October 2006

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Am I the first one here or have I completely missed the thread? If this is the only thread please come and join me
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purpelace I know 2 adults, both from the same family, who are tongue tied and the only thing it stops them doing is sticking their tongue out. Theyve never had any problems eating or speaking. In fact its more of a problem getting them to shut up!!

hi all

i get the blubs too. for no reason at all, which is stupid. i think that it has to be sleep deprivision.

bendy - love your ds's name

everybody seems to have routines set already. is it just me that is doing things by ear? i cant seem to get into one yet

Wuzzle: don't worry about a routine yet - I tried to get into one too early and just made myself depressed. Go by your baby at the moment, and a pattern will emerge eventually. I hope so anyway! We're just settling into a bit of a routine at 5 weeks.

Sleep deprivation is awful and makes me v weepy but also incredibly absent minded and even clumsier than normal. DS slept for 4 hrs straight last night - a record - so am crossing fingers for tonight. He's been screaming off and on most of the afternoon though

Dec meet up sounds great. London would be good for me - no preferences apart from changing facilities. Is there a cafe in John Lewis?

no routine here - other than routinely feed ds2 when he wakes up! Had a bad night sleep wise last night and ended up blubbing this morning. Didn't help that as soon as I got ds2 settled (at about 5:30 am), ds1 had a nightmare and I ended up sleeping with him - didn't mean to, just dropped off!

Went to a brestfeeding drop in help place today, they were very helpful, but it is remembering it all at 2 in the morning with a crying baby chomping at your nips! It has been better on my right boob today, but I am still taking it one day at a time. They were very helpful as someone was asking about stopping and they were full of useful information, and not at all 'thou shall breast feed', which is good. And they had pink wafer biscuits!

Re bleeding - it has all but stopped, but still getting an occasional spot, so not without pads at the mo.

DH is at home this week which is lovely, but reality will hit me next week, I'm sure! DS1 had a tongue tie which we didn't get sorted out (we didn't realise until he was about 6 months old), and he has not speech problems at all.

am up for a London meet up - can only suggest somewhere in Canary Wharf - all shops/cafes are underground, lift access from tube platform, loos and baby changing - very often see groups of ladies and babies meeting up. I do confess to only living a 15 min bus ride away though. Am happy to travel further than that!

hey every1,
thanks wuzz. I haven't got a routine yet either, not sure when ur meant 2 start getting into 1 really?!

2day has gone really well, I was worried if I'd cope on my own but its been fine, I'm just so glad he's so good, I hope it lasts!

Im sittinghere with a smile on my face watching my little one in his chair. I had an over the pram toy for ds3 and have clipped it over lo's chair and hes loving it. Not sure how much he can see of it though but hes having a real good go at looking at it. Its got a little musical snail on it that plays twinkle twinkle and ds3 keeps pressing it for him. Ah bless

Congratulatins Emily & youngmum. Emily - can't believe baby was so big & still no stitches! Waterbirth was good glad I had it but still loads of stitches. Daniel is doing well - mostly sleeping & feeding at the moment - when do they start waking up a bit more - I can't remember. I can do a London meet up but don't have any suggestions to where.

Hello

First time on the post natal thread. DS is so sweet. all he does is eat and sleep. If he is awake is hungry (breast feeding so hopefully I shall be skinny skinny soon). The only stress I'm having is 3yo DD. Nothing out of the ordinary just her usual tricks but harder to cope with when there's another one to look after. DH went back to work yesterday so I've only really had two days of it!!!!!
No routine here. I don't think I had one with DD till about 3 months - just go with the flow, don't get hung up about what you think you should be doing.

Oh no, lo has been really sleepy all day today so i'm prepraing for a rough night unless he is having a growth spurt?

Same here, nicand2. I also wondered about growth spurt. He's not feeding particularly more frequently, but he sleeps like a log between feeds. Excluding feeds, he's only been awake for about 2h total today! But so contented and gurgley during those awake times lovely.

Any advice from you experienced people out there? Molly who is 3 wasn't breastfed due to horrific post-natal ward experience that had me bleeding and with green nipples within 24 hours of delivery.

I've really decided to give it a go with Fat Zach. Tomorrow is day 4. Milk is now well in. I've managed to get him to do three feeds, 20 mins each and feel pleased. But he won't latch on every time he is hungry. He does this huge song and dance thing.

I have to calm him, present, calm, present and sometimes he goes into full on paddy mode and only a few spoons of SMA calms him down again.

It dents my confidence. He's got jaundice and obv very hungry but my milk is in now, we've managed feeds together. I just wish he'd do it everytime.

I am also getting sore now and got a blister on one nipple. Anyone got any suggestions.

Emily, don't get discouraged - this is the hardest time, IME, and bfing gets easier!

I suggest that you start a thread in the Breast and Bottlefeeding section - cut and paste your post into it. There is a marvelous breastfeedign counsellor called Tiktok who posts on MN and she weill see your post and respond. There are others with good advice too.

Also, call the NCT Breastfeeding Line (must dash to help dh with ds2, else I would look it up, but you'll get it quickly from Google). I don't know whether they still have the option that cuts out all the waiting and puts you through quickly ("If you need to speak to a BFC now"), but if they do then press it. I'm not implying that there's any urgent problem, but at 4 days you don't need to wait for help!

There are other agencies as weell - La Leche League, Breastfeeding Network (BfN), Association of Breastfeedign Mothers - some of whom may be able to send a counsellor to see you in your home. Face-t-face advice is often the best thing. BfN counsellor came to my house on day 3 or 4, when I had disgustingly scabby nipples and knew this wasn't right, and within 24h my nipples were almost 100% OK.

HTH - must dash.

Emily,i find swaddling Lexie and feeding lieing on my side helps.She latches on better if im on my side and if she is swaddled i dont have arms to wrestle with and she is much calmer,she gets cross sometimes if she cant get on and her arms start windmilling,the rugby hold is also gd for that though.NCT breastfeed counseller came to visit when my baby was 2 days old,give them a call,they v,helpful.

emily, me and dd cried through pretty much every feed for first 4-5 days. blisters and bleeding . i kept dreaming of sma. however, i had great help from mw's who made me tickle the bit between mouth and nose to get her to open her mouth wide and then shoved big handful of breast in. swaddling works well too to stop arm wrestling. also catching them just as they start to get mildly hungry rather than roaring starving. with blisters apparently the best is to feed through the pain as they suck them off-yuck plus ow but it worked or try rugby ball hold. best of all try to keep breathing through the tears and remember you're doing brilliantly
we had a decent night after i dragged dd to dr's and persuaded them to give us gaviscon for her reflux-hoorah! it seems to really help, no longer have 1 hr sessions trying to get her to settle after feed.
and yes, we caved in on a dummy the night we came home from hospital in desperation-wouldn't go anywhere without now, need all the help i can get...
am up for london meet up as well. we could go to john lewis or peter jones. they have good bf and changing facilities and a cafe. don't know if that's any good though.

Good morning ladies.Had a crap night again. Cant believe lo went 4 hourly yesterday with a little help from his dummie and last night was just rubbish. Got him ready for bed at 8.30. Fed hhim till about 9.10 where he was sound asleep. Put him in his basket and settled to watch tv. But from about 9.30 to 11.30 he was crying and wouldnt settle at all. I burped him loads of times. Changed his bum. Even his dummie wasnt doing it for him. Ended up giving him more boob after which he was a bit sick and settled to sleep. Seriously thinking of buying some formula now. Oh and those of you feeling guilty about using a dummie as I am I was on a thread about ffeeding and one of the ladies put a link on about dummies safe guarding against SIDS. Aparantly keeping the wind pipe open as baby sucks and because most have the bit on the front it stops baby being smothered if a blanket goes on their face. So I feel totaly different about them now.Sorry for long post but thought Id share this with you. xx

Is anyone clever or awake enough to do a post natal list of all of us and our new arrivals on here? Or am I pushing my luck

Gingema,there is a thread aimed at you on the breast feed site,have you seen it? just some ladies offering advice

No I havnt but Ill have alook when I get the chance. Thanks

Thanks all for comments on tongue tie and blubbing - you are right and need to just chill about it. he is doing really well on the whole.

Emily - am on day 13 and bf is still not painfree but if you can make it few the next few days you can do it as they are hardest.

My tips this time (last time got mastitis and cracked nips v painful) are invest in the lanisoh cream - v expensive but I think you would only ever need one tube. Also - you can now take ibuprofen which I personally find more pain relieving than paracetamol and may take the edge off the painful latch on. another possibly contentious one that worked for me on both babies - you could also use nipple shields to protect you for 24 hrswhile you are very tender

The fussing to latch could be engorgement and expressing a bit helps me still as it gives them more to go at and difficult though it is, try to relax as when I am tense through pain I think it slows my let down which makes lo pull off.

All in all, feel very proud of yourself for bf at all as although it may be natural, it def doesn't come naturally for many of us to start with!

Good luck.

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Wow a lovely ladie started a thread for me on breast feeding. I feel much more at peace with it all now. Think Ill persevere a bit longer for now. She said it takes about 6 weeks to establish some sort of routine with it all. lo is only 3 weeks now so Ill carry on. I bought some nursing bras from Marks and Spencers last week with some vouchers Id won. They have to be the most uncomfortable bras Ive ever bought. So glad I didnt actualy pay for them! Gonna go to Mothercare on Saturday and see what theyve got. Got last lot from there so Ill stick with those for now. Well lo's awake for his feed now. Catch you ladies later. xx

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Thats a good idea millee. I hate wearing a bra at night and I dont leak that much. Mmm might try that. Thanks

Emily:have you tried feeding while you're both in a warm bath? Also skin-to-skin contact in bed can be soothing - strip Lo down to the nappy and stick under duvet (not the head of course!)

Gingeme: sorry to hear you're having problems with the bfing - if he's going mad at 3 weeks it could be a growth spurt, Feeding more is common but so is being v grumpy (baby not you ) - link here

Off to cinema tomorrow - parent and baby screening. Can't remember what the film is though. Sounds like a great way of getting out of the house.
Wishing you all a peaceful night (W contented so far...)

emily ds tends to struggle to latch on sometimes when my boobs are extra full. If that is the case you could express a bit off before feeding?
It does get easier. I had bleeding, cracked nipples in the first week and the cream purpleluce mentioned really helped. Also had mastitus which was horrible, but managed to feed through it and now am having no problems at all. Got the midwife to check how I was latching him on and had been doing it a bit wrong. In my case needed to pull him in closer to me when latching on and support his head more. It is worth asking a midwife/breastfeeding advisor to check for you.

clon-DS is constantly sick but hv not worried as he is putting on weight, so unless they are losing weight i assume it is ok.

am really enjoying going to the mum and baby groups again.

Can i ask if anyone else who had babies a month or so ago is still bleeding? ds is 4.5 weeks and whenever i push the buggy my bleeding starts again (but only slightly) Not sure if I should go to GP or if it is normal. Did not bleed this long last time, but then DH was off work for a month and I didn't have a three year old to run around after.

john lewis could be a good idea but bit scared of all the christmas shoppers. brighton was bad enough today!