November 2012 - The exciting all new all singing all dancing fred

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1983613-November-2012-What-is-going-on-with-these-babies

Flouncy, I don't know how you cope. I would be a broken woman by now.

Pikz - same for you. I have a great deal of admiration for all of those who are dealing with sleep deprivation

Just spent half an hour with O and XP. Was actually really nice. O is such a happy, adorable child and it is nice to share that with the person who loves him as much as I do.

Careful.

Have a great day chasing

You too Sophia (He also gave me some money to buy O some clothes so I am off to the city centre for some retail therapy )

DH is in the garage playing with the car again. think he might be after more rewards.

Soph I bet he's sabotaging the car so he can get brownie points for fixing it!

Chasing I am absolutely gobsmacked at what you just posted. "A nice half-hour with your XP." You have come so far in such a short time to be able to see him in a good light again. A lot of women in your position wouldn't be able to do what you have done but you are clearly a strong person to have overcome the past and be able to deal with your XP in such an accepting and positive manner and find moments of happiness with him again. Just to make myself perfectly clear... YOU ARE AWESOME.

YY to awesome.

Another one chuckling at Sophias dh here. I also have egg envy. Love a decent cooked breakfast every now and then.

Was just tickling Fs tummy and when she threw back her head to cackle I spied 2 big fat fully through premolars! There may be more but then she got pissy with me for daring to change her nappy.

J says full sentences only he can understand

He has today eaten with a spoon like he has been doing it for years. First time ever with a spoon.

Chasing that is great to hear

Sometimes O sounds like he is saying words. I think it is just by chance though.

His understanding is massively improving this week. He does understand no, even when he chooses to ignore it . He is obsessed with opening the cabinate drawers, and a sharp no, he stops, and closes it again then opens it again, closes it... you get the picture!.

He collected his breakfast off the dining room table this morning, sat himself carefully on the floor, bowl between his legs, and started trying to eat it with the spoon! Cute. But needs more practice yet .

Chasing I have just had a civil conversation with my ex this morning. It was strange. Sometimes I think he doesn't even remember life with me. But to be fair, I don't remember life with him. We were together 8 years FFS! Glad you are off shopping. Love a bit of retail therapy with someone elses money!.

BP I've been scared waiting for the molars! F must have breezed through them!

I do wonder if they arrived along with the elusive 4th front tooth, and were the reason for her temp etc, as she's never had probs like that with the other front teeth. They have clearly bern there a while though!

Stunt. Thank you

Lovely but rainy morning and early afternoon in Germany, savouring my freedom from curfew.

Another post I wish I could like, PR.

Currently pinned by sleeping baby, am starving!!

The pics are just beautiful PR.

The girls are at GPs, J was having a nap, so DH and I have had a lovely hour of naughty nakedness. It is such a long time since we have been able to just relax and have fun. Too long.

Thanks for the virtual coffee. If only I could like the stuff... Real or otherwise. I really feel like it would help.

I am just gathering the energy to put his for back in his own room. Tonight is the start of operation get the fuck out of my bed!

So.... What the hell plan of action do I take?!? I'm up for anything however brutal and will stick to it for a week supported by DH. Help!

Flouncy we got over our sleep ishoos by leaving her to cry. It was awful. The first night was about 8/9 hours with me going back in every 20mins. It took about 2/3 weeks, each night getting less and less. She still cries most nights when she goes down, but sleeps through 99% of the time.

It is difficult and you are doing an amazing job. Xxx

I still haven't heard back from landlady. Now stressing she has done a flit with my deposit highly unlikely I am just utterly neurotic Should I phone or leave it till Monday?

Isles there is no reason to think she would do a runner. Panic not, she may be away or busy.

flouncy I would plan a routine, stick to it and in your case would work along a cc method.

VQ I was going to make a beef stew but there was a change of plan. We went shopping, followed by lunch and a trip to the park. Had a lovely time.

Isles I would leave it until Monday. She might be out.

Flouncy I would try a , method, see if there is any suggestion of it working then roll woth whatever seems the bestbet. CC has worked for F before but wouldn't now. Equally, sometimes the sight of one of us causes untold rage and fury. Suck it and see, as they VQ say.

Flouncy controlled crying worked for us in the context of resolved reflux, diet sorted to remove egg, established bedtime routine, getting J to like his cot by playing with him in there, good daytime naps, stopping using the dummy and stopping feeding to sleep. I say all that to point out that CC on its own wouldn't have been enough, everything else had to be in place as well. J's sleep is a lot better now, he sleeps through (7-6) about two nights a week and most other nights he has one wake up. He still has awful nights of frequent wake ups and requiring cosleeping but they are the exception rather than the rule as they used to be. I'm sure from where you're standing that sounds like heaven. I have noticed a marked improvement in my mood, temper, emotional stability and ability to concentrate; I'm also less tired in the evenings. Where I had a distinct advantage is that DH is not particularly compassionate and he prefers to follow rules to the letter. So saying to him e.g. "you can't go in to settle J for 7 minutes" he would set a timer and wait exactly 7 minutes. Whereas I would be the hysterical mother having to be restrained from going in to my crying baby. IMO the problem with any sleep training is that it usually makes things worse initially. So you have to be prepared for maybe three bad nights where you will have to keep going in. Babies adapt quickly though and can go from a terrible first night to sleep completely sorted in about three nights if all goes well. Do you have any plans for how you are going to tackle J's sleep?

Flouncy I think CC is the way to go. I really do. Cot in his room and go for it.

However, before you start be absolutely sure that his reflux is controlled. Is he on his meds still? Has he got a cold or fever? Teeth activity? Is he possibly hungry? I am sure you have looked at all of these things anyway.

Good luck. We will get the Pom Poms out

And he needs a decent bedtime of between 7 and 8. And he cannot be allowed to sleep in

No advice flouncy but huge hugs.
sophia 2 nights in a row? Oh my goodness.
O had an amazing time with her cousins and grandparents. I am shuttered. Easy day tomorrow for us.o