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October 2014 // thread 3 // Maybe we'll get some sleep soon.

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MundayCakes85 · 14/11/2014 09:48

Last thread is full so here's a shiny new one Grin

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puppythedog · 18/11/2014 13:28

I've found persevering through the strop when swaddling has helped. I often cuddle her into meekness, then swaddle and cuddle some more and if she dozes off she's more likely to stay that way.

Happytimes31 · 18/11/2014 13:31

Puppy - same here with swaddling. Thanks all for dummy thoughts, he is desperate to get his thumb in his mouth but can't yet and gets furious, swaddle and everything get sucked. Maybe I could do a dummy until the thumb bit happens, or might it not then happen?

mrsb87 · 18/11/2014 13:38

I would imagine if he has something to suck on and is settled he isn't likely to try and suck on his thumb too. But I'm no expert!

FATEdestiny · 18/11/2014 13:57

Contrary to others regarding dummies, I am desperate for DD to take a dummy. She's 7 weeks and I've tried soooo hard to get her to have one.

She is currently refusing both dummy and bottle (of expressed milk). The only means to settle her when she is crying is my boobs - which she uses for comfort sucking as well as feeding.

Whilst I secretly love don't mind being the only one who she needs when upset, it is impractical. I'd like her to have a dummy so that I don't have to whap a boob out every time she screams.

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ohthegoats · 18/11/2014 14:31

Our local waterbabies course is £160 for 11 lessons. Aaaargh. Will only do those though - after the 11 we'll just use the kids pool at our gym.

Pip won't take a dummy, we've tried for a fortnight, and are now pushing her thumb into her mouth - at the moment she uses her knuckles to suck on, but it sounds like she's eating them. Sort of a crunching noise - bit weird to hear to be honest.

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Happytimes31 · 18/11/2014 14:42

Thanks ladies, gosh our water babies is even more than that as the wretched underwater shoot thing seems to be included and not optional!

Sorehead · 18/11/2014 14:51

I want to take DS swimming with DH over Christmas, before taking him to an organised class (so DH can experience his first time in a pool too)....what will I need, and what do you do with your young babies in the pool? DS will be 9-10 weeks.

Sorry to hear there were so many bad nights last night.

DS is getting better at sleeping in his Moses basket- I'm dreading him growing out of it! His new trick is to cry pretty much constantly from 7pm-10pm and nothing seems to console him apart from milk, which resulted in him overeating and being sick last night.

tattyblue · 18/11/2014 15:07

Keep trying to go for a walk but baby won't. stop. eating. She's five weeks now, so I hope this is a early growth spurt and I won't have to do it all over again.

Littlefeet26 · 18/11/2014 15:29

Hi everyone, hope you don't mind me joining in, it's really nice to find a place where people are having similar experiences! Ds1 is 4 weeks on Friday and dh went back to work yesterday. Already feeling a bit overwhelmed on my own but hoping it will get better soon!

mrsb87 · 18/11/2014 15:49

Our water babies is £155 including the photo shoot. We're paying in 3 instalments. It is expensive but I think it's worth it as the instructors are highly trained and the pools are warmer for tiny ones. Can't wait to start :-D

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mrsb87 · 18/11/2014 16:16

Ugh every afternoon is the same at the moment. All he wants is boob. He falls asleep and I try and put him down. He wakes up and screams the house down.
I'm on the verge of joining him!

fatpony · 18/11/2014 16:19

For those who want to swaddle maybe have a little break and try again. M bust out of everything within minutes and the miracle blanket swaddle just made him join the outrage bus. It did contain him though. I gave up as got sick of living there hearing him fight it. At 5.5 weeks we tried again and no fight. Just accepts it now. Odd!

mrsb87 · 18/11/2014 16:20

I tried the carrier and all he did was cry in there too. Sad

ohthegoats · 18/11/2014 16:25

We have the screaming from about 5 or 6pm - about 9 or 10pm (only rarely later than that). We basically have to play MAJOR distraction. She's not hungry because she'll refuse boob, we just think she's bored. So, reading books to her, joggling her up and down, walking up and down the stairs with her over your shoulder, her in the bouncy chair on the kitchen units watching us wash up (this lasts about 3 - 4 minutes before she starts again), constant changing of position if she's on our laps, standing up on our laps, pushing herself around on the play mat (again, 3 - 4 minutes max), dancing with us to music, having a bath, having her nappy changed (she loves this for some reason, but there is only so long you can leave her on a changing mat), having the hairdryer moved over her, sitting on a beanbag while we hoover.

Basically if you're not expending calories in the name of her comfort, she's bored/uninterested in just sitting around or sleeping. The screaming time period has lessened over the last week or so, but that's just because we've worked out how to deal with her. We don't get to eat at the same time!!

Conversely she's slowly getting in to a pattern of waking up at around 7am, being fed and played with for an hour or so, then sleeping again until 10 - after that she's WIDE AWAKE for 4+ hours - but not unhappy, usually quite smiley and sunny - that's the most fun time with her. After that she'll usually sleep on me, or in a sling (so, on me), roughly until it's time for screaming!

I bought a 3.5 tog sleeping bag - the recommendation for clothes under it is nowhere near what I've been putting her down in. Poor thing has probably been freezing since the weather turned. Crap mum alert.

mrsb87 · 18/11/2014 16:34

He's great the rest of the time. I try pacifying him by rocking, singing, putting him in his carrier and wandering around the house.... also responsible and nothing stops him crying at the moment.
wouldn't mind the excessive feeding if 1, he didn't keep falling asleep or unlatching every 5 minutes or 2, fussing and wining!

MundayCakes85 · 18/11/2014 16:36

I can't wait to take Etta swimming with DH. Think we'll wait until after the 8 week jabs.
Had the HV here for a check up and E is 10lb 10oz at 5w2d!! She's put on 12oz in just under a week Shock
No wonder we're all knackered, but she had a good night last night for a change. We were all in bed before 11 so feeling good today.

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MundayCakes85 · 18/11/2014 16:40

Goats E is similar, needs us up and jiggling as soon as we get comfortable, and doesn't think we need to hear the last 5 mins of any decent programme.
She hates being restricted and likes nothing better than releasing her arms to twat herself in the face!!
Crazy babies Hmm

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Captainmcgraw · 18/11/2014 16:52

I just read that apparently 2 months is the peak for baby crying - after that it tends to decrease. Dare I believe this is true? DS 2 months on Sunday...

I'm not sure it was true for DD - I remember 3 months being particularly tough, but she definitely wasn't 'textbook'

ohthegoats · 18/11/2014 17:17

I read that 6 weeks is the peak. I'm assuming she's going to be a sunny delight 24/7 as of next Monday ;)

I tried to get on a Saturday class for swimming, so boyfriend could come too, but I've left it too late. My friend has been booked on our local Saturday one since early August. I booked today, we start Friday.

Captainmcgraw · 18/11/2014 17:24

Oh crap, well he's 8 weeks so let's hope he read what I did and not what you did Goats! Wink

Sorehead · 18/11/2014 18:20

bump- not sure how you coped until 4am DS would have been put in the wheelie bin. I keep threatening him with that but he doesn't listen Hopefully your night will be much better tonight- if things are fair, you had a double dose last night so should have no crying tonight!

goats- that sounds like DS. On Sunday I was dancing round the living room with him to Strictly Come Dancing from Saturday, then had to look through my phone for appropriate dancing songs. It was more exercise than I've done in a while at least 9 months so I had a sore back yesterday and so tried to soothe him with a more sedentary technique!

Think he's trying to help me lose baby weight by crying whenever I try to eat then encouraging me to exercise for 3-4 hours a day!

I hope DS got the memo about 6 weeks and not 8 weeks!

munday- that's good weight gain for Etta! :) hope that was a growth spurt and you now continue to have good nights!

If DS is taking a bottle during his crying spells, could there be an element of hunger there? Or if he was sick after it (decent amount of sick) does it sound like comfort feeding? Don't want to over feed him!

fedupofrainydays · 18/11/2014 19:08

Just discovered 'say yes to the dress'....