November 2012 - Roll on summer, we want paddling pools!

[StuntNun]

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I slightly screwed up tea too. I forgot I was doing a roast chicken until the girls started asking about dinner. So it was omelette and baked beans here. The roast will have to be tomorrow. For DH's b'day dinner. Not that he'll be home on time to enjoy it.

PMT is a shocker this week.

Another one here hoping not to pass on food hangups. Not quite sure whether I'm doing the right thing though. I just offer whatever I'd planned and don't withhold pudding - which is only ever yog or fruit. I think we err on the plain side for food, I could probably offer him more spices etc.

L doesn't have a self esteem problem either - I say '
"who's beautiful?" and he points at himself. He has the decency to look bashful though.

Also, weirdly, despite still not saying many words, we've noticed he can count to ten. He won't do it if you ask but you see him counting as he goes up or down steps etc. He holds up his fingers too. I'm sure he can say a lot more than he's letting on - he still refuses to say Mummy!

Dd doesn't say mummy either
She says.....nothing! Still !
chick how's your ds's speech coming on ?
Spoke to HV today and she is referring her for a hearing test first of all
Trying not to worry, but she doesn't always seem to understand what I'm saying
HV says not to worry She has just been " a baby " for a very long time and some just are like this..
Also she is part of a big family where others may talk for her etc
Lovely to read how all yours are getting on though :)

I'm with wanda on the food situation. I would be offering meals at meal times and no snacks if they aren't at least attempted. I understand not wanting to turn it into a battle but I wouldn't have a child dictate to me sorry.

C kisses himself in the mirror and smiles at his reflection. Here's hoping he will have more self esteem and confidence than I do.

I'm another in camp wanda.

Have started giving F a weetabix before bed, plus her bottle of milk. She has stopped waking at the crack of dawn. Indeed today I got home from my night shift at 9.45 to find her still asleep?! Wtf!?

Am amazed by the level of speech some of the babies have. 3 word sentences! F doesn't have 3 words to put together

Erm.

Hoping Kyz is ok, missing you laydee.

Also club Wanda here. I don't have time to offer alternatives. All kids go through a fussy/control time. Perfectly normal. If he throws it on the floor then it gets taken away too. Only exception is when poorly or teething. He has his last two incisors coming through and would only eat soft food yesterday. But she is your child Lily. I think you are doing a wonderful job, and she is clearly a very bright young lady

Also club Wanda here. I don't have time to offer alternatives. All kids go through a fussy/control time. Perfectly normal. If he throws it on the floor then it gets taken away too. Only exception is when poorly or teething. He has his last two incisors coming through and would only eat soft food yesterday. But she is your child Lily. I think you are doing a wonderful job, and she is clearly a very bright young lady

Fucking app

Ahhh yes bp I usually do weatabix or toast at bedtime depending! I think works a treat.

thank you so much, really reassuring. my child ate rice with peas and liver tonight just to show how ridiculous I am with this worry. I could have cried. why do children do this? pushing you to the limit than prove you mental? anyway, I will try my best to pull myself together and not to make an issue out of it. I am beyond relieved.

We had our first 'sentence' today - 'ee want ishkit (me want biscuit)

Today every word I've said he's tried to repeat "cuddle" "teddy bear" "Tom thumb" "gorilla" "spicy". I don't think he understands them all but today was a mynah bird day for sure!

I think I'm possibly in the middle foodwise. I struggle to let him leave the table without eating as he's only a 9th centile 21lber - if he was a chubber with pounds to spare I'd be more relaxed probably.

When I offer an alternative its a leftover and presented alongside the first option (I don't want him thinking I'm rummaging thru the fridge trying to appease him) also if I'm serving a spoon food the other option / course would be a finger food. So today's lunch was spicy chicken rice and the finger food, from yesterday was courgette fritters. I'd like him to eat or try both but if he only goes for one I don't complain - I leave that element of choice to him. If he fannies around with both options I take him down. I wouldn't cook fresh and he would only get offered a sweet or otherwise comfort food without trying his main if ill / teething. I'm wary of fussy eaters as my 12 year old step brother to this day has a list of 6 savoury foods he'll eat and my dad utterly panders to him (fish and chips twice a day!). He's broadly adventurous in a sweet shop curiously !

I'm taking my pmt out on this dogsitter. Don't fucking write on your website "If your dog is unhappy on his own we will ensure someone is with him at all times" and then tell me that you can't cope with a dog that has separation anxiety ffs.

Fussy eaters aren't necessarily fussy toddlers. And fussy toddlers can become great eaters overnight. I was an easy eater until I had my milk incident. Then turned into a pita and am still pretty fussy now. I eat most things other than shellfish and milk and purees but I am a pita very particular about where it comes from. And if I notice that someone who is cooking for me has sloppy food hygiene then that puts me right off whatever they will give me in the future. So a fussy eater of most.

I know some really fussy kids whose parents have done nothing wrong at all. They are just fussy. Which is why the whole BLW vs traditional weaning bollocks about BLW leading to less fussy eaters cracks me up.

What a lovely welcome back vq ....twice! Lol :)

J does ok with food most of the time, he's never refused anything really until this week with his fake cheese pasta that he threw. I can't have him eat nothing so I made toast rather than his usual post dinner treat of soya yoghurt or organix something or other!

We still don't have speaking here and j is one of the oldest iirc. I'm not worried and neither was HV. She said they wouldn't do anything until they were aged 2.

PR my brother only became fussy at 3. What they're like now, as you say, isn't a given for the future.

The food chat is fascinating as I have sat in both camps at points. Tonight for example p was offered sunshine chicken with savoury rice. She had a few spoonfuls then wanted up from her chair. In the end she ate a bite or two of the little Indian starter things DH and I were eating and half a banana. She now understands "would you like anything else to eat?". She shakes her head if not and sort of yelps if she does as she doesn't always know the word.

I have also found myself moulding an ignored rice dish into fried rice balls as I was so worried about her not eating. I am now learning to trust her judgement more about her own hunger and not to fash to much about a missed meal. Your other worry lilly about waking early through hunger may well be unfounded. This has also been a worry of mine with p but she sometimes actually sleeps later which often suggests to me that she was maybe fed up, too tired or a bit under the weather.

Watching Homeland all smug because I actually did some ironing tonight!

And donna I hope the hearing test goes well. I am sure it is just down to having a house full of other talkers!

Is it possible that being fussy is actually just being selective? Maybe it's a good thing

DD1 at this age was still only saying the odd random word and nothing that anyone else could understand. It all came together suddenly a few months ago at about 2 and a half. When she started nursery full time in fact and needed to speak.

LO is speaking as well as DD1 was at about 26-28 months.

My DB went to primary school at almost 5 utterly incomprehensible to anyone other than my mum. Went on to pass 11+, straight a's at school, studying medecine...

They're all different.

Lily I could have written your post. I've been very frustrated by h eating habits. Last week refuses weetabix most days. Wants Cheerios which we use as a snack.
At lunch time, has refused most food this week.
Gets a snack biscuit. Mid morning when on way home from park. He has stopped having a fruit snack after nap.
Very frustrating.
Last time he was like this was before his vampire teeth came through. But I thought the last molars wouldn't come in until he is older?
And how do you know it's being fussy and not teeth?

My neighbours are so cheeky. Nephew kicked over ball last week. I've seen it several times, however I never see them out. Then the ball vanished! They took it in. Just seen a kid who must be a guest playing with it in garden and asked for it back. The ppl who live there are sat in the garden and saw it happen. Can't believe they tried to pinch H's ball.

PR for always re assuring me
Also because the others are at school all day, she only has the dog for company, and he doesn't speak
That is so annoying about your dog PR my dog has this too! he cries and howls when I'm on the school run.

Disclaimer...I'm not just leaving the dog to entertain her all day
I'm pointing things out , reading 10 books per day etc
I know she'll speak eventually , they all get there in their own time
I ll see how the hearing test goes, she does get very waxy ears.

GT my neighbours are quite pleasant and keen gardeners
....but.. They make a point of not throwing the ball back for a few days to make a point that the kids need to be more careful, it's ridiculous , but I don't get het up, they are also the sort that get all uppity if someone parks outside their house in their space, yet they have a driveway to the side that they never use, there's nowt queer as folk! I pity them for being so cantankerous! but I'd rather live next door to them than my last weed smoking, happy hardcore pumping neighbours

R is 18 months old today :o

Hi guys,

12 pages into a fred and i've not posted once yet! We moved in on Saturday so it's been a bit busy for me, and i'm currently wibbling a bit on my own on the sofa, dp has gone to work and I am not used to this at all :( But on the plus side E seems to really enjoy things here :) Took him to get his pictures done today but the lady who usually does them wasn't there. Needed to get his feet measured too and he's gone up to a 7.5 now :| so he's got new shoes and some new sandals too :)

It looks like i'll have time on my hands on the odd evenings, any ideas on a series I might find to watch on Netflix or Virgin? I like things like the walking dead, dexter, 24, and i'd probably watch things a bit less action-y without dp

I won't do the worlds biggest most epic post cos I expect most of it is irrelevant now but I have read everything :)

recipes very useful pr as you know :)

eliza that's really positive re: e's weight :) yay!

yw the thought of J walking Betsy around the garden made me smile, sounds very cute :)

pass yaaay for meds reduction for p :) how are you feeling now? is your eye still poorly? I don't know if i've missed any updates, i have read but can't recall reading about your eye. Glad ageing pussy is ok too :)

chasing your post from saturday sounded so happy, it's made me smile a bit more too :)

pig Your dh cracks me up with his culinary delights! Bless him! He does better than dp would though!

pass i'm struggling to find time to read too, I started one before this moving malarkey, really should get on with it!

oooh gt i'd be narked re that drink comment!

glad o didn't get hurt Detective, e can be terrible at pulling books/dvds down. the more i tell him though the more i think he does it to wind me up. same with throwing etc

sounds like lots of people had nice weekends :D I cooked sunday dinner, which i have done before, but usually my mum cooked it, e has never eaten it, he didnt like it, but he ate the one i cooked yesterday :D this makes me all happy!

stunt hugs, it sounds like you need some :( I am glad your mum is flying over to help out, please don't feel too guilty, you'd help out your children in a similar situation I am sure. have some more hugs xx

I didn't know that about slugs and ashes either!

I'm finding the eating chat fascinating too! Cutlery - Until literally 2 days ago I pretty much spoonfed e everything except for finger food, he just tipped stuff from a spoon or threw it. The past couple of days he's enjoyed and asked to feed himself and has done really quite well. He uses a spoon or a little fork, or he did today and yesterday! I haven't ever tried to force it, I've always found mealtimes are something that will bring me great stress if I let them, so I try to be relaxed with things if I can. gt i'm similar to you and i get put off when he throws things/makes a right mess

pp i also find e can be a bit iffy with mince. Some days he will eat it and other days he wants it mushing quite a bit

hey perse glad you're having a great time :)

also hey chick :) hey everyone really, i've been gone a little while too

nice to see you back izzy I always have thought of you as izzy

seems there's been a fair bit of illness :( hope all babies and quichesters are better soon!

glad your headache and heat rash have gone pr

I hope things get better with o soon lily sorry i don't have any advice, but if it helps you to feel better e is quite tantrummy atm, i do hope and think it's very much likely to be a phase, so that's good, right? hopefully it'll all be better soon or they'll move onto something else! If and when e is being fussy with his meal, i offer toast or fruit and then that's it. I would make an exception for poorly/teething but otherwise I don't. e has snacks but if he's having one of his not eating much days he won't eat a snack offered anyway so generally he doesn't choose to ignore meals and eat snacks, just some days he doesn't eat much of anything :/ the past couple of days he's been good but then about a week ago he had a meltdown because he saw pom-bears at breakfast (left them on the side so he saw them in the morning) and he ended up going without breakfast because I wasn't about to give pom-bears! If he was very poorly, and hadn't or wouldn't eaten, then maybe i'd resort to trying pom-bears for breakfast! He loses food that he throws on the floor too, when he does it deliberately

Reading the last few pages though it sounds like some babies aren't in high chairs any more? Am I supposed to be trying to get him to eat sat at a table? He'll just get down/fall down/attempt to fly down etc etc. Where do I start? :S

bless o det and his ud oy, that's very sweet. E is not so sweet recently and he is most taken with shouting willywillywilly all the while. or loverlyloverlylovely!

stunt i also struggle to leave food, was brought up to clear my plate and i don't like to waste things. I am hoping to control my portion sizes now i'm cooking for myself all the time because i definitely eat too much. I also havent bought any snacks. I am regretting this currently :(

why no hot water wanda?

counting to ten msj that's fab! I am also in awe of lilys o, very clever with her speech! E is always chattering these days and recently has managed things like see you later, night night and then whoevers name it is he's talking to.

aww bp it's quite nice to be missed :) I thought you'd all have forgotten who I am! Dp is at work early all week so I'll be here this week :) I've seriously missed you all

I never thought of cereal at bed time. E still has a bottle before bed :/ Plus i'm not sure i cba to get the high chair out for a fourth time each day!

That's brilliant lily i'm really pleased for you that she's eaten something to help stop you worrying a little :) hugs. Iwas also going to say the same as pass about not worrying so much about her waking, e has had me worried before with food and when he's not eaten he still hasn't woken. I think what pass wrote re food is the same as me to be honest, as I am more relaxed now but have been a very worried mummy in the past with e being picky or just seeming to have no appetite at times.

pr i'd be pissy too, false advertising, that?

hope the hearing test goes well donna :)

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