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November 2012 - Any tips for surviving the 18-month sleep regression?

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StuntNun · 08/04/2014 15:57

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/2035882-November-2012-Are-the-LOs-old-enough-for-Mothers-Day-yet

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Sophiathesnowfairy · 09/04/2014 18:52

Not Byker.

Sophiathesnowfairy · 09/04/2014 18:56

I have just declared Wine o'clock. DH is in
Brussels tonight so I need a keeky film to watch on Netflix. And am having a glass of rosé.

O has been a terror this afternoon. He keeps pulling the tv aerial out and now CBeebies is not getting a signal properly at all. Then he bit my boob. Then he started pulling my hair while I was doing sit ups. Ok I know he just wanted attention but it hurt. He is getting very bold and definitely knows what he wants....now how to channel that?

Thanks for the vote of confidence yw a girl needs a confidence boost every now and then. As you know just try and test and love them. I had a good conversation with the sure start woman about it today.

Zamboni · 09/04/2014 19:00

Wine Sophia, I think I'll join you with that! Anyone else for Wine?

Sophiathesnowfairy · 09/04/2014 19:01

Chinkety chink zamboni

Zamboni · 09/04/2014 19:04

must not accidentally drink whole bottle

Pikz · 09/04/2014 19:07

Zamboni you deserve abig drink!

Soph pics on book of face

YellowWellies · 09/04/2014 19:14

Will put up pics when the bookcases are in - eBay not a bad idea for the curtains though postage could be crippling Hmm .

fruitpastilles · 09/04/2014 19:18

Collect plus are quite reasonable for heavier items, I use them if I sell clothes bundles.

Sophiathesnowfairy · 09/04/2014 19:31

Just do collection only. That is what I dud for my bugaboo donkey and had pesos fighting over it.

Lily311 · 09/04/2014 19:42

Not drinking tonight, too lazy to go to the kitchen.

Just finished my dad's and my tax return here, in Hungary. And put my grandma's house for sale on a couple of websites. She died when O was born but no one wants to take control of the inheritance so my mum decided to do it. Meaning I will do it. Great. She gave me a list what to do and on top of that she wants a laptop or tablet so need to search for deals. Tempted to sell my iPad to her and I get a new one.

I still need to pay 2 bills online, order a book, a present, pay my fee for the half marathon and call my cousin. Maybe I will get up and get a glass of wine.

PetiteRaleuse · 09/04/2014 19:59

Yay. Both girls asleep. DH is out this evening with work.

Going to eat and then read for the evening I think :)

Night quiche.

ValiumQueen · 09/04/2014 20:02

Night 3 and on my own with DD2 as well. Both children angelic and J asleep an hour earlier than he has been. Took 15 put backs, 5mins quiet, then 8 put backs. He may well be up again, but he is learning. And we put ITNG on thanks to your comment PR. it used to work wonders with DD1, so that will be reinstated as part of the bedtime routine. He was nowhere near as upset tonight, just trying his luck, and who can blame him.

I have my glasses, and am very pleased with them. Driving is great, but I feel a bit tiddled walking still. I need to take them off for reading, and spent 5 mins earlier looking for them to find them on my head. Duh!

YellowWellies · 09/04/2014 20:03

Sounds like the third night has cracked it as you thought it would VQ!

I've been known to look for my specs whilst wearing my contact lenses and then wondered how I could see the room so clearly....

Pikz · 09/04/2014 20:11

Wow wee vq J is doing awesomely.

YW I wore one contact lens with my glasses when I was about 30 weeks pregnant for about 2 weeks by accident

flouncymcflouncerson · 09/04/2014 20:19

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ValiumQueen · 09/04/2014 20:23

I will wait a while before claiming to have cracked it, but I think he is learning.

I am going to try to sleep while I can Smile

Passmethecrisps · 09/04/2014 20:24

I have done that before yw. Frequently. Or on occasion only realised I have gone to bed with my lenses in when I pop my glasses on.

I am also very impressed with the wee man vq! I cannot believe he is in a big bed already - good work.

P has been on good form today and is clearly glad to be home. There was building work happening on a mansion house directly opposite the flat we were in and it started at 7:30 and finished at 7pm. Pneumatic drills the entire time. None of us got much peace but I think p was so very happy to see her own bed. She napped for 3 hours earlier and would have gone on longer if I had let her.

I am currently working on a job application which has to be in by midnight. I am having a major crisis of confidence as I feel like I have gone backwards. I need to capture the fact that I may not have been driving forward this initiative and that initiative in the last two years but I have matured and developed into someone who can still do those things but with a greater self-awareness than I had before.

Pikz · 09/04/2014 20:35

Pass repeat after me...

I am awesome
I am brilliant
I can walk this job
I am awesome

Sophiathesnowfairy · 09/04/2014 21:04

Brilliant vq from what I remember my DNeice always struggled to sleep but things came together when they change her cotbed into a bed. Sees to be working out for you too. I hope you have a good night. Get yourself of to bed now young lady.

pass go girl. You will be fine. Keep repeating your mantra and get back in the game.

Kyz · 09/04/2014 21:09

Oh my word. I missed the end of the last fred and i thought ooh, a new fred, I can manage the couple of pages that'll be! Five pages, guys!

Well, it's been pretty shitty here guys, thank fuck it's sweary fucking weds! Did I get up to telling you that the new car broke, was spark plugs? Ok so, old car broke last week, had to buy a new one...spark plugs went...had to buy new ones... FF to sunday... Rat had her litter, a tiny litter of 3 (they usually have 8-12). Monday we lost the one little boy. Then yesterday I went to the rat shed to do checks on everyone and feed them etc and I found a hole in the side/bottom of the shed and my old boy dead, plus 3 girls with tails in tatters. A wild rat had decided to chew it's way into the shed and munch my guys and girls :( I've had them in a shed for about 5 years now and never had this, it's lined and insulated and all electric etc, so it's properly kitted out, computer table and everything, not a run down old shack with a couple of cages. I checked this morning and a little girl from the litter (now 3 days old) was dead and the other hadn't been fed. Plus one of the three with poorly tails wasn't looking fab. So.... rang the vets, spent all day fretting about this remaining rat kitten... have been feeding it every couple of hours because mum doesn't seem to be producing enough but i'm reluctant to take baby because mum is caring for her in every other way. Girls are staying in at the vets as one needs a partial amputation. Another might at a later date.

I've just fed the little baby. She is 3 days old, just. Luckily mum is doing 70% of the work, because she is stimulating her to go to the toilet, keeping her warm and feeding her as much as she can. I however do need to feed baby every 1.5 hours round the clock with warm milk, taking great care (it's fucking tricky stuff this) to not drown said kitten with milk. Drop by drop it goes in. It seems harder than the sparrow i hand reared. Outcome is rarely good and whether she'll make it through the night is anyones guess. So, if i'm knocking about tonight and spout utter bollocks it's because i am seriously tired and am up feeding this little miss.

yay for stitches out lily

I have done no shredding, stress has caused me to eat to fuckery. Which makes me feel shit. I am stuck stuck stuck!

Hope you had a lovely birthday stunt

ooh good luck with the personal training etc zamboni!

yw the house is a bombsite on a thursday (fuck me that's tomorrow!) when i have dsis and dniece and e all morning. I do sympathise with you, they are messy these little people!

oh no flouncy hope you feel better soon!

gt i loved goodnight mr tom, I read it when I was a kid, brilliant book if a little lot sad

so pleased J is sleeping ok for you atm stunt

hiii pass definitely your duty to protect p from those bunnies (i love those bunnies)

vq i think it sounds like J is doing fab in his big boy bed, and you are too :) not in his big boy bed, but you know what I mean!

I don't know what camp I am in (and really dislike all the labelling and pressures put on parents these days) but I think it's important you find something that works for you whatever that is, and it might not be the same method that worked for your last baby or for your next door neighbours baby or whatever else, but if it works and you're comfortable, and obviously isn't child abuse, then fine. I do think after being a part of this quiche I would question things like dietary issues, defintely. I do like a routine and e seems to appreciate it. He will not eat if tired and will not sleep if hungry so letting him sleep whenever and wherever definitely doesn't work for us. Having said that I do feel a bit trapped sometimes with it all. But I try to go with e in terms of how much he wants to eat, how much sleep he has etc. I didn't ever force him to drop bottles, it naturally happened and he still has one now for example.

sorry for your bad night bplp have a [coffee]

yw your house will be so fab when it's done, it sounds lovely!

pass you are simply fantastic, this is very important and definitely true :)

Right. Almost time to feed this here tiny rat. Am likely to be back later though! xx

BigPigLittlePig · 09/04/2014 21:51

Oh kyz that sounds horrible, you must be so upset Sad . I hope the littlest rat is ok, shall keep my fingers crossed.

YW I agree with the others about gumtree or ebay. Horrid they may be, but someone will probably love them and part with some pennies to help fund future projects.

VQ I am so glad J is doing so well, what a relief.

Pass good luck with the job application, and with ridding yourself of the MIL induced rage.

My mum bought me a parenting book by "she who must not be named" when F was tiny. Her heart was firmly in the right place, but after reading the first chapter, it was so clear that F was not going to fit in that I have never looked at it again. Because of the reflux, we have ended up going more down the attachment route than I would have thought, but it has been what worked.

So today we have had a massive moment. E471 is an additive sometimes made with soya lecithin and sometimes not. F has always reacted to the lecithins, even though she's not "supposed" to. We didn't realise that this E business was soya related. She has been scoffing vitalite, cocoa pops amongst other stuff, which has this in. So have now stopped anything with that in. Have been swearing plenty, good job it's Wednesday!

Wine chink!

Elizadoesdolittle · 09/04/2014 22:01

Oh kyz How sad about your poor rats. I really hope baby rat makes it. Good luck and hope you survive all the wake ups!

Welcome back family crisps

vq SOunds to me like you and J are doing marvelously.

Re parenting I think I'm a wing it and see type of mummy with a bit of routine thrown in for good measure. DD1 and E have required me to parent them slightly differently.

Had a wonderful day out at a country house and gardens local to me with a group of my close friends. All kids played nicely together and the sun shone. Pretty much a perfect day. apart from I thought I had been organised enough to put a slow cooker dinner on before I left, only to get home and discover the bloody thing wasn't plugged. Luckily I had lots of left overs in the fridge and it inadvertanly means dinner is sorted for the next couple of days so could have been worse!

YellowWellies · 09/04/2014 22:08

BP thanks for that info on E471 J doesn't react to soy any more but a pal's wee one was diagnosed today as having issues with soy and dairy so I'll pass it on. She's had the most horrible nights for 14 months with her LO but comes from a family who view cow's milk as 'what babies should eat'. Her DH once said to me authoratively about BF 'don't they all wean themselves onto cow's milk at 6 months, I mean that's the natural way isn't it'? so she's having a real battle against her DH and ILs wanting to 'treat' her DD this Easter Sad .

fruitpastilles · 09/04/2014 22:18

kyz that sounds awful, the poor rats. Fingers crossed the little one will be ok. You are so good to look after her so well. I struggle just looking after S, let alone having to feed another little one so often. Thanks

flouncymcflouncerson · 09/04/2014 22:44

:( :( :(