December 2012 - 2nd birthday party chat? Already?!

[PurplePidjin]

Here we are

hales is she ok? It's def a cruel to be kind situation.
frazzled it's no different surely to the fact that T still has boob. She doesn't get it at bedtime but does at 5.45 in an attempt to resettle and then at 3.30 and 4.15 and 4.45 last night! If that continues we will be going cold turkey!!

No idea. He's been playing in his cot for an hour now, refusing to sleep despite clear signs of exhaustion but not upset so I'm leaving him just so I can have some down time. I've had the beginnings of a cold for nigh on a week now, so tether's end is rapidly approaching.

WL i took her to the HV to get her weighed and asked for help with getting her to sleep for longer periods of the night. They asked how much she was eating as weight was off the charts again. So i explained she barely eats but has lots of milk and that we tried to stop the milk for a week and only gave her it at bedtime but she still barely ate so we made the decision to let her still have as much milk as she wanted. She thinks her feeding and lack of sleep are connected that H is waking up due to feeling hungry.

When H was born she was born with that thing some pregnant women get were the muscles in the stomach are separated so that when she sits up the middle of her stomach comes out like a triangle. I got told this would go as she started to crawl and walk and it looks still the same. So i asked the HV would that have an affect on H's eating. So she asked me to take H to the Drs to rule out a medical reason for it. So the GP said our plan of action was blood tests then if nothing shows on them to send H to a Peadiatric Consultant as they would of hoped to see a small improvement in H's stomach muscles by now.

So her blood tests were today and we'll see what happens from here.

Wow sorry for that mammoth explaination.

Fingers crossed, Hales. Cutting the milk right down to only bedtime seems quite drastic, or was it a gradual process? My only experience is R cutting down the bf which looking back happened over the course of about 9 months

Silence for the last 10 minutes I've never known him take this long to settle for a nap, at least not since he fed to sleep for them! I was fully expectiing to just go in to a wakey baby at 1:30 and deal with the hysterical overtiredness later

it was quite drastic tbh Pidj we were just trying our best to get her to eat anything more than 2 mouthfuls of her food. It didn't make her eat anymore though we did swop her day time bottles and the rest of her night time ones to water though. Apparently my uncle only drank Milk till he was 3 and refused all other foods/drink other than the occasional bowl of Cornflakes. I did explain to the GP that certain things she will eat quite abit of i.e blueberries/strawberries

Sorry posted to soon. So she will eat them and she quite likes noodles. But again has to be in the mood. We will see what happens, i think it will all come back clear tbh. I just think she is like my uncle was. Also my mum said all i ate till i was 2 was spagetti hoops and strawberry yogurt. But the HV knows thought this was the best route to take.

Fx hales

With bf, it's recommended (sp? that looks wrong!) to drop gradually, maybe you could mimic that rather than going cold turkey? TBH milk is pretty good nutrient-wise but lumpy foods are good for stuff like jaw and oesophagal development which are important for talking. If you want to, list what she does like and maybe we can think of some stuff that's similar so you can gradually stretch her range? or tell me to piss off because I'm interfering just bloody grateful and slightly shocked he's still a-bloody-sleep

R has always liked cauliflower cheese with soup-pasta in as a comfort food. I think it's because when he's ill/teething he only wants certain textures and that one's like yoghurt, which is another fail-safe food! Whereas the slightest hint of things not right and he rejects anything with a rough texture - mince, rice or cous cous without some kind of mash or sauce mixed in are the main ones - even though he likes "big" lumps chips and biscuits

I am always up for suggestions Pidj, its not getting her to eat foods as she likes all food but just doesn't eat much of it, two mouthfuls and shes done. She doesn't like cheese though, unless its disguised in lasagne or cauliflower cheese. I can get her to eat slightly more of anything chinese, but i always think thats because its my tea after work rather than she actually enjoys tea. Although if she hasn't eaten for days which is a regular occurance, i can always tempt her with chicken and noodle soup or special chow mein.If anyone had a suggestion on how to get her to eat more of it i would be grateful.

Your right though Pidj we should have dropped it down slowly which we did when she swopped from BF to FF and we also tried when we started the weaning process it just didn't work. So drastic action it was although that didn't work either

I joined H on her nap today i was exhausted after last night. I was out in my back garden in the pouring down rain at 3:30 as the wind had tipped her house over and i was scared the table and chairs would cause alot of damage.

Put 5 spice and garlic in everything?

Do you eat together? R eats with us apart from dinner (I'm not ready for mine at 4:15 even on work nights!) but we do sit up to table and I'll have a cup of tea while he eats. I've got several friends who we have lunch with because they say their child eats better in company and R does love his food

When I was encouraging R to drop boob feeds, the advice was to offer a snack and drink first then boob if they insisted. You could offer a rice cake/biscuit and just a couple of oz of milk in a sippy cup rather than bottle and see how that goes? Keep the sleep-time ones for now, you need your rest too

R still sparko, hurrah! It'll be interesting to see if he still wants his bed at 5:30 - previous experience says he will, but it's been several months since he slept this late so might have changed

Wow hales hope you get some answers, must be so frustrating.

The weather here is miserable. Went to a friends this morning and a DPD van reversed into her house right in front of us then drove off!! Completely broke her guttering, good job it was there or he would have hit the window!

Yes we all eat together, unless i'm in work then its just DP and H. I will give the 5 spice a try and report the results.

Spotty thats awful, did either of you manage to get the license plate number?

Pidj, my experience is usually the opposite H stays up as late as possible as she is a sleep refuser, so later naps give her that bit longer. I hope R goes to bed at the normal time though.

Yes we did (but we got one letter wrong!) police came round and they phoned DPD. He had a massive dent in his van so can hardly deny it what a nob.

Thats shocking, he was probably hoping no-one was home.

hales not sure if you want to go down this route, but I can get DS to eat if I sit him down with a distraction. He eats great in the ikea cafe for example, or at home with Peppa pig playing on the iPhone. I think it's because of that distracted eating thing. There was a bbc article on it recently suggesting parents use it to get their teens to eat carrot sticks instead of crisps in front of the tv.
There are times obviously when he's just not hungry and won't eat. It's generally worth a go if he's not eaten well for a while. Also, "dip dip" tomato ketchup (or similar) works well too.

I think DS has had a virus. Miserable and temp of high 38's. He laid down on the carpet yesterday and fell asleep. He's never been one to fall asleep anywhere but bed or car, so very out of character. Poor wee man.

We have boundary pushing and control issues here too. Everything has to be his idea, or its a screamathon. I'm managing to manipulate most things into being his idea, but it takes ages!

Stacks we've tried that even sitting infront of the tv watching Peppa it works but only with maybe 2 more mouthfuls.

Poor T i hope he's better soon. Its awful for them and you when their ill

spotty how scary! glad everything is ok though

r watches tv at dinner time, it goes off if he messes around! he then has to eat nicely to earn it back that would probably put h right off though

he's doing sleepy signs and has demolished 3 fish fingers and a pile of mash and Vegas plus his gingerbread man (see fb) so fx...

Loving the mash and Vegas pidj
I resorted to tv to get T to eat her tea tonight as she was getting in a state about boob. I'm plucking up courage to go cold turkey - sadly I know it's the only way with T and we're right back to her after it all the time.
stacks hope ds is better soon. We've all had a cold that has lasted weeks but I managed a run today and so feel loads better.
I would also like to tell you how proud of myself I am - I caught and threw out a truly mahoosive spider this morning. I used to get paralysed with fear and all sweaty etc.
spotty that sounds terrifying. Glad you got him.

Well done WL. I would be proud of myself to if i'd had a fear of spiders thay was that bad.

Pidj How was R last night?

My niece stayed over last night for the 1st time ever i was alone overnight with them both. I managed to get them both to sleep at the same time

Woohoo i decided on H's birthday presents last night. I'm going to buy her a desk and one of those teddy's that light up and project stars onto the ceiling. I was thrilled to see on the Christmas thread that they teddy is £11.99 woohoo bargain

Stupid phone autocorrect fail! Although there's something rather exotic about mash and Vegas rather than boring old veg. I shall make the effort to type sweetcorn next time though :o

WL you're right to be proud, I don't mind spiders but still have to do the glass/postcard thing

hales you should also be very proud, my friend with twins says the Holy Grail is getting both to sleep at the same time

R went down at 5:45, had one nappy change around 7:30 then was chatting to himself around 5:30 before getting up just before 7. So pretty civilised. He's gone down well for his nap this morning, so hoping he'll catch up with a big one now and sleep better for it tonight. He's one of those where sleep breeds sleep iyswim?

R is getting a toy kitchen if I ever get round to finishing it and if anyone wants to know what to get him, I'll ask for food and utensils to go with (SIL and I always ask each other for suggestions, so this isn't grabby or owt) Ikea have some lovely things and Sainsbury's have had their stuff reduced my Mum seems to have bought most of that already all for £5-10 for quite a decent amount of stuff.

Just got in from work got my flu jab this morning. Have a horrible cold, ds is crying and holding his willy and I think dd has another chest infection coming. She still went to school though will see how she is this afternoon.

Ds is getting a Henry Hoover for his birthday.

Oh dear Spotty. Hope you're all better soon.

A is getting a farm for his birthday and a car mat and cars for Christmas. Must stop buying extra cars and animals...

Yesterday trains were awful, so I came home an hour early. Sat across the aisle from Michael Rosen, who spent the journey happily chatting to my colleague. A very nice, personable man.

Today the trains were awful! Stuck in an all day meeting so couldn't come home early. Luckily it's the penultimate half day of settling DD at school, so DH was home for the school run.