November 2012 - What is going on with these babies?

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He bumboat? Sounds interesting.

J has yet to sleep on his bed. We have been persevering with sleep training this week, but the dairy exposure messed that up. Last night I resorted to having him in bed with me from about 4 as it was the only way I could get any sleep. I think we will try again at 18 months as he just dives off head first at the moment.

Bumbo. The bumbo at.

A bumboat does sound interesting.

Some of my preggers knickers are big enough to be termed 'bumboats'

PR These links contain some quite useful arguments when dealing with skeptics.

Alternet

Grist

Skepticalscience

I usually find asking them which fossil fuel dependent industry they work for also shuts them up too.... Upton Sinclair was very right when he said "It is very difficult to persuade a man of something when his living requires him to believe the opposite" (I have hideously paraphrased that quote...) Or how they are liking their new gas guzzler? People are usually skeptical because it makes them feel uncomfortable / guilty and it's human nature to respond by denying there's a problem.

After cooking a big greasy fry up, DH has taken the bear for a cruise around the local aquarium so that I can get some work done. I'm freelancing watching the speed skating and chuckling when the commentator mentions 'zambonis'. I know her!!!

You know we were talking about envy? My pal from the island is moving down to Fife and seriously considering buying this house. Am mucho envious. some houseporn for a Sunday lunchtime Click and ladies.

Thanks for the links and definitely of the house.

My only real basis for being a non-sceptic are the predictions made in the 80s when I was at primary school and watching them come either true or potentially realistically true iyswim. That and media/press.

I might see if there is a coursera course coming up on the subject.

Very of the house YW

Am currently on the way to London for a day out with DP. This is off the back of 3 of the worst nights in Ls short life. Someone stole my sleeping baby.

DP and I need some time out alone together but at the same time we are both knackered.

Wtf look at that house. It's cheaper then my house! And amazing.

Lily I forgot stress. That too. Diet coke effects my sleep majorly.

stop this jealous chat.
My boys are gorgeous. Other ppl are jealous of how gorgeous they are.

Have a great grown up time pikz despite the tiredness. At least you are both knackered and so you can drift around In A zombie state together rather than one of you bouncing off the walls and the other crawling along the pavement.

Love that house yw though is all in the decor and I thought your house was when you put the details of that on. I am planning for tartan sofas when I reclaim my grown up living room (which actually has a cream wood burner like the one in that house )

Thinking I might give in and actually get some lampshades with stars on for that room, in it's current guise as a playroom,and some bunting.

Sophia I baaaadly want to make some bunting for our bedroom but think dh might see that as one step too far into girly territory!

I think it was pidj who posted a link on fb about the blue/pink toy market. Well have just sold a really very pink peppa pig tea set to a lady for her 3yo son, so stuff you, toy manufacturers!

yw that made me

Shall go now and partake in house porn.

Soph that woodburner is the one I want for our lounge - if I'm right in thinking it's the Charnwood cove in almond? One thing I wanted to ask is - is it a real bugger keeping a cream stove cream? I spent a looooooot of time cleaning the soot off the Rayburn and frankly it got right on my tits. For a lazy woman, would I be better getting the stove in black?

I am loving tartan interior decor at the moment. There is a lady near here who reupholsters old furniture with tartan - she had an amazing telephone seat / settle that would have been fab for putting shoes on / storage in our hallway but it sold like five minutes after she put it on FB and I was vair gutted to miss it. A friend of mine on Orkney makes lovely patchwork throws made out of velvet, silk, tweed and tartan - Jonas and the dog have trashed the silk patches on my one (which I used to protect our pale coloured sofa bed) - so I am saving up for another and am going to ask for it without silk as it just can't handle those two writhing all over it, but I want to use it in the lounge rather than hide it away as I love it. I would love to have the time to really decorate the lounge as I want but freelance is crazy at the moment and I just can't manage it with Jonas around undoing all of my efforts....

Yes, our is the Charnwood in almond. As ours is just a woodburner is not a problem keeping it clean really and they do supply a can of the paint with it so you can go over it once a year or whatever. I clean out both woodburners everyday and clean the glass etc, which seems excessive but because I do this it is only a ten minute job, if I left for a week or so it it would take ages.

YW you could ask her to repair yours possibly? Just replace the silk patches with non-silk? Might be cheaper, and you get to keep your throw.

That house is lovely. Look at the fancy garden furniture!

VQ it's utterly trashed as it was backed onto the silk material too and shreds of it are hanging down where claws and destructive wee fingers have shredded it.

My sister is going to reuse the non trashed patches for a project.

Soph I used to empty our woodburner daily of ash but I'm thinking the almond one might be too much work for a slattern like me. Mindst we wouldn't use it every night. Just chilly ones. I reckon I'll be able to afford the installation cost and everyfink come April. Should I get in touch with suppliers / installers now? I know they can be a bit slow. Mindst at least spring is their quiet season.

I'll photo mine for you on fb.

What a shame YW.

Loving the way that certain words just mean quiche related things now. Nice to hear I'm thought of in that context YW.

VQ it is easy to feel envy, to focus on the "havents" rather than the "haves". I am guilty of this. The little reminders are good for us I think. I must try to be more appreciative.

kyz how is E now?

GT is the "4 weeks" a reference to inlaws going abroad?

pikz hope L's sleep gets back on track soon. Probably as soon as you leave him with someone else.

flouncy when is your trip?

det feeling better?

lily bed guard should work fine as a double. I wedge S in with pillows. If you can't move the bed to the wall, is there anything like a chest of drawers you could put against one side? Might not look pretty but you'll get more rest/peace of mind if you know she cannot fall out.

We have had a lovely day. Zoo this morning including the new baby giraffe, Chinese buffet for lunch, quick visit to inlaws, cake baking and Olympics watching this arvo, and skype with my bro. Lovely.

Evening quiche

Apologies for posting without catching up. Will attempt to do so this evening.

So, the meeting went well - O was a little wary of BF at first (not surprising, considering he is 6'2, with lots of hair and a beard ) but soon warmed to him. I am however, feeling pretty heartbroken this evening. When XP came to pick up O yesterday, O was so excited to see him and when XP left the room for a moment, he cried as if the world was ending. The handover this evening was also pretty traumatic. He screamed so much as he was passed from XP to me. I am finding this whole situation increasingly difficult. The last thing I want is for it to be upsetting for O, but what else can I do? It is important that he sees his dad however much I want to keep him all to myself It didn't help that XP was making little digs this evening - trying to make me out to be a bad parent - and that it appears his mum does a lot of O's care at weekends - including getting up with him this morning so that XP could sleep He has to get up with him one morning a week FFS. Am just feeling irrationally angry that XP does so little, yet gets so much adoration from O and gets to feel like the best parent. Grr.

(((( chasing )))) that must be tough. It is good that O loves XP and is happy when he is with him, that must make being away from him easier to cope with. I imagine O is tired and happy to be home and overwhelmed and sobs because that is a natural reaction. It will be a tantrum when he is older. And you know why? because he loves and trusts you so much that he knows he can, iyswim? It's very tough but I hazard a guess O comes home to where he knows he is safe and secure and sort of acts on it.
DSD (8) still occasionally tantrums as soon as she gets home from a weekend here. Used to do it a lot, rarer now. She has been coming here since she was 3. It's part of winding down, transitioning back home, back with her Mum, emotions. I understand it's quite normal. It certainly doesn't mean anything, DSD loves it here and is very happy and secure in her set up. I guess the idea of future tantrums may not sound reassuring but it is meant to be.

Hugs from me too chasing know how hard it is but remember is good he loves you both for his long term stability. Hang in there. Your bond with him is second to none. Didn't realise your P was a beardy! Excellent. Rugged!

Chasing you're not there to hear (and XP certainly won't tell you!!!) of all the times on XP's day he asks for Mama and I bet its LOADS!!!!!. I'm saddened that that 'man' has his son for one day a week and can't be bothered to get up with him . Keep doing the decent thing now - in the long run O will recognise the real amazing hero of this story. You're not damaging O you are making an amazing wee man - look at how much bolder and happier he is now he's just living with you.

When J is tired he can't make up his mind who he wants cue weepy cries of 'Dada' (gets given to DH), cue weepy cries of 'Mama' (gets handed back) Repeat x 10. . Sometimes they don't know what they want.