The 9th Broadly Gemini Bus - the one with first birthdays!

[Lorelei353]

Ooh Inge to start a new thread. So if the last one was the one where they don't sleep, then they'll start to sleep now, yes?

I go back to work next Weds Kitty. DS started properly today. Full day today, tomorrow and Friday. I've just done a lovely yoga class and am using the next few days to have lunches, get hair cut etc. miss DS though.

pear definitely want to hear all TTC details! I'm beginning to accept that I will do it all again but not yet!

Lol at him thinking he gets to sleep there Frus! The cheek of it! Utterly ridiculous. I'm proud of the way you're handling this all. You're wonderful. He's an idiot.

pear try interspersing the tantrums with more tantrums, tantrums because you've given the thing requested, tantrums because you've taken it away again, tantrums when it's returned... throw in regular humping of every toy, pillow, blanket, cushion, carefully constructed pile of puzzle pieces ... hitting siblings, throwing things at siblings, tantruming at being made to apologies to siblings, screaming on the toilet then having a dirty nappy 5 minutes later, laughing when you're telling the sibling not to do something so they both end up laughing at you whenever you put your serious face on until you're tempted to just let them starve/kill each other/run completely feral just to stop you crying or banging your head against the wall... 2 year olds are great fun. Trust me, you have no idea what it's like until it hits you! I'm actually looking forward to my final CBT session tomorrow because I get to be out of the house for screaming/refusing/water-throwing dinner time.

Someone tell me they get easier?!

It gets easier Agnu, honestly every few months makes a difference!
Personally I do find the age our newbies are at the hardest, the unabity to be able to rationalise, the lack of danger fear, the falling, the crying about everything..... Give me a 2 year old any day!
Yesterday I had kitten ( while she was eating toast in high chair and I was rushing around as was meeting people in 10 mins and think eek better get washing in as it was starting to spit) climb out of high chair across tray ( they are not that strong!) to the table and when I returned was sat in the middle of said table! I asked tiger why she hadn't called me and her response was " she wanted some beans"
She also as I was getting tigers clothes from her bedroom and tiger went to do a wee in the bathroom first in the time It took me to get back to the bathroom had decided how much fun it was to play splash with the wee in the potty
How she's not maimed or seriously injured yet is beyond a miracle!
Stick with it bring, I honestly don't think it will make a difference to her well being, for generations people have used that method, didn't they just use to leave baby's in prams at the bottom of the garden?! You've tried cajoling her, feeding her, rocking her... There comes a point when like you say for our sanity that you have to take action, especially when your looking after other dc's too, I don't believe I'm the only one with lack of patience or short tempered when really really tired! 3 nights will probably be the making of her and that's all so your over half way, night three with kitten and she murmured once for a minute and that was it! She's still a really loving cuddly thing so she obviously didn't hate me for too long I think it's like the sleeping on the tummy thing, you know what the guidance says, you know you'd rather not but at the same time, you have to be willing to accept not all kids are the same and if it makes them happier more rested, more comfortable then that's your call as a parent to them, we do our best that's all we can do!
Frus- seriously

kitty Want to swap kitten for Calf?

He's still asleep! I don't tend to wake him anymore because I assume that if he's still asleep it's because he needs it. I'm getting a little concerned now though! He's usually awake by 8.30 at the latest these days. I'm about to go check on him but I'm putting it off because I have this utterly irrational fear of finding him dead after watch a film many years ago where the parents ignored a little noise on the baby monitor & found their DS the next morning with a pull-along toy wrapped round his neck. My DC don't have anything with long strings on for this reason & I'm obsessive about which toys he has in his room overnight! Right. I'm going up. He'll be fine though - he didn't go to sleep until at least 10 last night!

Ha! Absolutely fine - I opened the door to find him sitting up on his bed & the first thing he said was "did we scare you?" Not sure if this was asking if he'd scared me or saying I'd scared him!

Urrr bring It took 8 weeks of CIO before I got a "sleeping through" baby and we go back to square 1 every time he falls ill so don't think for one second that I've had it easy!

And Agnu... Yes I'm sure 2 year old tantrums are worse then a 1 year old tantrum but what would I know I'm a first timer! It's kind of daunting to be a first time mum not knowing what to do. Guess you've forgotten that feeling!

Geeze thanks for the support ladies

pear I live that feeling every day! We're all first-timers with our eldest no matter how old they are!

I'm pathetic. The local home-ed group has a session for under 8s this afternoon. I was going to go but talked myself out of it. I even woke Runt with just enough time to get there so now I'm stuck with both of them all afternoon & we can't even go for a walk because it's raining! They're watching a DVD at the moment but Calf's getting a bit antsy so I might put his waterproofs on & turf him out in the garden, rain or no rain!

Haha pear I admit that I can be cruel and tease others to no end its just the way I am so you were the brunt of that one. You've worked hard to get him to sleep through and it's still exhausting having to get up super early and cater to another person's needs (however irrational they are at 1 year old). I don't know if we will ever recover from the extreme tiredness that comes with parenthood, no matter how many hours of sleep we get. I've heard that the feeling never, ever goes away as long as you have children living somewhere! Caffeine and occasional naps when I can get them in are my only saving grace for motherhood.

I agree with agnu. It's always a new learning experience at every age with the first born. I feel like anytime between now and 2.5 is kinda hellish. There's no reasoning with them, they don't understand explanations for things, they are just driven by pure WANTS to point where NEEDS are set aside (eating, sleeping, etc). So many adorable moments, but so, so much work. Frick, how did I forget about what's coming up? Mother Nature really knows how to make you forget everything so that you think having another is a good idea.

Eh, yeah, just toss him outside agnu! Make it a goal to see how many mud puddles he can jump in

How'd it go last night Frusso?

Agnu did you not read kitten and the wee story
Sorry you didn't make it to the group? Is there another you can try? I do find it difficult to suggest what's best with you in a genuine I can't put myself in that position, know what I mean? I don't want it to be patronising and I know how hard it is for you to do these social things so I wouldn't want to say, just go you'll have fun! To me I can't stay in, they'd drive me stir crazy, I find the days much more fun and fast when we are out and about but that's what's best for me, I'd take them to soft play and groups so they burn off abit of energy, do you take calf to any classes? Tiger loves gymnastics and is brilliant at it, I'm encouraging alot of focus things at the moment as she will go to school the year before calf and I want her to learn the importance of listening to teachers etc
Pear kitten has tantrums all the time too and her newest trick is to point at what ever she wants or where she wants you to take her like the queen little buggar it is all a learning curve as one is never like the other! I think they are all hard at this age though!

Aww poor FrussoBoy! I'm dreading the first bleeding incident from Runt. We've had bruises but no blood yet! Hope it heals quickly!

kitty I've not started him at any classes yet. I'd love to but he doesn't listen in either the toddler group or Sunday school he currently goes to so I'm not sure how much he'd get out of it. I suspect he'd just disrupt everyone else & that's not fair on them, is a waste of our money & is likely to embarrass me! When he starts showing signs of not having to be held down to listen to a story or do singing time then I'll start looking into classes! Currently I'm thinking gymnastics, rugby & probably tap dance are the things I'll let him try first! Most of those don't seem to start until 3 in this area, although there are a few sessions where equipment is made available for parents to use with little ones.

CBT was interesting last night. We learnt that if we're worrying about something we can't change then we should say to our brains "thank you for your input, we'll come back to that later."

Agnu you might find he'd be totally different in a sport class as it incourage a stimulation, in the sence of warm up in gym is playing games where you hide then run as fast as you can from a cat or your a train that's on a line going slow, then fast then bumpy jumping, the kids love it so much and it's just in a big room that's soft so it's fine, quite often you can sample one lesson before comiting so you could see how it goes, one child always plays up, usually different ones each week it's not like they are all little angels ours is from 18months though so starts them young however I think 2 up is when they are more able to start doing it with more understanding, if you explained it to him first, and how you must listen to the teacher then if you are really good we might be able to come again etc maybe worth a try?
No bloody accidents here either yet but only by a miracle she's had her mmr today though but dh took her, I don't think I could bear it now she's older and have her look at me like why mummy why!!

Oh and great training, I'll try that next time I'm fretting

Ds slept through the night! First time ever, 7.30-6 without a peep out of him. All by himself too with no training or anything. It'll probably not happen again for years but still, I'm happy today. Off to do a yoga class.

Well done little baby lor great news, don't doubt him, I think you may get lucky x

Wow Lor! Hopefully this is the start of a new routine for you!

Frus how are you & the DC doing after (not-so-D)H's exit? Have you managed to sort out the practicalities yet?

Well ds developed a raised temp and was feeling rubbish last night so definitely no sleeping through although he slept okay all things considered.

Just got home from Chicago today. Had a lovely girls weekend with a girlfriend. DH had the kids and everyone was actually happy and clean when I got home

Hope everyone had a great weekend!

We have a word! I think! Over the last 2 days Runt has either said Mamama when he sees me or while wanting attention at least half a dozen times! It's not a sound he's made much before & he does only seem to do it in relation to me... I'm counting it!

You're never going to believe what I did yesterday... I took the DC to the park all by myself! We must've been out of the house for about 45 minutes in total... I can't remember the last time I just took them somewhere without anyone else! It's a big thing for me. I had semi thought about doing it again today but I thought we'd play in the garden & have another go at potty training... The park would've been the better option. He wasn't due that! He seems to be operating on a 2-3 day cycle & did the world's most enormous mid change dirty nappy yesterday! My cunning plan had been to wait until he'd done it so I'd only have to deal with wee for the first day or 2! Usually his dirties are at night anyway. His digestive system must not have got the memo!

Everyone's quiet on here these days... Don't tell me you all have actual lives to live?!

Exciting Agnu ! Definitely a word.

Definitely been quiet around here! Mostly I'm just wandering around in a daze. DS wasn't well last weekend so not great sleep. He's perked up but is drooling massively. He's also developed a kind of eczema-type rash on his legs and bum. GP thinks that having temp/sweating, plus the heat is just aggravating his sensitive skin. She's given us cream for it which does seem to be working but I think it's itchy for him.

So, with the itchiness and teething etc. he's generally just a bit run-down I think. A few little mouth ulcers also come up on his tongue (but it's not hand, foot and mouth or anything).

With all that going on, he's not sleeping. That last two nights every time he's been drifting off to sleep within seconds he's jolted awake again. It's taken 2 1/2 hours to get him down and he's only stayed down for an hour or so before waking up and needing resettling which has taken hours. He only got about 6 hours proper sleep the night before last and about the same last night. He was dog-tired yesterday afternoon but screamed for 40 mins before going down for his nap. Don't know what's going on.

He's at nursery today so hopefully he'll nap for them and we can get him down tonight.

He also turned one yesterday. So exciting! Can't believe he's one already.

They did prescribe hydrocortisone cream (fairly low dose steroid) for the itching. Put it on morning and before bed. I don't think it's too bad, but he is absent-mindedly scratching at his legs and groin a bit.

I'm almost wondering if it's his ears Lor. M did the same thing when her ears were infected (dozing off and then waking up immediately screaming). Did the doc take a look at them when you saw her?

Aww! Cute for a first word, angu!

Less than a week and M will be ONE. Jeesh this year went quickly.

I'm so tired. M has been sleeping fantastically for some reason, but I'm still so exhausted. Is it possible to get too much sleep?

I take it the sleep training paid off then bring!?! How did it go was it just a few nights? Well done frus's, all achievements celebrated here!
Agnu, well done you! So pleased you ventured out, I bet ds's enjoyed it! Lovely first word dh said kitten actually said my mama when is given her to him at a shopping centre last week and she watched me walk away crying and trying to get back to me lol she's such a mummy's girl though she still hasn't said da da yet he he he
Lor hope the little guy perks up, they can get very frought and wound up with lack of sleep and it's a vicious circle that makes them worse- the tireder they are the more they fight it, hope he feels better soon!
Pear- have you left us