straight, finishing after 1am. Who left a starving child in my bedroom?! Where is my happy, sated, sound asleep baby?

I don't think I'm actually awake right now. I'll look for this thread in the normal human awake hours and find I've started a new topic about changelings in AIBU.

robindeer my ds is going through the same faze at the minute it's almost like he's new born and cluster feeding again brill ha