October 2014 // thread 4 // a lot of night feed chatting!

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Welcome everyone. You're doing a good job by the way. Remember that.

I'm having a crazy nostalgia wobble at 5am?!
Did anyone do a roll call of all the babies from the original ante natal thread? There has been a lot of months spent talking to each other. I think I posted around the 8 wk mark, so 40 weeks of chatting!
Anyone know how Portico is doing, heading back to work so early must be tough.
Also, please can someone link me to the FB group? I really want to hold on to you guys.
Blooming heck, better go to sleep before I have melt down!

We've had 4hours! Whoohoo!! does little dance with baby
I would love to say I'm feeling all refreshed after an extra hours sleep but I woke up at 3hrs ping thinking what is wrong with my baby not wanting to feed? He now won't burp

New thread ideas Robin: AIBU to want my 6wk old baby to .... Feed himself?

CJ speak to Kirsti re the FB thread. She gave me access xx

Wow a four hour sleep stretch! Thank you little man

We've had four hours sleep, feed, three hours and now feeding again. I feel positively refreshed! Good job baby L!

Oh dear, hit the side of a solid wooden stool. I can barely move it and it hurts. Ow ow ow!! I know it's only a finger but it's making it very difficult to use the whole hand!!! Grrr

Baby was up from 11:30-2:15 last night she was obviously in pain from the type of screaming she was doing poor thing. Though she ten slept till 7am.
I hope this doesn't mean the ranitidine isn't working as generally she does seem a bit more settled she is still being sick bit that has reduced a bit too. I hope the medicine just needs a bit more time.

yellow where did you had about the sleeping on parents room for 12 months? I cannot find anythig in writing about this and the lullaby trust (formally the foundation or the study of infant deaths fsid) still says 6 months. We haven't been informed of this at work either my colleagues haven't heard of it. Lo certainly can't fit in our room for that long as nothing bigger than a crib would fit and I don't feel comfortable co-sleeping with OH in the bed he's a deep sleeper and flails around in the bed.

Someone on the FB group said it I think they'd been told by a HV - I nearly fainted. I love mine dearly but share a room with a snuffling, fidgeting one year old - dear god NOOOOOOOO . I hope its balls!

Yep it was my hv who told me the guidelines had changed

Ha! Imagine the response to that thread? There'd be a lot of talk of social services.

It's not that I want him to feed himself, just that recently he's been sleeping from midnight/1am to 5/6am. After a ridiculous, epic, over an hour long feed I had high hopes of a good stretch of sleep. Who was it earlier who said that we imagine routines after a few days of similar behaviour? Yep, guilty.

Anyway, he's just had another mammoth feed. I swear he's grown overnight. He weighs a tonne!

Haha can you imagine and I wasn't saying you wanted your baby too feed himself, although it would be nice if... Lol!!

I too am starting to feel the weight of a growing baby... All 5kgs of him :)

So I have a question: according to the aptamil box my baby should now be having more formula and less feeds. How do I do that when he's been grazing the last few days. He's definitely not asking for more food quite the opposite. Any ideas?

Soooo, after a week of screaming from 11pm-4/5am it turns out poor DD didn't have wind as I'd thought. She was just hungry. I caved last night and tried her with a bottle of formula and she took 100ml and went straight off to sleep for 4 hours. I must not be producing enough milk fast enough for her final feed. That explains the fussiness and crying after coming off the breast. I'd mistaken it as comfort feeding and pain :(

This parenting stuff is hard. Got HV and outreach team coming to see us today. Really hope she's put weight on. I'm feeling very guilty.

Pebble night milk is thicker, more calorific and flows slower - that might be why she's frustrated?

I don't know where she heard it from mrs unless she is misinterpreting the message that safe sleep practices should be followed for 12 months (meaning bedding sleeping on back) as meaning should be in same room. How as your 6 week check mrs is your Bp back to normal? Are you off meds now?

Those Who Have Come Out The Other Side of Cluster Feeding: what were the signs? More spaced feeds? More efficient at feeding? Less fussiness? What would be a normal spacing (2/3 hrs?)

I'm getting desperate here. He'll be eight weeks on Friday but was a week early so seven weeks in terms of development I guess. Most of the time he finishes and 15 mins later wants more. Right nipple in agony ( he never seems to get to the final tongue flicking stage with that one, just yanks and grumbles). He's gone from 7,3 at birth to nearly 11 pounds at seven weeks so it must be going somewhere. Meanwhile I am seven pounds lighter than my pre pregnancy weight :( I.m lighter than my wedding day for god's sake...

goats the changed night wakings are my main concern about moving his bedtime back. At the moment (past week) he does 10-3 and then back down to 6/7. At Xmas we'll be in a house with nine children and eight adults so feel I must have some kind of earlier bedtime for him if he is not going to get totally overstimulated and exhausted with all the noise and activity.

fatpony my little girl seems to sleep much better surrounded by noise- she slept whilst we were at a raucous dinner for 10 not so long ago. Think routines are meant to work better after 12 weeks so don't beat yourself up if he doesn't go down earlier

Fatpony yes to all of the above. Heidi had 10-11 straight days of it, 2 of which seemed to last most of my waking day! She had a couple of iffy days afterwards where I thought she was taking up where she'd left off but luckily she's settled into 2-3 hours between feeds during the day. I haven't timed it but she "empties" one boob in about 10 mins or so i think?

Fatpony congrats on the weight loss!! That's amazing. Well done

I cant seem to get into a routine either, im not getting upset about it this time as i think when i set "expectations" i get upset when things dont go to plan.

My wee dd is going 3 days without a poo and i think this is stopping her getting her into a proper feeding schedule as the days she's not empyting herself she is so uncomfortable and struggles to take a full feed then looks for the rest an hour later, this just has a knock on effect to each feed througout the day. Its so frustrating as the the days when she clears out she wacks 6 ounce in nearly one go, then goes to sleep happy & satisfied. I mentioned this at her 6 week check but the doctor said just to give her system time to settle! I feel so sorry for her as i hate that feeling myself

kirstie my heart & soul aches for your poor friend & her family s

Thanks missus but it wasn't intentional- the first chunk was from ten days of baby blues/anxiety and appetite loss, the second lot is from him feeding so much I reckon. I look lanky and pale and my pre pregnancy clothes don't fit. I'm mainlining biscuits.

Kirsti there is hope then...It's all a bit of a blur how many days he has been feeding like this. I dream of 2/3 hr feeds! He's an easygoing, cheerful little thing most of the time but if not just fed/in bouncer for 15/on playmat for ten then he is demanding a feed. I keep on starting to prepare the evening's dinner only to have it interrupted!

The end of cluster feeding came overnight - partly due to me reading about someone who realised their child wasn't really feeding, just sucking for comfort, so they guessed that it might be tired. I thought I'd have a go at seeing if mine was also tired, so I did huge distraction when she came off the boob until she stopped wailing, then did hardcore 'go to sleep' manoeuvres... and tadaa, she went to sleep. So, we've used that to base our sleep routine on.

It might be that we made it happen (yes, definitely - we're fully in control, ha), or she was just ready to stop ravaging my nipples of an evening. Happened in week 7, which is where I was at the end of tether, and she was old enough. Evolution or coincidence?

Fatpony we're at seven weeks and still sort of cluster feeding here- certainly she doesn't go for 2-3 hours between feeds, although she goes longer than she did, and sometimes she actually refuses a feed when offered (oh, frabjous day). A bath in the evening is still a distant dream though but it's all I want. I have noticed that she's more distractable, though. There are other things that will calm her now- like holding her over my shoulder or scrunching plastic bags by her ear- where it used to be that if she was grouching the only thing that would make her stop was boob. So I think there is maybe an end in sight?

Oh goodness fatpony I don't want you looking gaunt and ill!! Please add some chocolate to that biscuit diet of yours.

Clingy baby klaxon!! He goes to sleep, I leave the room, within minutes he starts wailing, I return and pick him up, cuddle him; he stops crying and goes to sleep.
Repeat.
Repeat.
Repeat etc
If I manage to empty the washing machine and put new linen on our bed before my hubbie comes home tonight, it will have been a good day.

At my wits end. Pregnant tried to put baby B down as much as your bub today & I've just ended up with a catnapping baby who is grumpy & a wrecked Mummy. I'm so close to giving him a bottle of formula tonight in attempt to get more sleep. Someone talk me out of it?

Wow miracle stuff that omeprazole. He had a grizzly afternoon yesterday so we upped his dose by another 0.5ml. Today he slept 3rd it's this morning, was awake from 11-3 and was a right happy chappy. We even cleaned the bathroom together! Our lovely neighbour came round for a hair cut and he puked all over her...several times! Luckily she's had 3 boys so she doesn't mind! He's now been asleep for an hour