The 8th Broadly Gemini Bus- The one where the babies refuse to sleep!

[bringonthetrumpets]

Numero 8!

Hoping for some actual sleep tonight!

You never know pear, he might find the different taste sufficiently unusual as to be interesting & want to keep trying it... maybe! Poor little mite! Hope you both manage some sleep tonight!

Frus breastmilk is awesome. It cures everything. Bathe him in the stuff!

Right, just tried to discuss the bedtime issue with DH again. I'm convinced that he needs a consistent bedtime & then will learn to sleep earlier & won't need the long afternoon sleeps. If I restrict his sleep every day he just ends up miserable or hyper by dinner time & it makes everyone more stressed. DH thinks we should stop him sleeping in the afternoon so he'll sleep in the evening. Then asked what his bedtime actually is... Only the same as it has been since we first introduced a bedtime at about 6 months!
I just wish DH would prioritise the DC a bit more. He does so much around the house but regularly works late & bemoans the fact that other people leave on the dot every day & he wishes he could do that but he'd feel too guilty... If he did then it wouldn't matter whether I was feeling up to cooking dinner because he'd be home in time to do something basic at least. As it is he doesn't leave until at least half an hour after he could every day & then faffs about with emptying the dishwasher when he should be just trying to get dinner on the table asap. He regularly takes 1.5 hours to cook something that shouldn't take more than 45 minutes. Tonight I cooked & had planned on emptying the dishwasher while he put Calf to bed but caught him doing it while warming milk for Calf. We only ever put his milk in the microwave for 30s to take the chill off. I have no idea why he thought that was a good time to start emptying the dishwasher!
To his credit though, he was done with his cleaning at 10 tonight! Then we sat down with a cuppa, watched Pointless & argued about Calf's bedtime so we're only going to bed now... Except we're not going to bed because he's gone up for a shower leaving me to sort Runt out &, given that I've not yet heard the shower on, I'm assuming he's picking his spots again instead of getting on with things. Another weird compulsion. He was falling asleep while feeding Runt just before he went up... If I'd not been here to shout at him Runt could conceivably have finished his bottle & decided to go for a little roll. DH was so soundly asleep that I had to poke/shout at him to get him to wake up! It scares me that he's not more vigilant about staying awake with a wriggly baby on his lap! He was sitting with a table in front of him so Runt would've scraped himself!

Pff, why can't men just be perfect?!

Agnu ~ I think you're right, he does need a consistent bedtime. Men don't always understand this concept. I don't even know if my DH understands it or not because we've never discussed it. I just take charge of bedtime because my DH just doesn't do consistency and because I'm the main one looking after him I think bpear feels secure knowing that I'm in charge and ending the day with a fixed plan. I feed bpear milk at 5, solids at 5:30, bath at 6, dress him at 6:30, top up feed 6:45 and bed by 7pm. Could you maybe do a similar schedule so that by the time your DH returns runt has been taken to bed?

It sounds like your all sleep starved Agnu it must feel like fighting a loosing battle, could you leave him to it and focus on you and the kids and see hope he falls into line when your not down to keep him company?
I know what your saying about the hyper thing but I think a lot of children start loosing the nap after 2, for a while tiger would have days of extreme hyper but doesn't anymore, I think she got used to it and had now got used to an earlier night and longer, it is hard for a week or two like it is with trying to implement something with a baby but you will all benifit, you will find he needs a really early bedtime though when he does loose it I'd be aiming to have him in by 7 at the latest he might fight it for abit but only if it's unusual or he's hyper tired I think from the sounds of it you are going around in circles at the moment, he's not going to bed till late so then needs/wants a long afternoon sleep which means he's not tired for later again, I know it's abit twe but the tiger did love the sleep clock aswell, putting the sun to sleep and reading about the grumpy pig who was tired

I know I may be going against the grain here as arguement about cleaning have been band erred around but I can't keep it in any longer, I bought the x5 steam mop ( see infomercial ) I love it!! It is my world, I've been keeping it from you but I've just steralized the kitchen floor in like a minute so easy! I just couldn't hold it in any longer!!!
If your partner wants the place clean demand the x5

See, that's the difference between us kitty My DH bought some sort of steam mop and got all excited about it. He steamed the flat last weekend. We have a cleaner who comes once a week but she was sick last week so DH hoovered and steamed. Love him

Ouch

Great news frus! What makes them question the other ear?
Little buggar with the biting, how quick they learn!

Oh agnu It's so hard to be a team when the team members are fighting. I think because consistency with bedtime routine is a pretty important thing for kids, and your DH isn't exactly on that boat, it might just be a good thing to take charge in that department, like kitty and pear mentioned. Pick a time that you feel would work out for your family (we always did 6:30 when the boys were really young... I miss those days!) and they actually went to bed and fell asleep. Every. Single. Night. We ate dinner, took a bath, put on lotion, put on jammies, read 3 short books, hugs and kisses and then bed. It didn't always go according to plan, but the consistency at least let them know what was coming next and what to expect. Dh always used to call me the bedtime nazi because I was adamant that we stuck to the clock and he would have been fine with putting them to bed at 8:30 without a bath or books (he actually tried this once when I was at a birth and they didn't settle until 10pm! ). This sounds like a really hard time for you. I hope it gets better soon for you!!

Great news on the hearing fruss! I hope the second opinion goes better than the first on the rash.

What is it with horrible bedmates last night? M wouldn't settle unless she was with me and was a little PITA. She kept scratching and pinching and grabbing. It was so mean of her! I've got a big scratch on my nose now That's real attractive!

Kitten pinches and pulls my boobs when I feed her, like she's milking a cow it hurts!
Dh made me laugh this morning 7:01 exactly! Cue tiger I've waked for the sun mummy I've waked for the sun!
Then I want da da I want da da ( never usually calls him that but reverted to baby talk) I get dh and he's trying to get her in bed which she doesn't want, she wants to go downstairs and he said well I'm not taking you down, I say why not? Shed been good, waited till morning? And he was like because I'm all warm in bed lol my answer was welcome to being a parent, tough! Honestly men are so bloody single minded sometimes I'm all warm, yes that's how I feel every morning too!

Hahhah kitty. They're all the same these men! Über frustrating!! My DH just had a meltdown because bpear did diarrhoea on his watch and he didn't know how to cope with it. And when I say how come I didn't have a meltdown this morning when the same thing happened before we left for the doctors he says it wasn't the same. Urgh!! Yes it was!! They always pretend to have it harder then us lol

Bpear is still poorly He's come out with a viral rash around his belly. I'm trying to rest as much as possible when he's resting because I have a horrible paranoid feeling I might be next!

What a day. I think I'm covered in baby snot. a poor little man. He didn't nap that well today either so by tonight he was hysterically tired. I should've managed it better during the day but you make a judgement call and sometimes you're wrong. Typically all of this on a rare night where DH is out. I did DS bath 15 mins early because he couldn't hang on, but Beven then he howled when I was drying and dressing him, and he was so tired he actually wouldn't feed at all after the bath and just fell asleep. He's always ravenous after a bath. After about 15 mins asleep he stirred a bit so I stuck a boob in his mouth and he had some. He woke up about 20 mins later and had a decent feed then before falling back to sleep so hopefully he'll be alright for a while!

Ooh Lor, hopefully he'll sleep through tonight for you! They always find a way to catch up on lost sleep one way or another.

Oh man pear poor little guy! Haha at "poo on his watch" That one made me laugh! I really, really hope that you escape the tummy illness. Sick mummy is so not fun. Especially when bf'ing. Lots of water, zinc, yogurt to hopefully ward off the evil germs!

Hope Little Mr. Frusso sleeps tonight despite his weird nap times! Yes, I think they must have phoned each other and hatched a plan.

Sheesh, what is it with the men in our lives! Must be something celestial that causing them all to become boneheads.

Lor ~ it's so hard getting the sleep thing right when they're poorly I totally sympathise. You end up doing the best thing for them at the time even if it means it will bite you in the bum later

Sleep through. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Up at 11, 12 (feed), 2.40 (feed), 4.15, 6 (feed) and 7 for the day. dh handled 11 and 4 wake ups.

Also I know have a sore throat, as does dh who also has an eye infection.

Ohh that's tough Lor is it the snotty nose that's keeping him awake?

Fortunately we had a better night last night because bpear really needed it! 7pm to 6am. However, we're really back to square 1 with sleep training and I'm just having to put it all on hold and do whatever it takes for him to drift off He's not 100% yet so I can't leave him crying for long.

Was she insisting it's an ape Frus? It's got a tail so it's clearly a monkey!

Standby for my-poor-nipple whinge...