October 2014 // thread 4 // a lot of night feed chatting!

[sazzlehopes]

Welcome everyone. You're doing a good job by the way. Remember that.

Wonder 5pm is usually the witching hour when babies get super fussy and colicky. Maybe Dr wants to see how little Moose acts then?

It sounds awful but i really hope hes in a full on rage :s

I feel your frustration wonder my gp's are not the best but just remember you know your child better than anyone and if something's not right then they should be listening to you !

Not seen binky post for a while? Is she on the facebook page? Hope all is well with her?

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I'm having an ugh BF day/week too. This morning he fed at 05.30, 06.30, wanted more at 8am so got 6oz of expressed out of the fridge. He guzzled that down and then had a breastfeed on top. I'm sure his face has got fatter today.

Was back at the docs today again for the 8 week will he follow the light/torch thing the doc holds? He had a screaming fit on Monday first time round, today was no better. As soon as the doc plonked him on the table thing he started crying, screwed his eyes up and wouldn't look. So now we have to go back again on Wed next week!

Urgh got our paeds referral letter today, 4th feb!! Like im waiting that long! (Can i take him to a&e just for reflux?)

Have just put him in his swingy chair to have some lunch and hes drooling like crazy with acid bubbles round his mouth, yawning his head off but refusing to sleep & having a fair old scream just to add to the guilt :(

Also have noticed behind his right ear it looks like the skin is peeling off!?! Its all red and gooey!

Moose yes, call your local ooh or 111 and tell them about him being sick in his sleep etc. Dylan was choking in his sleep a lot and it scared me a lot, gp wanted to make me wait another 3 days for an appointment and I wasn't having it anymore. How they think it's acceptable for babies to be in pain I have no idea!
Little monkey has been asleep for 4 hours...This is very unusual for him...my boobs will also tell you how unusual this is!

mrsb yay for sleep! I know what you mean tho, my boobs are harassed so much in the day that they go mental if i get a couple of hours sleep at night lol.
I think i'll give 111 a go this eve x

wondermoose13 - My DC3 got that ikky behind the ear thing when he was a baby. It's just when he brings up milk while lying down, if you don't clean it properly it goes red and 'peely'. The creases in the neck also get like this. You can get a cream from docs if it looks infected. Otherwise just keep clean and dry.

Also - you mentioned being sick in sleep. It's quite normal that some babies bring up milk and you notice in the morning by the wet patch in he cot next to baby's head. You don't necessarily need to worry about this. Many Mums use a muslin square under babys head to catch these so that you don't have to change covers so often (also develops the comfort blanket for when older).

Cheers fate i was starting to panic about his ear!

Off to gps in 15mins and hes asleep in my arms! Fml!!

Lazy bf day today here too, bit poorly after jabs I think. Poor boobs are all a bit confused as we are usually on 3 hrs between feeds during the day...

After nearly nine weeks I think daytime cluster feeding might finally be coming to an end Hurrah. We've had a sleepy day today, but even so she's been less clingy and has grouched for food far less often.

Splendide, I would wait until you're having a good day to decide about bf, but if even on a day when things are okay you think on balance you'd be happier without, then I say stop and do it without worrying. You being happy is really the most important thing.

I think you're right, I don't want to decide on a bad day. thanks x

Moose how did you get on at the docs?
Stigz Binky is OK, she was on the FB thread yesterday or day before anyway :)
I hope you ladies having crappy bf'ing days have a better evening tonight, I hated those kind of days, only thing to be done is indulge yourself in some way to keep yourself sane, be it chocolate, cheese or good/crappy TV. Sod the housework, it can wait! Those days don't last, they too shall pass, yadda yadda
Heidi has been a right grumbler this evening, overtired I think, thankfully she's napping now. I also had a horrendous time winding her earlier on - I remember being told that bf babies don't need to be winded as much?? so far that has only been true for night feeds for me!
I bought a baby monitor today, haven't even looked at the instructions yet, in denial at the prospect of needing to use it at some point maybe! I had never realised how quickly babies grow, week to week I still can't get over how much she changes amd develops and grows out of her clothes!

OMG just cleaned out dd1's toy room! .., if anyone buys her anymore cuddly toys i will not be happy, im so sentimental and dont like to throw anything away with a memory attached (which is basically everything) # spot the infant

P.s glad binky is ok kirstie

Stigz that's a great photo.

I appear to have a son that naps like my first ds. Tiny little cat naps in the day of about 20-40 mins tops...he loves to fight the sleep. Today I had to nip into town first thing and he just screamed the whole time in the buggy as I rushed around the shops with loads of dirty looks from people. Umm yes I can hear my baby screaming and no I dont want him to do that either. Stupid 'poor thing' comments. so unhelpful...he was just fighting sleep, I loathe busy bodies that think they know best.

Anyway on a better note he slept last night from 10pm to 4am!!! Bloody amazing! And at least he doesn't fight sleep at night...
I canceled the docs this morning his squeaky voice is better so I don't think it can be reflux acid damage?

Sazzle I feel your pain - that's been my two children as well. I was in a shop yesterday and baby woke up screaming (as he does because he doesn't actually want to be awake after just 20 mins sleep). Shopkeeper was saying 'what's wrong is he hungry?' I said 'no he's just tired' and she then had the audacity to lean over and put his dummy in his mouth - which he promptly spat out - before I could stop her, I so hate those looks you get when baby is screaming in pram. I found people to be so much more empathetic about crying toddler than baby - it's as if people think you're meant to be able to miraculously stop your baby crying.

Aw sazzle i feel your pain, my dd hates her car seat ! She basically screams till i get to my destination, but i suppose the general public doesnt judge me in my car! ... But if i seen a women marching by with a screaming baby in a pram i wouldnt be thinking "poor baby" i would honestly think "poor women"

Once when ds1 was crying around wilkos because he was tired, some little girl said to her mummy 'why is that baby crying mummy, is he tired?' And the mum replies 'no darling, he's just hungry'. I could have punched her. I said 'actually he is tired, your daughter is right. He's just fed and is now fighting his sleep'. Wish I had added somethjng about how dare she think she knows my baby, she's not met him before.

But.... Makes my blood boil when people interfere or question your parenting...!

Ah my little cherub likes to charm random strangers then fart/ poop VERY loudly. Then get wildly upset when she realises that her nappy got dirty. Everyone snoozing except me, I should definitely be asleep.

Since introducing the 'sleep from 7 - 10pm' thing, it's regressed into her sleeping only 3 or 4 hours after 10.30. Before this she was doing 6 hours as her longest sleep. Now it's basically feed at 10.30, 2 - 2.30, 5 - 5.30, then 7am. Fucking annoying. In order to get an evening/part of an evening, I lose sleep. How long until she adjusts?

Babies do just change their patterns goats. It's abnoying as you think it's sorted but then they do something new. There is a well known sleep regression at 4 months... So we are looking forward to that one in our house!! R is currently doing sleep / feed by 8pm, dream feed at 11/12 ish, 4am feed then 6/7. Didnt think we were doing the dream feed last night but I can see a bottle on the side. So dh must have decided to do one which I'm slightly concerned about as he was out last night - just hope not drinking too much. Words to be had in the morning

Fedup yes to pattern changing often just for shits and giggles! Goats was she clusterfeeding on an evening? It might be that she's replaced the loss of clusterfeeds with night feeding? Or that she's doing it to check in with you? Or just because

And Fedup four month sleep regression, sssshhhhhh. For a fortnight I remember weeping that I'd broken J as he went from doing a regular 6 hour stretch / irregular sleeping right through to being up every two hours. And then he was back to long stretches. Though admittedly never as long stretches / sleeping through fairly regularly as before the regression for another six months! Which I convinced myself for months was because he was teething - he didn't get a tooth til 11 months!

I am mentally preparing for the same this time. ha it'll still bite me on the ass

We're in a pretty stable pattern of 7.30 - 9.30 a couple of feeds / clusterfeed on a piggy night, snooze in my or DH's arms, up to bed with us 10 - 12 with another quick feed, then feed at 5-6 then up for the day at 8 - 9.30. I'm liking this pattern therefore I expect she'll change it rip it from my weeping bosom soon. There's not a great deal you can do to force a new pattern to 'stick' before 6 months and object permanence begins, bar a lot of crying which can make them less secure, and as a result quite often, worse sleepers in the long term.

Well we just got another 6 hours here! Still massive cluster feeding of an evening though. Frightened to change anything/ put him down earlier as id rather deal with the cluster feeding and have the sleep! I know it'll get worse again but the longer stretches recently have been restorative!