Jan 2013: Part Six. Part SIX!

[Angielka]

As I so frivolously finished the last thread, I thought I'd better start a new one. Go!

Yay Bunty!!!!!

Mrsbugsy & poly sorry your LOs are poorly, lots of snuggles today, hope they are better soon

Also very worried about cupcakes

Welcome back willow!

That's great bunty!!

Really hoping cupcakes is ok too.

I still wonder how things turned out for tinkle as well, I wonder if we'll ever find out.

Sorry for the poorly babies too, hope they feel better really soon.

Yes 'hurrah for tits' has got to be our next thread title, I love it. Whoever starts the next thread needs to remember!!

Hi all,

Hope poorly LO's feel better soon, it's awful when they are not well :(

Well, my LO is still waking 3 to 4 times in the night and my DH's female colleagues have suggested we give him water rather than milk to see if that stops him waking? What does everyone think? I have no idea what to do as he is such a contented little thing that I'm sure it's not teeth, I think he is just waking, realising we are not there and if he decides not to self settle, he cries! Little monkey....not great when work is busy too, am convinced I could sleep at my desk most days. On a positive, he seems to be settling at nursery a little better and so far hasn't brought any more bugs home apart from a snotty nose which I can cope with!

Hope everyone has a good weekend and feel free to share your sleeping tips!

X

Hi everyone, thank you so much for your support. To those of you that have pm'd me - I really appreciate it. I have read all of your messages and will try to answer them when I get chance.

Saw the gp today and was told I have pnd. Starting on anti depressants tonight and am bedding down in DS' room so at least I don't have to go far when he wakes.

newbie my sil did the water thing and said it worked very quickly. I have also heard of people gradually watering down formula over a couple of nights.

cupcakes I'm so glad you've been to the gp, did you find it helpful? Have they offered any counselling or practical help? Been thinking about you and I'm sending you lots of love. Wish I were nearer so I could come and give you a big hug. Xxx

tugs I have an appointment with their councillor in a few weeks. I guess it was helpful. Scary, though.

I bet it was scary, you've done so well. Good idea to stay with DS tonight and rest up a bit more.

Don't worry about replying to my PM unless it's to say I can help in some way, just focus on looking after yourself

Well done cupcakes. I hope you're back to feeling yourself soon x

Hoping the sleep lady has worked her magic for you bunty

newbie, I've heard of the water thing too but I'm yet to try it.

Had her first haircut today :( she seems much too little to have had it cut, but it was just her fringe because it was in her eyes all the time.

Does anyone else's LO drink they're bath water?! Nancy has started dipping her face in and having a little drink (before any bubbles go in)

Sleep lady was shit.

Took us 2 1/2 hours using her approach and I don't agree with most of her points, which are as follows:

1. She is too old to have a feed before bed, latest breastfeed should be 4pm
2. She shouldn't feed during the day at all
3. I'm feeding her for me not for her, and it's just comfort (btw what's wrong with comforting your baby?)
4. She can't possibly be tired at 7:30 when she woke up from last nap at 4pm (she was shattered)
5. Should play with her in her cot whenever she stands up - oh yes, let's stimulate the non sleeping baby (Wtaf)
6. Any day time naps take away from night time sleep so don't let her sleep too much during the day (she sleeps more badly at night if she doesn't have at least 3 hours over the day)
7. Don't let her sleep past 3pm
8. A child will never self wean if you don't stop giving them a feed before bed

That's all I can remember just now. Honestly. Everything she said flies in the face of current recommendations and my parenting style. Ugh.

Bunty WTF? Where's the common sense in what she told you?

1. Er, no. Mine is still having BF before bed AND dream feed at 1030.
2. Bollocks Of course she does. Why not?
3. Bollocks x 2. NHS guidelines till 12 months!
4. Bollocks x 3 Of course she can! Mine is always pooped by 7!
5. Bollocks x 4 Durrrr...obvs not! Is she mad?
6. Mmmm ish. I don't let F sleep more than 3hrs in the day.
7. My personal rule is 5pm but no more than 20 mins.
8. Dunno, he's my first!

I can't offer any remedial help as F sleeps all night - I do the same stuff at the same time every day, and over time he started going out like a light at 7pm. But I still BF him 1st thing, 3.30pm, 6.45pm and I wake him for feed at 10-10.30.
I probably could drop a couple of them now but I don't want to "break" him! He sleeps!

Cupcakes you poor thing, but I'm glad you are feeling better and have seen someone.

Poly HURRAH FOR TITS!!!
Though my hairdresser doesn't think so. When I said I still BF Felix she screwed up her face, said he was almost a toddler now and that "it's a bit wrong" and then went on to ask if I was doing it for me or for him. BITCH!

cupcakes so pleased you have a diagnosis and a real chance for things to improve very soon.

That makes me so angry octane - anyone who thinks bf is wrong at this age is weird. Ugh, am in a bad mood this morning.

bunty what a pile of utter shite. How worrying that this is the kind of stuff she recommends. The only thing I've found to work is sticking to exactly the same schedule of feeds and sleeps every day, and even then it takes one or two weeks to see if it will work. And even then I'm still up for an hour every night, but that is just about manageable. Have bought yet another book though but it looks very good, I will find it and let you know the name. I know you've tried everything but at some point something will work. In the meantime, . Why is there no hug smiley??

newbie I found watering down milk to work with DD1 but I was formula feeding. But try just water and see how it goes. I would do that but I'm still bf to sleep in the middle of the night.

Am in a mood as I was awake for 3 solid hours from 3-6am and then X woke for the day. And I could have been asleep. Bodyclock screwed. Anyone else got insomnia from 3am as well?

To end on a happy note, the sun is shining here and I have profiteroles! Anyone got anything nice planned?

Grr Ivy did something to my phone which sent my keypad wierd, had to fix before i could post!

bunty sorry sleep lady was shit. She sounds awful :( i would second octane and birdies that doing the same thing at the same time seems to help.

cupcakes really hope this is the start of things improving for you.

Ds1 off with the cubs this weekend which just leaves me with 2 lots of homework to fight about preside over!

Ds2 managed to drop a wriggle Ivy more or less onto her head this morning, was horrible. He was really upset bless him. So once Ivy had been picked up i had to spend ages telling ds2 not to worry. Tbf she fell off the sofa last week when i wasn't watching her properly so it canhappen to any of us. She seems fine but has another cold and has started.coughing loads poor thing!

Bunty, what a crock of shit, hope you asked for your money back!

Hope all the poorly babies are feeling better?

DP is out with his mates for "a couple" of pints don't expect to see him home until the early hours
I'm sat on the floor with the VAT return staring back at me, ahhhh the rock n roll lifestyle I lead

bunty she sounds like she doesn't know what she's talking about!

Sorry if you've already tried this, but we used some ideas from the no cry sleep solution which seemed to help with dd's sleep. It is written from a breastfeeding, no controlled crying viewpoint, which might suit you?

cupcakes how are you doing today?

Dd is still poorly and is completely miserable with it. If she is awake she is either bfing or crying. She is also off her solid food, the only thing she will eat is bananas.

bunty I'm really sorry, it must have been so disappointing I find NCSS good too but you do have to construct a plan from the many ideas. Fwiw I'm doing the Pantley pull off (working v well), bedtime routine and lovey. Will also try reducing the length of her night feeds once she's over this cold (cold, again?!).

Cupcakes so pleased you went to GP and have been taken seriously. Day at a time stuff. Massive massive hugs to you and do stay in touch xx

Bunty that's shocking! Bottle fed babies all have a bedtime bottle so why wouldn't a bf baby be allowed milk at bedtime?!

It probably isn't anything you're doing or not doing anyway. I've given up on thinking I have any sort of influence on LO's sleep. He slept through the whole week he was poorly which makes me think he is just naturally hyper. When he can walk I will take him to the park for hours and see if that works. I am also assuming that an 8 hr day at nursery will tire the poor sausage out and make him sleep :(

Apples LO took a header over the guardrail in bed this morning, I managed to grab onto his trouser cuff and he missed the floor by about an inch! Luckily his trousers didn't slide off!

Ivy clearly not well :( poor thing allmucusy and keeps coughing and crying. Its horrid to see. Not too keen on food either so keep offering boobs. Has worn herself out coughing and asleep in my arms now :(

Ds1 back from cub camp with a ton of washing

Hope everyone else ok

Meringue that is whay dungerees are for

Hello All

Dropped off for a while so need to catch up. Cupcakes briefly saw you have been diagnosed with pnd, I hope things improve for you and sending massive hugs.

Horrendous week here, DD1 and I got the vomiting bug was horrific with DH away but thank god for friend and mum school mum DR coming to my rescue I managed to avoid going into hospital with severe vomiting and dehydration. Never been in such a panic!

All ok now though and DH is back and even better mil is now back tomorrow role on babysitting duty...

Other news DD2 is taking lots more steps but still not worked out how to stand without pulling up. Sleep is back up shit creak and she is going mad for BF at the mo anyone else having this?

Right off to read what havoc these little monsters have been causing ....

apple hope little ivy feels better soon. And lost that sounds awful. I'm so tempted to hide away next week as we're all (hopefully) just about over colds after weeks and weeks and I don't want them to get anything else!

bunty and cupcakes hope you are both doing ok.

Question for everyone - X isn't attached to a cuddly toy yet, is that unusual? There's a comforter thingy in her cot but she's never been bothered with it. Am I meant to encourage her or do some babies just never bother with a cuddly toy?

And is anyone's baby feeding themselves with a spoon yet? Is it 12 months when we're meant to start teaching them?

birdies Ivy has a snuggly bunny she loves as ears are perfect teethers in fact she has 2! Ds1 has a favourite teddy now but wasn't bohered til he was about 3, dd1 has different favourites according to mood roll on her teenage years and ds2 has an old battered monkey which used to go everywhere but is now too old and precious to leave the bedroom! I usef to have nightmares about losing that monkey..which is why Ivy has 2 bunnies :)

Think my others started using spoons themsrlves around 1.
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lost poor you, thats horrible. I always worry about getting sick after all 5 of us webt down like really grim dominoes a few years ago. Hope you're ok

Sorry my last message had so many typos..must preview!

Hi all, we're doing ok - just getting through one day at a time. I'm feeling grumpy today as none of my work clothes fit, everything just hangs off me and I can't afford to buy more. I look ridiculous.

DS also doesn't seem overly attached to anything except me. He does have a taggy blanket which he seems to quite like, but doesn't search it out.

Cupcakes, good to hear your ok, one day at a time. Ps I have a few extra pounds you can have but on a serious note please take care of yourself and make sure you eat well

Apple hope Ivy is feeling better soon

Lost glad to hear your both on the mend, and yay for MIL babysitting wish mine would

Wow it's been quiet on here! cupcakes glad you are taking things slowly. I'm sure you don't look as ridiculous as you think you do. How are you doing today?

How are the poorly babies doing?