November 2012 - Roll call!

[StuntNun]

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[ChasingDaisy]

Evening

I have had a very indulgent, relaxing weekend. Much needed. Am now awaiting the arrival of pilot for our third date. Having a film night

[GTbaby]

Related to my previous comment. At a party last Sunday a guest commented on H's speech. How it was limited. She owns a nursery so I guess is kinda qualified to comment. She did say boys are slower and that we should speak to him in full sentences.

I have been thinking I sound like that mum mentioned earlier. Just says no? I use language he knows.
So I say "water?" Rather then "would you like some water" need to be more aware of it.

Pr sounds like fun. I'm looking forward to doing things like that. Theme parks cinema etc.

First settling in session at nursery. We are going in for snack time. I've picked out his outfit. Just need to order his back pack.

[GTbaby]

Oh she made the comment to my sister... Who only told me when I spoke about H's limited vocabulary and to make sure we are all using full sentences.

[YellowWellies]

GT you're right talk to him normally in full sentences - he'll pick up the words he knows. And I'm sure you're not like this Mum - her DD is a teeny bit slower language wise than other girls but she is telling her kid off for it as if its deliberate naughtiness yet rarely talks to her in any detail other than to say "no" or "you dare". Her kid also flinches and sits still for ages because her Mum yells at her to stay like a dog. The flinching makes me think she's scared of her Mum as if she's been smacked. So you really aren't like her I promise. The other Haggis Mums will attest I wish J would sit still for five fooking seconds but I don't think its normal at this age, or is he ADHD?

[Rowingdowntheriver]

Your day sounds fun pr. i've not taken my boys to a theme park yet despite living only a few miles from a big one. Might try it some point this summer.

wanda, I'm terrible at menu planning as have no imagination when deciding on food for visitors. Maybe a bbq if it is sunny? Or I would have suggested nigellas coq au reisling which I made recently and liked but you are having chicken the day before so probably not that.

Any what are YBU about?!

gt, L says very very little. I've been told by HV not to worry, especially if he understands when you speak to him. Nursery rhymes are supposed to be good for helping speech though so I've bought a cd of them for the car.

[Rowingdowntheriver]

yw you have my sympathies - L is the same, he doesn't know how to sit still! He has no interest in tv yet as can't bring himself to stop moving long enough to watch it. He's exhausting!

My mum admitted to me the other day that she used to worry that I was hyperactive as a child as I was the same (I'm not hyperactive but I suppose I do like to be busy doing stuff). Maybe he gets it from me?

[PetiteRaleuse]

Oh. We lost LO's favourite soft toy twice today. The first time we retraced our steps and someone had picked it up and placed it very visibly on a bench. When we lost it again a half hour later we gave up hope, looked everywhere... And someone had handed it in to the ticket office so we got it as we were leaving. Two random acts of kindness which gave us all a real lift.

[ValiumQueen]

How nice PR

I too want to know what YABU about Wanda.

YW don't be daft. He is perfectly wonderfully normal and so are you for worrying. Same applies to you GT.

[ValiumQueen]

End of day 3 of fruit fast and I want to continue. I have not felt hungry at all and am amazed how good I do feel. A bit light headed, random sweats, but headache is gone so I am cured of my caffeine addiction thank fuck.

[Elizadoesdolittle]

Hello new thread. Quick check in. Had a fab weekend at a wedding in Wales. Both girls were brilliantly behaved and got lots of compliments. They did me proud. Am shattered now so going for a nice long bath and will catch up on thread later.

[YellowWellies]

VQ good for you! I'm utterly addicted to dairy filled junk after only being back on it for 12 weeks. If I have to go dairy free again with baby no.2 it can only be a good thing.

Wanda I can't imagine you ever being U. Go on fess up.

PR I love those little acts of kindness . They totally restore your faith in humanity.

We've been kinda guilt tripped into a flying visit down south to see the ILs before the baby arrives . So we're spending £350 on flights for a long weekend down there at the start of August when I'll be 28 weeks. If I go into prem labour there will be oh so many catty "I fookin told you sos" from me. DFIL has Parkinson's and his weight has ballooned to over 20 stone so its difficult for them to travel to us as DMIL finds him too heavy to push in his wheelchair but heavily pregnant with a toddler won't exactly be shits and giggles either

[BigPigLittlePig]

Great to hear S has turned a corner, Zamboni. What a relief. I hope you enjoyed your me-time, even if it was spent tidying which sounds like an amazing way to spend the afternoon

GT I am sure H is doing just fine - remember he has 2 languages, ao may not have heaps in one, but combined he's probably chattier than F. I rabbit on to F aaaaall the time, but then am a chatterbox so to be expected

F will sit still, and gets engrossed in stuff - but on her terms. Woe betide the fool who tries to her to sit when she has another agenda!

Talking of F (and sorry to witter on about illness) - she hasn't eaten all day (fine, she has reserves), has had fevers well above 38 within hours of having calpol, and has 3 tiny little spots in her nappy line. Well, below belly button, on tummy, but into nappy territory iyswim? 1 is v blistery looking, 2 aren't so much, and they are small. Could it be the beginnings of pox? I suppose we will know by the morning.

[PetiteRaleuse]

I don't think toddlers this age can be expected to sit still for very long unless they are engrossed in something. My two have usually been good at sitting still to eat but other than that I don't really try and make them stay still for long. They have to sit in class room situations for short periods of time at nursery and I believe they both enjoy that (while occupied of course) but in your Haggis meet situation they'd have been all over the place. I seem to remember that when I was that age there was nothing worse than having to sit and listen to grown ups chat :o I'm quite strict in restaurants. They have to stay at table until we have finished but if an order is slow to come to table then we take it in turns to walk them round a bit. Then we use ice cream as a bribe if they get restless.

Hope F doesn't have the pox. Both mine started to get spotty nappy rash at this age - LO has just started - I assume because they move about more so it rubs. Fx anyway.

[YellowWellies]

That's what I'd hoped. Don't get me wrong leading Mummy a merry dance round IKEA cafe was just hilarity to J but I thought it might be expecting a lot to think he'd sit for an hour. He'll sit for ages with a book (even on his own) if in the mood but not somewhere new to explore and I'm loathe to knock that inquisitiveness out of him.

Dog trainer Mum at toddlers expects her DD to sit, still whilst the snack is made, served, eaten and cleared away. The other kids just sit and eat nicely when its ready. Her kid is made to sit easily 20 minutes longer just because she says so - its a weird dominance thing maybe?

[ValiumQueen]

Time will tell BP.

And sorry Zamboni, I too am delighted S has turned a corner

Thank you YW. I have been dairy free for 3 days! I did not think it possible I recommend it if you do need to go dairy free again. It is a great way to withdraw off things as you are mega-dosed with goodness.

I am never drinking coffee again. Or energy drinks. Or fizzy of any sort. Please slap me very hard if I do. I will partake in the old bit of alcohol occasionally. As for food stuffs, we have all been dairy free for the last three days and the kids have not noticed. DH wants to go veggie, and we have all been meat free also. This will not last as I need to research how to feed young, and not so young bodies well, but we are never going back to how we have eaten since J took poorly. Yes, I blame him entirely as it has been all about survival.

He is a bit out of sorts today. Vommed after gulping a carton of apple juice, and it was on a burp. He has picked at his food and had an evil nappy. Hopefully he will sleep well. Hopefully he will not vom overnight, especially not in my bed.

[Kyz]

Evening all! Hello new fred, and any lurkers and everyone else

Missed the end of the last fred, but will keep up with this one or that's the plan! E has been hard work today but he's barely eaten so it's probably teefs

No tips on the nursery thing chasing but much good luck :)

pass I am thinking E will never drop his bottle on his own, he still has the bed time one and I am unsure as to whether to try to get him to take it in a cup or just leave him to it and see if he'll drop it on his own.

Aww yw E loves our chooks (well, they're mums now) there's only four ladies left but we used to have 27 including 6 lovely ex-batt ladies.

E doesn't do sentences, really. The odd see you later or all gone but other than that nothing. He does say lots of individual words though, I couldn't tell you how many bad mummy but lots

hope you have a fab holiday Stunt

gt i'm sure i've read that it can take them longer to start talking when there's more than one language floating about usually, i know there are exceptions i am sure H is doing fab :) If you have noticed you don't always speak in full sentences then perhaps that will help a bit :) It'll help him pick up new words as well as those he already knows. Hope the nusrsery session goes ok :)

oh no bp and vq hope both quichelettes are ok soon.

Brill that S is getting better zamboni hope it's all on the up from here!

hope you have a lovely time with your mum digger

vq what is this juice fast of which you speak? I have a serious caffeine addiction and thought I had no hopes of curing it but I wonder if said juice thingy would work

BP E regularly convinces himself cats can play fetch. Regularly he is let down. He will not learn! and GRRRRR at your dh. The PITA!

ooh Wanda hope you have a lovely time with your guests visiting! Summery, I might like a nice stir fry or something. Like batons of courgette and carrot and babycorn and spring onion and pepper and things, and strips of meat (i guess it depends on the sauce as to what meat you'd go for) in a nice sauce, with some fluffy rice. I am rubbish at food stuff though!

Ooh brill pr I adore theme parks, we'll be taking e next week when we take him camping (well, i guess it's the week after, really). I do wonder what he might make of it as he loves being thrown about but is very nonplussed about the park, swings and slides really do nothing for him!

chasing have a good film-night with your pilot-date. Sounds very promising, all this ;)

wanda what do you think you are bu about?

aww pr tis great LO's toy wasn't lost forever. I do love random acts of kindness, they make me remember the world isn't always bad.

sounds like a fab weekend eliza

E sits still on his own terms. Sometimes, like this afternoon, he goes from thing to thing doing anything he shouldn't and completely ignoring every word I say. He is impossible when he is like this and I have given up telling him no, it would be an endless stream of no, and I just move him away. I am not sure what else to do when he's like that. I admit to also wondering if he has adhd/similar with how he can be sometimes. Other times, like this morning, I can prepare an entire meal in the kitchen, sticking my head around the door when it's quiet, expecting him to be up to no good and actually he's just sat quietly, playing.

YW no, shan't be much fun I would imagine! Hope it's an ok weekend though and there's no prem labour involved!!!

[Pikz]

Kyz thank god for your summaries

Have Afrikaans staying so manic here

We have just swapped L to a cup a he is slowly dropping all his bedtime milk.

Another month and another non successful getting preggers month. Not sure how long I should wait before going to docs.

Big hugs to all

[PetiteRaleuse]

That sounds great vq I have to admit am not a big caffeine drinker except energy drinks the odd morning when insomnia gets the better of me. Never tea or coffe and coke is an occasional treat nowadays. Sugar is my current vice. Naughty processed sugar, not lovely fruity sugar. Hope J doesn't vom in your bed. There's nothing quite like being woken up by toddler spew. DD1 also went through random vomming stages from about 20-30 months. LO occasionally pukes if she is constipated and strains too hard.

yw she does sound very old fashioned. And I'd agree it would seem to stifle natural curiosity at such an inquisitive age. They have years of sitting stillin classrooms ahead, so although they do need to learn to sit still and listen I think it far too much to expect them to do so now with nothing in it for them. Any age actually - would a lecture room full of uni students sit in silence if their lecturer was 20 minutes late? Would any of us sit still and meekly for no good reason? A meal/snack/toy/book/interesting class is good reason. But for a toddler just sitting for the hell of it sounds pretty miserable.

[Passmethecrisps]

If it is any consolation yw, I thought the bear was fantastic actually. Little M is always a picture of manners but I remember at the last meet I barely sat down at all and was quite run ragged. I had the same "is there something wrong with her?" Thoughts then.

We sound similar in restaurants pr. P has to sit in her seat while we are eating and typically manages this as long as we have timed it right. We also go walks maybe between courses. I hate the thought of her ruining other people's lunches as it is such a treat to eat out but at the same time sometimes I am paranoid and sometimes other people are grumpy.

I am another constant yapper. I think MN would accuse me of being a loud parent. I am not doing for anyone else's benefit - I am just a blether really. I genuinely think that H's language will be fine gt.

Your juice detox sounds amazing vq! I am afraid that coffee and I are very good friends and I won't be swapping for beetroot juice anytime soon. I admire your dedication, I really do.

My mum and dad and p had a fantastic time this weekend. They are so worn down between my mum's work (she is one of the 50,000 women who thought they were retiring within the year only to be told they have to work another 8 years), her aging mother and other stuff. They have had such a hard time it is lovely to see them throwig themselves into being grandparents. P adores them both and seeing her following my dad round the garden copying the silly walk she was doing was hilarious.

Right wanda spill!!!

[Wandathewindfairy]

O wandered off outside after SIL this afternoon, and DH shouted "where's O" and ran outside in a big outburst then took o and ds1 off to another room. It ruined my afternoon, and I took it, prob built it up out of proportion, that it looked like he thought I was a crap mum and couldn't watch the kids properly.

This is my demon. I think everyone thinks I am shit at stuff and I think I am no good at anything. Because this is how I used to be made to feel every day. Once in a while it pops up without warning, but generally I have worked hard to have a better opinion of myself.

We have come to bed for an early night I am sure I will feel better in the morning.

[Passmethecrisps]

Blimey! Big cross post it took me so long to type.

Believe me - our babies have many many years of sitting still to do. They should've as much as they like while they can. I remember at work we had a new ventilation system fitted which was essentially a hole in the roof. It was raining very heavily but the system is supposed be sealed. I popped out for a few minutes and came back to find two very wet children sitting obediently under a faulty system. Poor wee souls told me they hadn't wanted to move without asking first. I must exude hard as nails!!

P was offered no milk today - well I asked her if she wanted it but she said no each time. Ta ta tommee tippee!

Interesting that j vommed after a burp vq. P is now med free and has been for two weeks at least. However, I have noticed more 'sicky' burps. She swallows back down and doesn't seem concerned though so I wonder if it is a reflux thing? Today she did one and then said 'Bleaurgh' and scraped at her tongue. I hope there is no vom on you or in your bed vq.

[BigPigLittlePig]

Oh Wanda . Dh has done this on occasion too, and I had to pull him up on it. I think in their minds, by removing the children to an environment they are in control of entirely, means all is safe - and I know dh wouldn't have even thought I would be upset by his actions. Must be horrible to have old memories suddenly pop up like that though.

Enjoy your early night.

And fwiw you are a sooooper mum

[Passmethecrisps]

Oh, wanda

I am sure an early night and lots of cuddles will make you feel better. I ask this gently but did DH really need to make such a big deal about it? From your description it does sound as if he made you feel negligent. This is clearly not the case at all. I have probably misunderstood but I can really see why you would be feeling terrible

[Wandathewindfairy]

I really don't think he meant it like that but is just because of stuff that went on in my previous marriage, that I never really talk about, that it did.

Is nothing sinister that I don't talk about it just in the main I have moved on so far, but sometimes something happens and I might be run down or overtired and I feel like I am just shit and worthless again. Normally I would think it through and understand the other persons motives and move on but today I could have crawled into a hole.

[horseylady]

Well done vq I'm proud of you!!

-gt I try to speak in full sentences. It's hard but worth it.

yw e does not sit still either. He mainly just runs. Everywhere.

But we do eat out a fair bit and he's a good boy. Several rosette restaurants and a couple of Michelin starred places. Plus the normal pub places. Does him good. We always eat at the table too. Helps with eating out.

That little girl has really upset me though :( so sad