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October 2014 // thread 3 // Maybe we'll get some sleep soon.

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MundayCakes85 · 14/11/2014 09:48

Last thread is full so here's a shiny new one Grin

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YellowWellies · 23/11/2014 03:15

Sorehead if my baby was putting on 10+ oz a week, was regularly feeding despite being full, was feeding until sick, and was only happy and awake if feeding, was doing extended crying (i.e. 30+ minutes), individual feeds go on for hours, was sooking without proper swallowing, was growing fatter / out of sync with length I'd worry about comfort feeding.

On my last thread a baby comfort fed so much with reflux he was the weight of a 2 year old at 1 (he'd been putting on a lb a week for aaaaages), at 1 he finally got reflux meds / allergies sorted and weighs the same at 2 despite being much taller. He was so chubby he couldn't pull himself up to stand until nearly 18 months. He was reacting to peanuts, dairy and egg in his Mum's diet and has anaphylactic reaction to all three now - its a nightmare feeding him and going on holiday or eating out is terrifying. If these foods had been eliminated from breast milk earlier he wouldn't have comfort fed and these allergies might have remained intolerances he'd outgrow.

I was all preeny that Jonas, a teeny prem was putting on a lb a week but the paediatrician was like errr no he's in pain Blush . Before getting his reflux sorted a night feed would be 40+ minutes, after, it was 20 minutes. At his worst I got 2 episodes of Greys Anatomy in per feed. Sadly Dr McDreamy will now forever remind me of reflux / CMPI. Its a cruel condition Wink .

Littlefeet26 · 23/11/2014 03:16

fedup have you tried some white noise or a light? We've got a slumber buddy which works miracles when DS is just lying in his crib not showing any signs of sleep but isn't hungry. He kind of gets hypnotised by the lights and the repetitive music seems to send him drifting off. Drives us mad after 30 minutes mind but it's worth it if he'll go to sleep!

YellowWellies · 23/11/2014 03:22

Sorehead any of the symptoms of comfort feeding I mentioned can be totally normal for short periods during a growth spurt BTW but if it goes on longer than 10 days I'd be Hmm .

Missus2ndwife · 23/11/2014 04:21

CJ you have the tweed version? It's the most coveted version Wink I swear I won't tell your hubby how much it costs!! I was going to go in to the shop this week to buy my first but bought a 2nd hand Caboo instead. When bumboo is bigger we plan on getting or first Connecta.

Yellow ring up the shop with any queries. I've heard they are bad to respond via email as they're a small business.

If babies are making chocking or gagging sounds does that mean silent reflux? Definitely? I ask because bumboo makes very strange noises all the time and hope I'm not ignoring signs #badmother

fedupofrainydays · 23/11/2014 05:18

Bah, I don't lnow if reflux or not to be honest. But he doesn't do extended crying, I can comfort him so that's why I don't thknk It is reflox in our case. Surely if it was reflux he would be screaming the place down??

MundayCakes85 · 23/11/2014 05:35

Feeling for those with reflux/ colic issues, it must be awful to see your baby in pain. Flowers Hope you all had a peaceful nights sleep.
DD had a bit of a dicky tummy last night with a couple of green poos. At the in laws for the weekend so lots of people to see so think she's just a bit unsettled.
However just managed 5.5 hours between feeds and 4.5 hours sleep for me!!! Grin Oh and I've been googling Connecta carriers even though I already have an ergo and a wrap Smile

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Me23 · 23/11/2014 06:44

Omg v slept all night! From 10-5:15. So happy right now. At least something is going right have been weaning off Bp meds and can see my Bp is creeping up dr said lack of sleep causes high Bp so I think baby trying to help mummy out and get me healthy again. I still haven't used ergo yet baby is so sicky at the moment with reflux she just pukes almost all the time, don't want it puked on. But I want to use it I'm going to give it a go today and hope she doesn't puke.

ExcitedCJ · 23/11/2014 07:01

Regarding reflux - www.askdrsears.com/?s=Reflux+
The specialist I saw with DD reckoned colic was reflux & that over 2/3 of babies will suffer it to some extent. My DD was the severe screaming type & my DS is the grumbly, windy, no sleepy type. I took him off Losec for 2 weeks as he was so settled & he got progressively more grumbly with less sleep & more 'wind'. Put him back on Losec on Wednesday & by yesterday I had a happy baby that was easy to settle.
Missus I love my Harris Tweed, I bought it during a late night online shopping extravaganza when pregnant & unable to sleep. I had to have it delivered to my work so that DH didn't ask how much I paid!! Grin
Will try & post a pic of it later.

ExcitedCJ · 23/11/2014 07:05

Me I am so envious of your giant sleep!! Well done bubba Me.
We had a restless night as DS has an awful barking cough. Off to emergency doc this morning to get his chest listened to. Thank goodness for the cocoonababy or I would be seriously sleep deprived. He is currently sleeping on me as his cough is scaring me when I put him down. :(

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YellowWellies · 23/11/2014 07:56

Fed up it can be hard to tell, Jonas was consoleable with it until his throat was quick badly burnt - if in doubt I'd get it checked as the worst consequences are totally avoidable. The old view that they'll outgrow it is pretty mean given it can take 18+ months. That's a looooong time to listen to unnecessary distress. If the other symptoms fit - consider it.

We're having a four in a bed Sunday morning cuddle Smile

mrsb87 · 23/11/2014 08:34

Poor Dylan wouldn't take his bottle this morning, not sure why. He just had his knickers in such a twist only boob would do!
We are still in love with our caboo! I find it super easy for just popping him in and going out withe the dogs. If we're out and he's asleep in the car seat we pop Jim in the buggy, saves waking him up!

Pregnantagain7 · 23/11/2014 08:36

sorehead r is ff too. Quite often he will take a really good feed then a couple of minutes later he will be rooting like mad, he's not hungry and on the odd occasion he has taken a bit more milk it has resulted in a huge puke.
I think this time is tricky especially for ff babies because I think they are really looking for comfort and to suck to sooth themselves as so many of the people who are bfing have said about their babies using them as dummies. If you are ffing they don't really have this option unless you actually give them a dummy. I found all my babies were so much more settled once they could get their hands in their mouth.
In the evenings if he's struggling to settle I usually whip my top up and lie him on my chest and hold him really tight, he protests a bit at first but then relaxes. Also I second what yellow said about warmth,a big fluffy blanket works wonders!

I'm off out for a family lunch today for mine and dps birthdays. I feel like I need all my ducklings near me at the moment. My aunty has made the incredibly hard decision to withdraw all medication for my uncle. They did this last night at 7 so it's just a matter of time now the doctors think it will take a couple of days at the most such a horribly sad thing to happen :(

RudyTuesday · 23/11/2014 09:33

I think DS may be suffering from reflux. He does a lot of red faced arching during feeds and horrendous crying. It's worse in the evening if that means anything?

For those of you prescribed reflux medicine - Did anyone's GP do a test confirming reflux? Or was it a case of you simply listing the symptoms?

RudyTuesday · 23/11/2014 09:45

pregnant sorry to hear that, what an awful decision for your aunt to have to make. Flowers

pebble82 · 23/11/2014 10:25

So sorry for what you're going through pregnant.

Rudy I think if your DS isn't being sick it's more likely colic than reflux.That's what my DD has.

I'm contemplating life as a single mum today. OH played on his Xbox for 10 hours(!!) yesterday and then slept for 9 hours from midnight to 9am. He got up and made himself a drink (no offer for me) and got back in bed. By this stage DD had woken up so I asked if he'd do her nappy when I went for a wee before having to feed her. He did but made such a fuss about changing her and not being able to use the nappy bin I've bought so I had to go in anyway! Then when I'm feeding her he goes about putting a wash load on complaining that it should have been done before now. Also has a pop at me for the bedroom bin being full. At the sane time his mum rings to ask how he is and he says he's fine apart from being a bit tired!!! Yes gaming all day and sleeping all night really takes it out of you!! I then start to cry, fed up of him not recognising the million other things I have done and he asks me why I'm crying. Seriously had enough :'(

YellowWellies · 23/11/2014 10:46

Rudy silent reflux means there is no vomiting. A lot of colic is silent reflux, if it gets worse not better I'd go to the docs if you're worried.

Pebble is he normally more supportive? He could be one of those guys who is bored by newborns / is jealous of the attention baby is getting and might get better as baby gets more interactive, or he could just be a selfish git Envy . Sorry you are having such a tough time Thanks

Errrr2012 · 23/11/2014 10:47

Jesus pebble that's awful. Someone needs to have a word with him, having a newborn is most definitely a team effort. If he won't listen to you can you get his mum to kick him into touch?

sazzlehopes · 23/11/2014 11:04

yellow please don't be sorry. Nappies is one of those things I get super passionate about. I have to be am careful I don't bore others with it or seem like I'm being an Eco pusher!!!
me hooray for your mega sleep! we did better here too. Ned went 5 hours then 3 then 2 last night which was amazing.

pregnant so sorry about your uncle. Hope you have a nice meal.

pebble that is not on. Is he always that long playing games? Like even before the baby would he play for that long? I do get that some guys find it difficult and like yellow said gets jealous... But you need help. A newborn is hard blooming work. I think you need to tackle it, it's not ok to behave like that. Xx

sazzlehopes · 23/11/2014 11:06

And you guys with the SLINGS!!! Arghhh stop stop I have an ergo from last time and bought a wrap this time but massively lusting after those Nico ones now!!!! Damn you all!!!!

fatpony · 23/11/2014 11:21

Oh dear after reading about the connecta slings on here I am half thinking of a day trip to their shop in Godalming! I had already planned to ditch my close caboo as it hasn't worked for me - fiddly to put on and M will only sleep when I am in motion so no good for a coffee shop. I had 90% decided on the ergo carrier...but didn't realise you have to buy the 360 to let them forward face...

fatpony · 23/11/2014 11:23

The reflux thing is so worrying. I dread it happening. m made weird choking noises after the 3am feed but doesn't cry and seems to do it in his sleep. For the past seven days he has been spitting up about a tablespoon of sick after his feeds. But no other symptoms.

FATEdestiny · 23/11/2014 11:26

DD has screamed from 6pm through to 9 or 10pm every night pretty much from birth. Brilliant the rest of the time I should add.

All the symptoms to colic/reflux etc - red faced, inconsolable, bringing knees up, unable to breastfeed or get her to sleep. Nothing worked.

But I dismissed colic because I don't believe in colic Shock.

Always believed it is just a phase newborns go through and grow out of. Just feed and comfort through it. So having already eaten my own words, I tried infocol for a week. No help. Really ready to totally go back on my 'colic doesn't exist' belief I went to GP and got infant gavison. Hard to administer with a bottle refusing breastfeeder. Managed a tiny bit of one dose.

Then she hit 8 weeks and suddenly settles. This coincides with perseverance finally getting her to accept a dummy so she could stop so much comfort breastfeeding. This meant she could have more sizable feeds in the evening because she isn't sucking on me all the time. Better feeding = more content = settled sleep = no evening crying.

Now no symptoms of evening 'reflux', without any need for medical treatment.

sazzlehopes · 23/11/2014 11:27

Or connecta are lovely too. Scandi forest or plain black. fatpony I'm thinking day trip too to the shop! See you there!!

The whether they have reflux thing is so hard to judge. N is so much better now he's 7 weeks but I don't really know if it's because I'm now 4 weeks off the dairy or I've been tackling my oversupply issues... He seems less snuffly and doesn't puke always puke after feeds. I do have to keep him upright though still after he's fed and he's SO much happier sleeping on his front in the cot, that's made a huge difference.

tattyblue · 23/11/2014 12:14

Ada makes some weird choking noises sometimes after a night feed but since she's otherwise okay I think it's just one of those things. Well, okay apart from the ongoing wind horror which is waking her up and making her fuss, but it's really obviously wind as we can hear it and feel it (but can't get it out). Poor baby.