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March 2013 - time to wrap them all up in tinsel

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StormyBrid · 04/12/2013 11:21

Old thread here.

worse we're like Plonky on the timings - we keep mealtimes and milktimes separate. I spotted something in Evil Baby Whisperer that suggested around this age milk should be at the time you'd give a snack. Thinking about it, that's pretty much what we do - milk at the crack of dawn, 11am, 3pm and bedtime, food at 9am, 1pm and 5pm. It seems to work, and Fartypants is definitely in the process of reducing milk herself. Those middle two feeds, she's having about four ounces now.

How is the worselet on mush? Does she show any preferences? If we were sticking with baby led weaning we'd be getting absolutely nowhere. Savoury mushes, she'll try a mouthful then get distracted by the cat. Fruit mushes, she practically inhales. For a reduced stress option, can I suggest getting yourself to Asda? They've a hell of a range of cheap fruity mushes, and then at least you're not having to throw away purees you've spent hours lovingly creating.

Incidentally, six month old Molly may love her porridge, but all that means is that Molly's a total weirdo - porridge is vile. It's weetabix all the way round here, with mashed banana in.

eco hang in there, it does get better. How long until 37 weeks for you?

I am thanking my heathen gods we don't have crawling yet. Nappy changes with rolling are bad enough. Especially when it's a particularly horrific one.

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BettyOff · 16/12/2013 16:39

I just nipped to mothercare for a pair of pyjamas or some babygros due to the speed my madam is growing, and they unexpectedly had 20% off....I then proceeded to buy pretty much all pyjamas/babygros/vests in the shop and a bloody expensive car seat all on the spur of the moment!!! Oops and ouch!

Anypants · 16/12/2013 22:03

Oh dear. I spend a little time doing KIT days and making mince pies and I end up two days behind the conversation. I have just caught up so apologies for the delay.

Eco - yes, head East from Befordshire and you're in the Essexey Suffolkey area. Lovely coastline - just featured on that programme David Dimbleby did about the sea. Avoid the bit that fell in the sea last week though.

Yummy - am mildly nostalgic at the mention of those bands and watched the Big Reunion Christmas shenanigans on Saturday. Still love Liberty X and Blue but could take or leave 911. And 3am is not playtime - I too have difficulty when I'm mad before I go in to check then I see DD standing up in her cot, bouncing up and down and end up smiling, but hopefully she can't see. They are the most adorable things but also a pain in the a*se sometimes. Be the boss.

Betty - love an impromptu spendathon, espesh just before Christmas. I get a bumper pay packet on Thursday (25 days holiday + 8 bank holidays - kerching) so I'm going out spending for the last few bits I need (and maybe a few I don't need...)

Worse - builders drilling through walls is akin to fingernails down the blackboard to me. Gah. DH has taken to whistling at DD in a very high pitch (WTF - she's not a dog) and I asked him not to do it as it makes my skin peel off. I'm quite sensitive to noise, it seems.

DD had a little red patch of dry skin (poss eczema?) on her chin but it seems to have faded a bit with plenty of Sudocrem. I suspect she too is teething but haven't spotted any yet. She's been having trouble going to sleep at the mo unless I give her Dentinox but thankfully isn't awake every hour, like my poor Post Natal friend's daughter. Ouch.

In other news, I spent two KIT days with work while DD stayed at home with DH. I thought it would help me make up my mind about going back. It didn't. DD was fine considering it was the first time I hadn't seen her for the whole day. I was fine with getting my head back into a work mode. It all felt a bit wrong though. Got a meeting tomorrow with HR and my Manager to discuss my flexible working hours. I have no idea how that's going to go. In a way, I hope they tell me they're making me redundant and hand me a nice cheque so I can go and make a living out of crochet and photography....

DD is also a puller upper extraordinaire and climbs anything. Me, the TV, walls, log baskets. Thank god for the baby prison.

I'll keep up to date from now on Xmas Blush

Anypants · 16/12/2013 22:07

Oh and massive apologies to those left out but I figured my comments are probably no longer relevant!

Plonkysaurus · 17/12/2013 08:46

Worse I hope you had a good night again and that things can get better. I think the small people go through such huge changes around 9 months that those so-called necessities like eating, sleeping and even pooping are minor annoyances. Plus masonry drilling Though I agree with getting dd to nursery once a week, that's four+ hours just for you and the Worselet gets to learn to socialise.

Any did you feel satisfied by the feeling of working or was it complete ambivalence? I'd totally commission done crocheted goods from you, that hat and booties combo was fantastic. And I rather need some nice photos to hang in my lounge.

We had the nine month check yesterday. On the whole it was fine, he's got fine motor skills up the wazoo, but is on a timetable for gross motor skills (hmm). Am quite miffed though, she attempted to record his length, fully admitted he was too squirmy so she got the wrong measurement, recorded it anyway Hmm and then said they're thinking about abandoning this measurement for under twos. WTAF?! On the other hand she said he's a lovely little boy, so I'll forgive her.

yummychocolate · 17/12/2013 11:42

betty ive fallen for that trick too and spent way too much.

any so you thinking of being a SAHM then? Im waiting for my part time hours to be approved.

Ive just had a wobbly thats not baby related for once. Went to change tyre waited nearly an hour and the idiot workers kept me waiting and saw to the other drivers who were coincidently men! Just sent an angry text to have a go at him that he should have done this. Really i just wanted someone to be angry at and dh got it.

Shatteredmamma1 · 17/12/2013 14:46

Hi ladies
Hope you don't think me cheeky- I'm quite
new to mumsnet and just cottoned on to
the fact there's a post natal thread for March
babies- can I join??! Smile Obviously
you all 'know' each other really well now but
I'm loving the support network here so would
be great to join in. Xmas Smile

StormyBrid · 17/12/2013 15:37

Hello and welcome, Shattered! New people are always welcome, we just don't tend to get many of them these days.

Plonky the idea of a timetable sounds a bit alarming. Is it because he's not crawling yet? Don't worry, DD still isn't either. Although she is getting pretty good at the worm manoeuvre on laminate floors.

Betty I was in mothercare for the first time the other day. So many beautiful clothes! So many expensive clothes! I resisted, but it was difficult.

Right, we are having a nap fail, so I'm going to go for a smoke and hope she's stopped chattering to herself when I get back. Am slightly alarmed that I just heard the sound of a zip unzipping on the monitor...

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yummychocolate · 17/12/2013 16:22

shattered welcome. Love the name!

plonky stormy dont worry about the lack of crawling. Some babies skip that stage and walk instead. Im living proof of this.

I've calmed down and my lovely dh said he will sort out the car at the weekend or after work sometime. Im also less stressed now that i have my turkey. Ive now settled down to watch Little Women.

worsestershiresauce · 17/12/2013 16:22

Hi Shattered welcome! Love the name... pretty much sums up how I feel too Grin

Rubbish night here.... again.... although not entirely worselet related. She was as good as gold until 2am, whereupon she woke herself with a fairly impressive ricochet of farts, and once awake, and having considered her options, decided screaming for some milk was by far the best course of action available. So theoretically I could have slept up until 2am, and after 3am... only I didn't. Grrrrrr. Is there such a thing as being too tired to sleep? If so, I've got it.

Speaking of too tired, I've forgotten to reverse the thread, so have no idea what everyone else has posted. Apologies for that. If I've ignored you it's not because I'm ignorant. It is because I am an ignoramus.

Oh dear someone is very cross. Apparently being left to amuse oneself in the jumperoo for more than 5 minutes is not on. She could have a point there!

Gerry if your mum is at music group tomorrow I will be there.

Gerrythetootallgiraffeswife · 17/12/2013 16:59

Welcome shattered! I was once a newbie here too, very welcoming bunch though! Tell us about yourself!

Someone asked me about my diet. I am not looking skinny. After our weird stomach bug last week I've lost the plot a bit and am all hooked on carbs again. So I'm going to have to detox myself again. Because that was so much fun last time...

So, this morning dd spent an hour at her childminders, after Christmas she'll be there 1 day a week and with mum 2 days. I enjoyed an hour baby free in lidl, but got back to find she had screamed for most of the hour. She was doing those horrid post-meltdown gulps for ages after. Feeling very sad about it.

This afternoon we went to visit a 9 day old baby. I'd forgotten how squishy and snuggly and tiny they are. I'm seriously broody now, helped by the fact that this little one is as well behaved and placid as dd was.

2 days left at work until I finish until 6th Jan. I can't wait to spend some quality time driving round the country visiting relatives with dd and DH. Happy times.

Plonkysaurus · 17/12/2013 17:05

Hi Shattered. I think we have some spare Wine or a Brew if that's more your thing.

Sorry to hear you had at her poor night Worse. And no, it's most definitely not just you, I frequently struggle to fall back to sleep if woken at that time.

The timetable is because he only just passed the gross motor skills bit. He's very happy to sit on his bum, surrounded by toys. If he can't reach them he just sits there nattering away, waving and playing with his clothes. He's beginning to launch himself onto his tummy and make commando efforts but progress is slow, and he's never tried to pull himself up on the furniture.

Shatteredmamma1 · 17/12/2013 17:38

Oh yay. Thanks for letting me join the
party Smile.
This is me...DS is lush but the hardest thing
ever!! Still on mat leave thank goodness.
He is commando style crawling (lazy boy),
not eating much (agh) although sleeping
Is better now he's off the boob Grin

Otherwise he's really chilled which is nice.
The spit of DH which is funny.
What else to tell you??

The reason I asked to join was because it
was nice to see someone (stormy I think)
mention CIO and not get flamed like
everywhere else here! I am gearing up for
that if things don't improve.

BettyOff · 17/12/2013 18:04

Hi Shattered! Come on in, as Plonky mentioned we have booze, caffeine, biscuits and healthy options for Gerry and Wors!

You'll find that between us we've tried bloody everything. There's CC/CIO, no cry sleep solution, cuddling, rocking, feeding, pleading and bribery. We also have a healthy mix of sleep refusers, food refusers, very mobile, very chatty, placid and bloody high maintenance.

My one is gorgeous but bloody hard work and I'm pretty sure she'll never sleep.

Today I've mostly been trying not to kill the dog. Between the plumber (we're having the kitchen done), the window cleaner, the postman and another delivery guy she's done nothing but bark like she's rabid all day. Hmm

StormyBrid · 17/12/2013 19:09

Ah, we can't do flaming over CIO - we already lost all the people who were vocal about the heinous wickedness of letting a baby cry for more than 4.7 seconds during the Controlled Crying Incident back in April Grin.

Plonky with the not pulling himself up, is he ever left next to suitable bits of furniture? I ask because DD hardly pulls herself up at all, but has demonstrated she's perfectly capable of it when next to the right bit of furniture. My collapsey sofa just doesn't quite do the trick. Anyway, probably you've just got a pretty chilled baby. If he's happy with what's to hand, why try to get at anything else?

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StormyBrid · 17/12/2013 19:11

Also, be a dear, Plonk, I need a hand unlocking the next episode of Candy Crush.

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Plonkysaurus · 17/12/2013 19:32

Stormy you may be on to something. None of our lounge furniture is conducive to him pulling himself up. May have to rejig somewhat. Will check candy crush later Grin

Did someone mention the controlled crying incident? shattered we do what we have to to get by. How very un martyr mumsnetty of us.

Gerry sounds like you'll be getting a nice long break. Detox/resetting is never fun, but you've been doing so well. Everyone's allowed a relapse now and then. I've plateaued thanks to the lure of fruit and nut chocolate but am trying to reign it in. I keep trying to tell myself that ten weeks of proper low-carb paleo-y diet should mean I get the wedding dress i want. I'm eagerly awaiting the emergence of a gap between my somewhat thunderous thighs.

XmasPudtat · 17/12/2013 19:43

Hi Shattered! Like others love the name Smile.

Plonky glad we've not had our check then Blush. No crawling (just assuming the position and rocking while wondering why he's moving gently backwards Wink) no walking/cruising. No pulling up, though Stormy may have a point re suitable furniture. Even his sitting is hit and miss - he's fine until he wants something or gets distracted and then he flings himself topples over. However he talks non stop, has a pretty good pincer grip coming, and is currently the happiest baby most of the time which is great.

ecofreckle · 17/12/2013 20:02

welcome shattered! I would like to think that each of us are making the best choices for ourselves and our baby and no one can quibble with that really. no one has flamed me for being a cloth nappy still ebf no TV hippy nor have they judged when I whisk ecobaby off on non baby friendly trips and let her play quietly whilst I clean the house. this thread is a nice place to party. where in the world are you?
worse hugs your way. I too was woken by baby and failed to sleep again last night. it must be the time of year with lots on our minds. dh been in London all day so plodding on with the fatigue it is. not fun eh? does your dh get a nice long break over Christmas so you can recharge a bit? is food still good and how is eczema?
plonky bloody aldi ran out of Vouvray! bloody cheek. I got something non french instead. I know bugger all about non french wine so it will be an education. remember you cannot see your thighs in a wedding dress so dh will be only one to appreciate the gap Wink
any did your work prefer you to take pay for your holiday rather than take it? useful! how is your dh at the moment? I know he has been a bit pesky in the past so hope all is well. nice to hear from you.
yummy have you had a Brew now after your tyres? sounds naff.
stormy so ministorm has bypassed crawling and gone straight to walking? classy! crawling is do undignified...my girl is filthy by end of the day. maybe I should get the mop out.
Betty was the next car seat on a minefield? what advice were you given?
an evening of making Christmas cards awaits ahead of last posting day tomorrow for second class. nothing like leaving it til last minute.
I may make dh endure 'the holiday' whilst I do it. that has become a tradition. the holiday one year and love actually the next. seasonal background noise. let the poor taste flaming begin!!
oh, and gerry, sorry you were Sad so many friends went through this and two years on when it came to child leaving cm for nursery the tears were about leaving the cm who they love! temporary adjustment stuff I am sure. fingers crossed for better next time. time for Wine?

Shatteredmamma1 · 17/12/2013 20:12

Thanks for the name appreciation ladies
Grin plonky and betty thanks, it's
definitely Wine time so thanks for the offer.
Although I am mainlining caffeine at the
mo. You seem like a nice lot of non judgy
ladies!!
I also struggle with the getting back to
sleep worcestershire -annoying isn't it?!
My latest trick is waking up at 4.30 and
being unable to get back to sleep even if
mini shattered is asleep!!
Don't worry about the 9month check, they
all develop at such different rates and are
better at some things than others- we are
there too with the lack of crawling but he's
a cheery little soul and I'll take that any
day over a crawling grump!!! Xmas Smile

Shatteredmamma1 · 17/12/2013 20:38

eco I love the hippiness.
And thanks for the reassurance. I'm doubting
myself much less these days --thrown stupid
Gina Ford out the window months ago--
. I'm in the Southwest (of England!) anyone
nearby?

ecofreckle · 17/12/2013 20:40

oh! I think pud is nearby! a south west meet up perhaps!!

XmasPudtat · 17/12/2013 20:58

Yep SW here.

Mad mix of cloth wearing and no tv (for DS at least) and being back at work ft since 6.5 months while dh took over here. Sort of working...

First taster nursery session Friday so we'll see if there's Hmm here then. Hope not...

BettyOff · 17/12/2013 21:13

Plonky we got crawling and cruising all on the same day last week, it'll just suddenly appear! Plus I never crawled and just suddenly walked at 11m. I'll swap you a mobile baby for one that sleeps and takes a bottle?

Eco, car seat shopping wasn't too bad. I knew I wanted a rear facing one DH is a shit driver so every little helps Wink and our mothercare only stock 5 & 2 are too big for our car so I got them to try the others in the car and picked the one that was tallest for our lanky lady and still let me get my seat back enough for her lanky mummy. I saved about £60 so definitely worth it. They did also tell me that if you give your email address in store and sign up for their updates they send you a 20% off voucher for baby's first birthday so probably worth it if any of you are car seat shopping then.

Wors I have complete sympathy. Madam was up from 2.50-5.10 after a feed and a couple of hours of stand up, mummy lie down and repeat. I'm off to bed now & fingers crossed for better tonight and for you too!

Stormy I'd completely forgotten the April CC debacle! I might even scroll back just for old times sake!

intherainbow · 17/12/2013 21:21

Hi shattered! We all definitely have very different styles here - I am a full on attachment parent, baby wearing, full term ebf and co-sleeping and cuddling all night long type (and loving it!). Lots of happy babies all round from us all which is what is ultimately most important.

eco sorry it has taken me a while to get back to you on the breastfeeding question. We are actually down to a first thing in the morning feed (between 5-7am), a bedtime feed at around 6:30 and then another between bedtime and midnight. I think DD sometimes has another feed in the night but I'm not really aware of these - I guess DD could actually be feeding more at night while I sleep through it as she has access to the breasts all night long. However her natural daytime weaning has been down to the fact she consumes so much actual food - we are on three full large meals plus one to two snacks a day now by demand and everything gets eaten pretty much!

DD has become so much fun in the last few days - she smiles and laughs at everything, points at objects constantly and loves reading books. Currently a joy to be with - long may it last!

somethingbeginningwith · 17/12/2013 21:24

Hi shattered sounds like you'll fit right in with the love of Wine

This cc debacle in April...i wasn't here for that but plonk has told me. Grr. We're definitely a non-judgy lot and it's so lovely to be able to talk about anything and everything knowing that there is support.

eco I love the idea of your crafty nights, I wish I had the skills!

We had our HV check up today. New hv and she was lovely, DS is hitting all his milestones except the one where parents put tiny beads in plastic bottles for babies to try and get out...? Wtf? Apparently it's an American thing they're trying to introduce. Anyone heard of it? Well, we don't do that so he didn't get full marks for that one. She did say that walking looks imminent, which is terrifying.

And I'm on my phone so can't remember what anyone else has said, so sorry Blush hope all babes and mums have good nights tonight Smile