December 08 ers still going strong.

[Vagolajahooli]

Hello ladies, can you believe we will be entering into a 6th year of this thread this year?

Kayz do it. We moved alot when I was little and it really didnt affect me until senior school.

I too am very of all Beans village friends it took me nearly 3 yrs of living here to get a small group of friends. They are amazing though and could trust them with my children's lives. Friendships change when you are older and move around. My two closest friends live miles away one of them in the US and we rarely get together and often it can be weeks that we dont talk/FB/text with each other but I would still call them my BFFs.

Kayz I take then that aside from moving the boys school your up for it? If so then do it! How far from your mum & bro will you be? I guess once you pass your test that would help if it's far.

Then do it! sounds like a great move.

Kayz assume I'm for it. How far would you be from your parents. Obviously that would be the only thing. Otherwise you can easy find friends through play groups for DD. Also you know a lot of areas have FIFO parent groups so you might find other parents who'se partners are away a lot to get support from. I wouldn't worry too much about the boys. DH moved loads until he was 16 & he is a very sociable & easy going person. I think it can be a good thing. Obviously we will be moving the boys soon so have the same issues. However we are lucky as we have friends where we are moving to and the boys already know kids there.

Beans maybe I should get a super cheap flight and come for morning tea!

It's about 45 minutes away. XH doesn't mind as I've spoken to him about it, plus he moved away when we split up so he can't really complain.

We'd only move once I'd learnt to drive anyway so I would be bringing them here to see their dad.

Deids, yeah the only worry I have is moving the boys. More DS1 as he's been with his friends for 4 years now.

Kayz def do what's best for you, as down the line that's what's best for the boys too. The boys will adapt, and you're getting your license!!
I still think we need to sort out a central kid free over-nighter so we can meet everyone!

Back from dd's ballet. Feedback is "she's a natural" - Not sure where she gets that from!! I think it's obsession with Angelina Ballerina and her ability to copy!
She'll probably be starting tap after Easter - God help us when those shoes are stuck to her feet at home every waking hour!!

Right, must get sorted for yet another 5 year old soft play birthday party at the same venue yet again. Since ds's we have 4 parties there!

Kayz, I really wouldn't worry about a 7 year old moving school. Kids make friends so quickly. If that is all that stopping you then go for it. Although if you are within a couple if minutes from family at the mo you may find 45 minutes feels quite a lot different.

Beans, so sorry your NCT friend is being a bit crap. I'd give her an "out" from god parenting on religious grounds. Probably she'll say she really wants to be god mum and you will feel better but if she is still v Luke warm at least you will know and not "waste" an important role on her.

It's funny how insecure we all admit we are about friendships yet in real life few people talk about it and everyone seems so socially confident and busy. I have a great group of local friends which I made through baby groups 7 years ago. We hand out a lot and holiday together and all sorts but sometimes I still feel v insecure and get paranoid if I hear some of them have gone out without me. I have v old school friends too but they are in different parts of town. Oddly I haven't any friends from inbetween. Whereas most people have scores of uni mates I lost touch with all of mine for reasons to do with an old boyfriend and I hate to admit that, I feel like I failed the uni social test.

RT, I know what you mean about uni mates. I'm friends on FB with a couple but that's it. Which is odd when you consider that for a few years we were so very close. Then I got married, babies and we just drifted further and further apart. Just before I got pg with DS I met one for a weekend away. But that's it in almost 6 years!!!

Hearty, your uni situation sounds EXACTLY like mine. and I basically resent them for siding with ex boyfriend because he was mentally abusive to me and they knew it, but good fun.
school friends my mainstay and am loving my new friends.

need to post more but DD 3 chewing my hand aand I need to wash it! but Kayz, go for it.

Kayz, I would move if you think it would make your life better. DS will miss his friends, but he'll make new ones. It's a good age to move him.

I have just set up a new thread about my sister. Been worrying about it in the night. Hoping people will be kind. I'm afeared of the wider mumsnet, but put it in Relationships, not AIBU!!

He some sleep last night. No waking children til 7.30 either. And on a Sunday. Theo two things never go together. Still missing DH terribly, but had a lovely email from him yesterday telling me what an amazing person I am for coping without him . He's right, of course. I think he'll be going back and forth to India for the next 4 months during the week. Eek!

Must go, need the loo.

Hope you're all doing ok and enjoying a lazy Sunday. I certainly am. So very windy outside. Will be going scootering when DD3 wakes up. Obviously not her, she'll be in her pushchair!!!

PS DD3 didn't sleep through the night, but nor did she get me up for the day at 4am!!!

....tumbleweed.....

boo! getting up at 5.30 for work I'd over rated.

oh Indith poor you. Yeah I'm not going to miss shift work that's for sure. Early shifts are a killer. When I worked at the QE2 in Bethnal Green, I lived in the nurses quarters. I would get up at 7.25 for a 7.30 shift. I literally would throw my uniform on run a brush through my hair and I was off. I would have a slice of toast and brush my teeth in the nurses toilets after hand over.

Beans how you holding up? Is he home before friday? And now he has to go away loads over the next 4 months that sucks.

Kayz I'm quite excited about your possible move. How would time it with DH's leave. It's a tricky one, you don't want to be stuck doing all the moving. Have you spoken to your mum about it, what does she think?

Almost all my coursework is online for this semester, woot woot. Exciting. The courses don't start until the 24th but I might get a jump on it while I can. One if the subjects has an exam which I have to do down in Rotterdam. The subjects I have chosen this semester are quite interesting and should be quite helpful for the boys with getting them up to speed with where they need to be for english & literacy. In line with the aussie system anyway.

Mum isn't happy about it Vag she says it isn't fair on the boys to move them away from their friends.

I doubt we will move. Neither of us are particularly keen but want a better life for the DC.

Hey Vag, he's back on Weds. Hurrah!

Early shifts sound like hell. I'm so bad in the mornings. And evenings. And daytime. Oh.

My rubbish friend from NCT just rang and couldn't have been more lovely. We had the best chat in ages and I now feel silly for being a paranoid eejit. But I was reassured to hear you all have insecurities too. Sometimes it just feels like you're the only one, eh? But none of you need to, because you're all bloody lovely.

Been for a really long dog walk with DD3 strapped on my front. It was just gorgeous. And the hound loved it too. She's now exhausted.

I just prepared myself a delicious chicken sandwich from leftover roast. Started eating it and feel inexplicably sick. This always happens with sandwiches from shops, but this is the first time with a homemade one. Think I may have to stop eating sandwiches. How depressing. And slightly odd. I love bread, I love butter, I love chicken. Why not the combo?

Kayz, if you're not really into the idea, then stay put.

PS Sybs, are you surviving? Lady, are you out there?

I've just resigned from the local committee for the ball in aid of our Playgroup. I feel really bad, but with DH away a lot for the foreseeable, I just can't see myself having the time to do it. Or the desire, to be honest! DD3 too little really.

Dog has just burped at me. How rancid.

Beans I was the same with sandwiches whilst pregnant, and to be honest now I'm not pregnant, the conditions have to be perfect for me to really enjoy a sandwich. The bread has to be very very fresh, the ingredients completely washed (i once threw up because I was sure I could taste dirt on my salad leaves) and no soggy tomatoes. I think it's a texture thing, I'm quite sensitive to textures, not always in a bad way, sometimes I love a certain texture that other people can't seem to pick up. Anyway, I just find the texture of bread a bit too much sometimes. Give me a yummy soup any day. I also quite like tortilla wraps.

Well done for quiting the commitee, I think everything is too much when you have a teeny one.

Kayz that is a bit unfair of your mum. I once got thoroughly told off by one of the school dads for moving our kids around so much. DH was baffled as moved three countries before he was 16, and he is fine. However, it was obvious it was his own insecurities at not being able to live far from his family. No offence to your mum but I think some peoples criticisms of other peoples choices stem from their own issues. Maybe your mum is worried about not seeing you so much. You have got to decide what is right for you and your family. If it helps with money that is a big plus, but also the lifestyle thing is a big one. As much as I have missed being home now (we were meant to only stay in NL 1 year) I am grateful for the great bonus living here has been for the boys. We have a cheap house so helpful with money, we can cycle everywhere which is great for the boys and we are close to lots of activities that we would have to drive to at home. Personally, I think it can be a good thing for the boys moving school. They learn it is ok to move out of their comfort zone, and making new friends is great for self esteem. They're only young, they will be fine. Plus they have each other.

My mum was moved when she was 10 and she says she still remembers saying goodbye to all her friends. Her brother hated it so much moved straight back as soon as he was old enough.

We moved from oop north to dine sithe when I was 11. Rather liked it because I had/have friends in both places, and family up north too.

DH not back til Friday now... Am definitely glad I have resigned! Aaaagh! Absence definitely makes the heart grow fonder....

Vag, how strange. I think you're right, it must be the texture. The bread was homemade this very morning, so v delicious and couldn't have been fresher.

Although initially a few southerners weren't sure about my scouse accent!!

On beans what an arse about DH not being home till Friday. Your doing great, hang in there!

Kayz you sound like you and DH aren't too bothered about moving either...or is that your mum putting you off? It's hard but if you genuinely feel that life by the coast will be better for the boys then do it...if it's what you both want. I know she's your mum but it's not really her decision. Kids are so adaptable. They will make new friends and it will be quite an adventure for them! I second what Indith said. Make a list pros/cons then you and DH can thrash it out when he gets back.

Kayz I don't know how old your uncle is but there is a big difference between 7 & 10. Having said that DS1 will be 9 when we leave. He has some very good friends here and hopefully he can keep in contact. We are going to set up an email account for him. However, I'll be honest, I don't really see how moving 45 mins could be that detrimental. In Australia 45 mins is just another town in the same area. Obviously, it will mean different schools but the boys could still see their friends.

oh Beans that sucks big jobs. You need some tips for staying sane from Kayz.

Vag he was 7 so the same age as DS1 will be if we move.

I really want that house in this town for the same price. But it would be £80,000 more here.

We have no idea what to do, we can move and live in a house that is big enough for us or stay in this tiny house for another few years.

No brainer Kayz. Move. 45 mins is nothing. I do that just taking DS2 to gymnastics.