December 2012 tantrums galore and they're not even two yet!

[SpottyTeacakes]

Hope everyone finds this and I haven't doubled up!

I've got really bad back pain and ds is spinning on his zebra crying. No idea why!

She was mortified when she realised!

R's routine is pretty strict, but is transferable to other situations and times - last night we were at MIL's so dinner was 5:30, then bath-pyjamas and clean nappy-into bedroom-sleeping bag-story-cot. I had to sit in there with him for 10 minutes but left him awake and he slept all night till 5 At home, it's dinner at 4:15 Nina and the Neurons and Andy's Dinosaurs choose book and tidy toys, then bath etc as above. He still has Ewan the Dream Sheep to lull him, I'm going to try and get a new one as ours is manky and turns himself on randomly

Left my house keys at my IL's, they somehow came off the clip that holds them all together. Cue mad dash round my parents with a drowsy R at 9:45 when we got home! Twat! And R didn't fall asleep till Basingstoke, please send sleepy dust my way

And I can hear the bloody rat on the roof again. It's a flat roof so no loft for the bugger to be in but I've no idea what's between the ceiling and the roof so whether Roland is actually outside or not. No access to that space (if there is a space) so not sure what we can do. Ignore the bugger I guess.

Rats always have friends I'm afraid, WL I'd get some traps etc asap if I were you

J's a fricking nightmare to get to bed.i do the routine but if he can hear or see you he just wants to come and play with you. So he screams the house down most nights for about 5 minutes before giving in. Sitting with him only prolongs the agony.

Since we've lived with my mum she's been horrified that I let him scream but I went out for my birthday on Saturday and she did bedtime. Even she had to let him cry for a couple of minutes in the end. It's that or he's still up at midnight, jumping up and down on the bed while laughing at you

Same here willyou. C is totally non interventionist at bed time. If you're there, it's for playing. Best for us to leave her to it, even if that means some yelling sometimes. She's got
Much better over lat 2 months - v minimal complaining, but before that she'd whinge for 5-10 minutes sometimes.

We get rats, mice, squirrels and birds I'd put poison down..

I'm off to london WL. We're going to a show then out to dinner then staying over (just in a Hilton so nice but not too pricey). My only rule is no willies because I hate all that stuff

Dd was awful last night and kept coming into our room. In the end dp went into her bed...

The problem is there's nowhere to put traps or poison. We can't get on or in the roof. No idea how it gets up there.

We had full on screaming for about an hour i stupidly let DP do bedtime last night so she just played with him. He doesn't listen when i tell him hes making things a million times harder for me.

WL i hope the rats disappear, my sister use to have pet rats shudder

WL maybe try putting some round the edge of your garden. I know you need to be careful with the dc but hopefully they will find it and take it back to their lair nest.

Hopefully if you can get to him, means he can't get in to you too?? Just the thought of rats make me shiver.

hales another vote here for a good bedtime routine. Even though dd is an early waker (had 2 days of 6am starts which a massive improvement though!!) she goes to bed well. With ds we were a lot stricter with routine but with dd she's got to slot in a bit more especially with it comes to the daytime nap and wonder if this is actually the reason why she's such a bad night time sleeper compared to him.
Routine for ds pre dd was nap time for 2hrs at around 13.00, dinner 18.00, bath 18.45, books with a beaker of milk, songs, bed.
Dd tends to fall asleep for 10-15mins on route to morning activity (not surprising considering she's been up since 5!!), nap at anytime between 12 & 3 depending on what we're doing and ds for around 1-2 hrs. Bedtime routine the same as ds's was although we tend to get up a bit later & bath takes longer as two of them.
I try to give her the same cues every night ie: tell her this is your last story or song, after last song we put the music box on and have a cuddle then I say time to go in your cot & when she's in wind the music box up again, tidy the books away and leave saying night night. Some nights she's happy for this to happen other nights more restless so I put my hand on her back till she settles a bit more. If she starts getting up I just keep putting her on her belly and rub her back.

Was up all night with ds vomiting and I don't feel great either. Luckily I don't work Mondays, got dd into nursery for an extra day and myself & ds are currently snuggled on the sofa with him asleep. Very unusual for him so although has stopped vomiting he's clearly not himself yet plus tired from a disturbed night. Means I am able to start to recover too as felt couldn't move this morning without feeling sick.

I've heard of loads of people having a sickness bug at the moment. I hope your feeling better soon Ddas

Hope everyone's feeling better this evening.

WL are you sure it's a rat and not something more friendly, like a squirrel?

A is still talking to himself in his cot. DD fell asleep about 1.5hrs ago... A did an impressive "let it go", along with general shouting to the music earlier.

I bought him a doll today. He seems to be into them at the moment, and keeps trying to take DD's- which doesn't go down well. This should prevent the odd argument!

all round!

R loves his doll, and insists s/he comes to the park with us! I've managed to dodge him taking the buggy and make him carry him/her in his reins like I carry him :o will fb a pic for you all

I'm not sure what it is but I can hear its scampery and 4 legged. I've been able to hear it on and off since T was little and I would be up a lot at night feeding. I don't hear it a lot and it's not a general scratching but a distinct scamper so I don't think its a whole gang. At some point we will have to have the roof replaced (shudder at the mammoth expense) so unless anything changes I'll ask the roofers to chuck some poison down. I might call the council rat man for advice.
I had an unprecedented nights sleep last night - I was out by 11, no-one disturbed me til 5 - T then settled with a cuddle and her bunny (trying a toy with her as she loves softies and cuddling just now) til 7!! Loved it!

I'm impressed with the musical ability beasty! We don't really have music on at home - hmmm perhaps I should address that.

Ddas - hope you all feel better soon.

WL, C really loves music at the moment - she will dance and sing a lot, so we try to have the radio on at home (though not all the time). She loves me singing the alphabet at the moment and tries to sing along. It's quite a change from even about 3 months ago.

I've got a parents information morning at dd's school today I didn't even think to check I could bring the dc. I'm worried I'll be the only one who does

Ds 'sings' to everything now even tv theme tunes

spotty we had one at ds's school a couple of wks ago and everyone brought the kids plus the younger siblings.

Don't worry Spotty there were a few at our evening.

Ah thanks I feel better now. I'm so stressed about everything atm I feel like I'm going to end up doing some inappropriate crying somewhen...

How are you all this morning ddas? Hope you're all on the mend.

Today is my first day since my op at home by myself with DS. It's been ok so far and I can pick him up and carry him now without so much discomfort.

We're also doing really well giving up the dummy during the day. F has it for his nap and bedtime only, which I'm happy to continue with for a while yet. It lovely because he says so much more now! He says 'oh no!' And 'ah- mor' whilst pointing to something he wants more of, usually food.

Hope you're recovering ok coffee