The 8th Broadly Gemini Bus- The one where the babies refuse to sleep!

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Numero 8!

Hoping for some actual sleep tonight!

Well.... tearing really depends on the perineal support with slow, controlled pushing so that everything has time to stretch. It's a good idea to massage the scar tissue with evening primrose oil(just gently, no need to go crazy) with at the later part of your next pregnancy to make it pliable again. So, I've seen a first timer birth an 11 pounder (I KNOW! ) without a scratch b/c she had a lot of perineal support, she just listened to her body and took it really slow and then I've seen a 4th timer with a pretty small baby tear b/c she just barreled her baby out. I know these are anecdotal, but it's easier to sort of make my point about the circumstances of the birthing conditions.

Lol, don't try to think about it. Maybe next time when you have AF cramps it'll come back to you?

Scary stuff, Lor. Glad she's ok!

I'm down the days for you too Frus

AF hasn't returned yet I need a doula next time!! Told DH tonight randomly blurted it out Bring what are your overseas hiring costs?

I guess that's why they say epidural increases your tear chances because you're not listening to your body and you're just shouted at to push?

I was shouted at to push both times, despite no drugs! They just got a bit tetchy. I tore both times but the second time was less severe! Try to avoid the back of an ambulance as a 'birthing suite' & I'm sure you'll be fine!

I think we all need to co-ordinate future children, with the exception of bring, so we can chip in together & fly her over for a few weeks/months & she can have a lovely tour of the UK while reminding us to breathe! bring, was it May next year you're planning a visit? Something to aim for pear?!

Righto Pear! Plus mums are typically on their backs and there is a lot of added pressure on the perineum.

Oooh, this could become a very lucrative business, me thinks! Yes, May is the tentative date. Excited! Only over a year away... and another year after that to recover from the trauma of taking 3 kids overseas

Seriously, agnu? Au naturale and they are still shouting "push"? Oiy, they just can't leave it alone.

When you see the midwife at your first checkup for DC2 or 3 does she have your labour notes from DC1 or are you expected to remember it all? Some bits of my birth are a blur. I'd like to see my notes or at least talk through my first experience so I've got a clear picture for the second time round. I've only got negative thoughts in my mind which isn't very helpful!

So, going from your experiences Frus and Kitty... You tear less the more you have! God I hope that is true.

I don't think they do pear. You can request for someone to go through your notes with you or just to have a copy of the notes at any time though. I forget the procedure for requesting it! Maybe call your community midwives or your HV - they should be able to point you in the right direction.

Yes Agnu. I had a number to call. I've probably lost the paper but I must call it. I'm sure it will help put my mind at rest. Half of me thinks maybe it's best I don't know :-/ Reading it won't change the lack of support I received from the midwife delivering bpear. I just went into shere panic I needed someone to tell me exactly what was happening, at what stage I was at, how much more painful it was going to get so I knew when to start using gas and I needed encouragement and someone to tell me it was going to be OK. Bring...would a doula provide that level of support or is that really just a midwives job?

Bpear's cold has gone into his chest. Fabulous

Bring ~ how exciting that you've got. 3 births. God knows how you juggle it with M?! 3 more placentas for your basement Do you only ever deliver at home?

And boo to more snow

Today I have achieved...emptying and filling the dishwasher I am the worlds worst housewife lol I had to give bpear a shoe to play with (a clean shoe from the washing machine I'll add) so he didn't cry. Anyone else having tantrum after tantrum yet? He can't cope with me saying NO to anything. Joyous

You can request your file. It takes a while and it costs money, but you can fill in a request form and submit it to the hospital that you delivered at. I think even just calling the hospital and asking for a number to medical records is a good place to start. It would probably be incredibly beneficial and healing for you to know exactly what went down during your labour and birth, Pear! Doulas can definitely provide the encouragement and emotional support. Mums need that continuous support and a presence of someone that they trust when the midwife leaves the room. DHs are great, but they don't always know what's going on and they definitely do not know exactly what a birthing mother requires at any given time! Not to say there aren't fabulous and supportive birthing fathers out there (I've seen some great ones! Mine rocks ) but the expectation for them to be there and to know what to do is a lot of pressure for a guy! Especially when they need help with finding the ketchup, you know? I'm sure there are loads of amazing doulas in your area! You can even start researching them now and interviewing them. No need to be pregnant now to start building a relationship with someone.

No more placentas! I am excused from having to do that lovely task as my sister student in the practice gets to do them (haha!). Yes. Only uncomplicated home births. Anything comes up, we head into hospital.

Woke up to 7 inches. Just when it all finally went away too!

Haha! M throws TTs like a boss.

Also who needs a hoover? I'll start renting M out for the job. She's currently scouring the living room rug for crumbs. and doing a good job, might I add

Oh yes to tantrums. However we also have singing and dancing which is incredibly cute. I love his little made up tunes!

Hello < looks around> sorry didn't realise I hadn't checked in for 3 days, all the effort getting ready for work and planning the first nursery day etc
It's been fine, I've done 2 days, feels long as they are 9 hours and with traveling I leave the house at 6:15 and get home at 5 or just before, by that point although I've missed the girls I'm also knackered and if u have them on my own like tonight it feels hard! Kitten is also not herself and I don't know what's wrong, she's always been an amazing eater but the last 3 days has refused atleast 2 meals out if 3, she had nothing at nursery today but had half her cerial this morning and a yoghurt and rusk when she came in but not much is it! She's got a runny nose but has had it for months and no other signs other then being bloody miserable and keeps lying down on the floor like she's going to sleep like she can't go on very winey I wonder if it was that horrible head ache bug I had?!?
Congrats to your sil lor that sounds so scarey for your poor brother, glad she's ok.
A walker! Well done frusso although I thought he'd be quick, kitten pulls herself up on everything but just stands doesn't move and crawls like the speed of light!
I'm not sure she has tantrums but shouts a lot and screams if I put her down and laughs if I tell her no get away from the fire, put the coal down
Pear I had epidurals but don't think I tore second time, I could feel the contractions though

Kitty ~ bpear did exactly the same. Didn't eat for 2 days and then came down with a cold and now has a chesty cough I'm starting to understand now that when he refuses food it means we need to clear the diary Glad to hear your first 2 days went OK.

I'm on my own tonight. Having a well deserved glass of wine and mars ice cream for dessert!

I'm eating a chocolate chip huge cookie in the bath pear

Oh I'm envious I would eat my ice cream in the bath but bpear would hear me run the bath and wake up so I dare not!

I've decided on the 1st birthday present small present A bubble machine from ELC

Got a development review letter from the NHS today. A list of what bpear should be doing at age 1 and just says we should have him weighed at age 1. Going on the list the only things he's not doing is pointing, waving (although I think he has waved a couple of times) and doesn't say mama or dada (he used to say mama when he cried but he hasn't done that for ages). What a helpful review...NOT!