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Jan 2014 - can we call it a sleep regression if they didn't sleep in the first place?

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Swannykazoo · 05/06/2014 15:10

Here goes...

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MadameBonfamille · 17/06/2014 01:21

Poor you tarka. Have Brew, Cake, and Wine

TobyLerone · 17/06/2014 04:43

tarka, you poor thing. This, too, shall pass.

puggle, I get it. DH is pretty great on the whole, but there have been many times I've had to tell him to put his laptop/phone down and help me. And I've always done all the nights because we're EBF so he couldn't help anyway. Doesn't stop me wanting to punch him sometimes :o

DH is away this week. He tried to moan about it a couple of days ago. I laughed in his face. It went something like, "Waaaaaah waaaahh, you have a whole day's travelling, and when you get there you'll have to work hard. But you still get a lovely big, quiet bed all to yourself, dinner out every night (which you'll be able to take as long as you like to eat, and use BOTH HANDS), a few nice beers with colleagues in the evenings, and you'll be in SAN FRANFUCKINGCISCO!"

He got it :o And that place will now always be called SAN FRANFUCKINGCISCO in our house!

million, don't wish for the rolling. M has been doing it reliably since about 14 weeks and it's a right pain in the arse! She's never where I left her!

I don't know why I'm awake :(

TarkaTheOtter · 17/06/2014 05:10

Thank you. I did get a few hours, now dd awake again. She only has a mild case but chicken pox is horrible. If Alex gets to one without catching it then he is definitely getting vaccinated privately. He's probably already incubating it though Sad
On the plus side at least it has happened on the only week in months when dh is working in the uK all week. I just have to make it another hour or so and they will be up and happy to play with him for a bit before he goes to work.

alteredimages · 17/06/2014 05:12

tarka Cake and Brew

puggle I know what you mean about being scared to write down your feelings in case it makes them true. It is clear that this is bothering you and surely it would be better to deal with it now than let it fester, however difficult it may be. Flowers. Afraid I have no other advice, we are on DC2 and DH still doesn't know how to change a nappy. He does now do washing up and has learned that I cook and clean if I feel like it, which to me seems like big progress.

I am still not feeling good. Fever has gone but still very dizzy and getting heart palpitations plus stomach cramps immediately after eating. Anyone had this before? No diarrhoea or vomiting at all but do have headaches and bone aches. I am figuring breast milk will be ok as long as I am well hydrated but haven't been eating properly since thursday.

N also has a fever now. It reached 39,5 so took him to be checked over at the local hospital. I am not sure if the experience was comical or terrifying. This is where DD was born and we always had good experiences. Not this time. After waiting at least twenty minutes is a stuffy reception because the staff were all busy (they did have time to come and fetch their fast food delivery), we were ushered into a small cubicle. They started by taking N's temp with a mercury thermometer under M's arm (digital is not accurate enough apparently, and under arm is just as good as rectal. I know). And then proceeded to tell me that all the instruments were locked in the consultant's office so he couldn't determine the cause of the fever. Then when we went to weigh N the scales were full of clinical waste including a used drip and lots of used ampoules despite there being a clinical waste bin right beside it. We objected to putting N straight on top since no one offered to clean the scales after removing the waste so they put a sheet on top. Then doc took weight wrongly because he didnt check scale was zeroed first. Wrote a prescription for paracetamol. Went to pay for the "consultation" to find the cost had gone up from 50 Egyptian pounds to 120. Never ever again.

Swannykazoo · 17/06/2014 08:50

Altered - Wine is probably the wrong thing to offer but there's no lucozade icondoofer. Glad to know I'm not alone. I'm mouth agape at how bad last night was for you - really hope you're all better soon

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Angelesque · 17/06/2014 08:53

Puggle hooray for the tooth!! Are we supposed to start brushing them yet? :S

Can you book a night out/overnight away and ask DH to make sure he's about to look after baby Puggle solo? Say you need some time out. He clearly doesn't get just how hard it is looking after a baby - he might appreciate what you do if he has to do it on his own!

Toby know what you mean - DH was in New Zealand last week, is in Greenland this week. He was saying how tired he was going to be when he arrived in New Zealand - I gently pointed out he'd have had 26 hours in business class all by himself by that point and would have had uninterrupted sleep, multi-course meals...

Altered Tarka God, you are both having a rotten time... Lots of hugs and cake and jugs of wine - hope things gets better very soon for you.

alteredimages · 17/06/2014 08:59

Thanks puggle and angel!

N's fever has reduced and to his credit he was smiling away even when his temperature was super high.

I forgot the best part of last night though: The doctor wrote a prescription for paracetamol syrup plus suppositories. When I added up the doses, it turns out he had told me to give N, an 8kg baby, 800mg daily. He said it would be fine to give the syrup every four hours too, which would have brought that up to over 1000mg a day. Am I right to be a bit Confused about this? I thought the recommended dose was 60mg/kg daily in divided doses of 15mg/kg ever 6 hours or 10mg/kg ever 4?

beccajoh · 17/06/2014 09:44

You are meant to brush them yes Smile

Sorry to hear lots of you are having a rough time xx

FelixFelix · 17/06/2014 11:19

Sorry you're having a rubbish time altered and Tarka Sad Altered I am Shock at your hospital experience! And having to pay so much for the pleasure! Crikey.

Enjoyed NCT meet up yesterday. Not much to report here really. I am just steaming some pears to make purée. Rock & roll!

Does anyone have any good ideas of stuff I can give Sylvie to eat? I'm going to start giving her food at lunch as well as breakfast and dinner now. So far she's had avocado, sweet potato, carrots, butternut squash, apples, banana, strawberries. I can't remember what else!

HumptyDumptyBumpty · 17/06/2014 12:30

another that sounds terrifying. Are you okay, and is DD2 okay now?

tarka sounds awful. I'm considering the private cp vaccination too. Hope Alex doesn't get it as well.

altered Christ, that sounds awful. Are there alternative clinics/hospitals you can go to in future? I hope so.
The symptoms you describe sound like proper flu to me, (as in not man flu), which is not going to be fun if it is. You'll need proper bed rest, loads to drink, and paracetamol for your temperature. And expect it to take a couple of weeks before you feel properly well again. Can you get DH to take over/get some help in? Last time I had flu (6 years ago), I was delirious. Actually delirious, raving, cold sweats, the whole palaver. The bone aches sound like it may well be this, but I hope not for your sake. Thanks

alteredimages · 17/06/2014 13:07

Forgot to say, thanks for the link another. Who knew there were so many kinds of mermaid tail? If DD sees it I am in trouble though, she is already complaining that the flippers don't join her feet together.

humpty yes, thankfully there are better hospitals around. The best here in Maadi is called Al Salaam International Hospital, if you are ever in this neck of the woods. I just went to the other one because it is closer and (used to be) cheaper and knew it wasn't anything major. The clinical waste was a bit of a shocker though.

tarka hope DD is feeling better and Alex is all right. I always think of him because he is the closest thread baby to N in age, though born on different sides of the new year. Smile

Has anyone else been having more trouble bfing lately? N will not feed unless it is completely silent and no one else is in the room. This is hard with DD around and I miss TV! Otherwise he just wants to watch tv with me or coo. Anyone else still not babbling? DMIL says she heard him but she also thinks I'm a bit neurotic (who needs a car seat? Grin) so might have been saying it just to reassure me.

TarkaTheOtter · 17/06/2014 14:49

altered we don't have babbling here yet - just dinosaur screeches. Don't think dd ever really babbled either but she was an early talker so wouldn't worry. Can't believe they'll be six months soon!

My lovely dr has written dd a fit to fly note so that's one less thing to worry about. Sometimes it is good he is old school (wasn't so helpful when he said he didn't believe tongue tie was a problem).

TarkaTheOtter · 17/06/2014 14:52

Just looked back at the stats thread altered and they were pretty much the same weight too.

FelixFelix · 17/06/2014 14:53

Altered we have babbling! Only started in the last week or so though. It's quite cute being woken up by her babbling in the morning Smile officially 6 months old on Sunday Shock

AnotherStitchInTime · 17/06/2014 16:17

We have babbling, mum and dadda, M is 6 months next week, but 4.5 corrected. My older two were early talkers.

FelixFelix · 17/06/2014 16:36

Another that's so cute! When Sylvie babbles she really looks like she's trying to tell me something but I have no idea what Grin

beccajoh · 17/06/2014 16:54

We have chatty sort of sounds and he looks very serious about whatever it is he's talking about Grin I do much the same as I do with health professionals - smile and nod Wink. If he pauses for breath I'll chatter back a bit. Tis very cute!

FizzypopFireball · 17/06/2014 21:51

Yes, altered, I've been having problems bfing Henry for over a month now. He's always been easily distracted when feeding, to the point where I find it easier to go into another room, especially if it's darkened. But since he's gotten teeth and has more on the way, he's even been refusing the boob and seems to prefer his thumb, even if he's hungry. I'm finding it really difficult tbh. We're going on a road trip holiday in a few weeks, and I'm dreading the feeding. He still feeds ok if he's very tired or at night, but I worry my supply will dry up.
Anyone else had any previous experience with nursing strikes when teething?

Another - wow, so impressed with the mum and dadda! Henry seems to do him best "talking" when he has his hand crammed into his gob!

beccajoh · 17/06/2014 22:01

Re the distracted feeding, we have that too with Archie. I sit in a dark room if poss otherwise he just doesn't eat. Same thing happened with DD and I took to feeding her lying down in our bed making the room as dark as possible. She's still a nosy little madam now!

Spged · 17/06/2014 22:26

We have distracted feeding too. I have started to offer C milk more often in the hope that I'll get her in the zone for some feeds. Obviously she's perfectly happy feeding between 11pm and 7am!
Felix In the last few days, C has tried melon, mango (yum!) carrot, sweet potato, butternut squash, apple, pear, broccoli, roasted carrots, grapes and tonight she sucked on some chicken. She seems quite happy to suck on anything really and laps down any purée bits I try her on. Yesterday and today were the first times that we sat her down to have proper meals and it's very entertaining although not much is going in!
Trying my hardest not to blow a fuse with DH. I am so tired and he floated the idea that he might play golf on sat or sun. It did not go down well! Really wish he would do more to help and be more involved, but I'm going to wait until he's totally recovered to really have it out with him. On top of everything his parents are visiting tomorrow. It'll be nice to see them, but hard work. Think the tiredness is causing today to be hard. Silly really as in the grand scheme of things and it's not a big deal and I can manage.

HumptyDumptyBumpty · 17/06/2014 22:28

altered the first time I went to Egypt I stayed in Maadi! Happy memories. Glad there is an alternative, that is really shocking.

bf same problems here - though A is weaning herself off boob without me getting a say in it. She has a few gulps occasionally, but flat out refuses in public. I don't mind, means I can wear non nursing bras!

We tried pear purée today, it was VERY popular. She likes to hold the spoon herself, unsurprisingly independent little madam. She wore a lot, spilled plenty, but def swallowed some and was keen to keep trying, which was cute.

Naturegirl82 · 18/06/2014 07:46

Another one with distracted feeding here as well. Also lots of feeding over night as well, and she has become harder to settle back in her crib. Not sure if it's because I'm taking her off the boob too soon because I want to get back to sleep or because of her teeth.

Stupid hayfever is not helping either. It's so hot in our room that we have to sleep with windows open which means I'm waking up completely stuffed up!

Still not weaning here. O can't sit up yet so looking hopeful we can wait till until we come back off holiday. She does look like she might start crawling soon though Shock She's up on hands and knees and her legs go but she hasn't figured out the arms yet!

Sympathies to those with Dh issues. My Dh is the same, he is great and does do a lot but I have to ask him to do really obvious things and even then they often only half get done and then I feel like a nag asking him to finish them off.

Off to the museum today with MIL and SIL, could do with just crawling under the duvet and hibernating though!

FelixFelix · 18/06/2014 13:59

Nature she will be off soon! You'll be running around everywhere after her Grin

So after being able to roll back to front for a few weeks, Sylvie has today realised she can also roll front to back. Finally! She is trying so hard to move about, and seems to think she will move somewhere if she lies on her front and lifts her arms and legs up. She flaps around like a fish. It's highly entertaining Grin

Pidgy · 18/06/2014 19:03

Hi all,
Just checking in to say 'hi'!
We're on holiday this week. Got a great deal at the new Center Parcs. Enjoying it!

Lara has only woken for a feed once, and once for a dummy, for the past 2 nights. She's still up just before 6 but I'm fine with that. Only problem is DS is sleeping in a big bed and is 'enjoying' his new found freedom shall we say. He won't stay in there!! Consequently he's been a little bastard in the day because he's so tired.

DH is finally realising what it's like to have 2 babies to look after!
Will have a proper catch up now I realised I have wifi here . Sorry to those who are ill and struggling with sleep.

Felix have u tried avocado and banana mixed together? Lara loves it! Also sweet pot, broccoli and carrot mix. I've frozen ice cubes of each so I can defrost it in different combinations really quickly. She's more of a savoury girl unlike her mother.

Angelesque · 18/06/2014 21:52

We have distracted feeding too - F's new trick to break off feeding and stare at me until I look at him - he then giggles away and latches back in for a few seconds before doing it again. Incredibly cute but not useful in terms of a good feed!

Pidgy where's the new Center Parcs? I really fancy a Center Parcs break later this year if we can get a good deal.

Final round of injections today (the GP didn't make his appointment so I had to chase and he's had them late at 18 weeks). He screamed his head off, but at least they're all done , hooray!

Felix well done Sylvie!! It's quite terrifying how mobile they're getting, isn't it...