November 2012 - Babies are getting busy, busy, busy

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1858262-November-2012-In-which-the-babies-start-to-reach-their-first-birthdays

GT I think as long as you mix bottles with breast they can cope. It's when you favour bottles that they become 'lazy'. One bottle in several feeds won't, ime, do any harm. But if you switch to one breast feed in several bottles they will prefer that option. Switching to bottle was always my priority, so I favoured that. But as long as you want him on the breast and ensure he takes from the breast most of the time and don't offer bottles systematically with each feed then he will favour the breast and top up with bottles when he really needs it. It depends on how long you want to breast feed for. Ebf for several months needs regular bf'ing for longer than a few weeks, of course.

I'm just saying that mix feeding can work. I did it with DD1 for several weeks and would have continued if I hadn.t been ill. With LO I wanted her to have breastmilk but not on the breast asap. But that was my choice. Not hers.

It hard when you're so sore gt I remember it well. I had a terrible time feeding James at the start. It took quite a while to fix our problems. With the tongue tie I imagine you're going through worse. We'll done on managing a week, that's fab. If you want any more advice or have any questions then feel free to PM me.

Sophia we have a party on Sunday and his actual birthday is on Monday and we are going to a museum and going to eat cake. GT very well done on the bf. you are doing amazingly. I was very sore at the start, but it does get better. Are you using a nipple cream. I can't remember the name but there's a really good one. Will find the name and post it on here later. I have a huge headache keeping me awake. Prob shouldn't be looking at the ipad.

Chick lansinoh is the fab nipple cream.

GT you're doing amazingly am sure after having his TT cut on Monday you'll both feel the difference in feeding. He'll be much more efficient and gain weight easier and you'll be much less sore. A week is still early days - you're both still learning. Well done xx Are you putting distilled witch hazel on maternity pads? That really helped my sore nether regions, as did getting my stitches cut (don't know if you've got any). When do you decide A's name?

Gt - can't believe your mw. Outrageous that she wouldn't help you this time because she thought she did last time! I bf dd for well over a year and still found it hard again to start with with g. Glad you are getting the tt looked at Monday but very sorry you have to wait that long. I am with pr that some bottle top ups if you feel you need them won't ruin everything. I think you are doing so well - this early stage when everything hurts is just really hard. Don't beat yourself up whatever you do feed wise - you are doing brilliantly. I found calendula cream helped the stitches too.

Stunt - I am assuming you want a dyslexia assessment rather than statutory assessment? If you wanted a stat assessment you could request that yourself by writing to the council? The school cannot impose a limit.

Yw and det - fab news on the cmpi front! I accidentally had a sip of my mum's coffee last week with milk in and g suffered. So no more trailing here for a while.

Hugs for the weekend chasing. I say get out for some walks and also do some online dating...

Apple - poas! X

Ffs what's the obsession with top ups, expressing, ozs, etc? Bf babies don't follow a smooth curve. They eat and gain at their own rate. Trust your body and trust your baby. 2oz is shitloads to express, what you need to do is sit on your sofa with a huge pile of fruit and snacks healing and feeding! And the fucking health professionals should know this very basic stuff! he's a week old, feeding sleeping and producing wet and dirty nappies. You think he's fine, that's good enough.

worst night of the week and we've had pretty bad ones in the passt 7 days. She was up at 10, 11, 12 and in bed with me for an hour at 1 than back in her cot till 6.30. I desperately need to study but am so exhausted. We are at my mum's so at least they are dealing with her at the moment.

Lovely mummy moment pr I loved reading it

Hugs lily I hope you manage to get some studying done today.

Off to finally order the carpet for S's room today, then it will be finished at last. Can't wait to get her back in her own room. She ended up in with us for an hour to get her back off to sleep again last night. I'm glad that she at least transfers relatively easily.

That's wonderful pr you will treasure it forever.

Woohoooo I managed to sleep laying down! Ok so A was in bed with me. But I didn't sit up holding him all night. Surely that's progress.
Nipple shields have made is easier to feeding while laying on my side.

On another note. FH n I keep snapping at each other. He wants to give A formula top ups. Because he hasn't put on weight. I'm now worried that come Monday if MW says the same we will just argue over it. Obviously I don't want my baby to be hungry.
But he has just had a 40min feed. He has done off the boob looking so relaxed with milk all over his face. Lol. I feel like I've finally got it sorted but if he doesn't gain weight in two days FH wants formula.

GT I'd tell FH to fuck off and support you on this for another fortnight then if he's still not gained - you will think about it. BF is a confidence game and he's undermining yours

GT you're doing so well, well done. There was a big difference in Fs feeding after her tt was cut. Also, she only stopped losing weight at a week old, and I don't think she regained her birth weight until nearly 3 weeks (admittedly she did lose 12% of her birth weight). At no point was I told to give her top ups - I find it such bizarre advice. She just suckled and fed, on demand, until she regulated the milk supply.

Sorry the sleep dust didn't work. Must have been out of date It also epically failed in our house too.

PR lovely moment, we'll remind you of it when dd1 is being a terror next time!

Chasing I meant to say yesterday that, in your shoes, I would shut the curtains, get some and and watch the boxset of the BBC pride & prejudice. Indulge yourself.

gt I was told the same although my milk didn't come in till day 10 (retained placenta). They wanted to readmit O at 5 days as she lost 12% and told me that either that or I had to give her top up. I chose the latter and she never had a breastfeed after without top ups. I know it was for the best as at that stage we didn't know I had no milk but I feel so sad for not being able to breastfeed her exclusively. At 5 months she preferred the bottle and sadly I stopped breastfeeding. If you have milk than pls don't let FH to top him up with formula against your wishes.

Probably irrelevant to you GT but when my MW came out the first time after babylaughalot was born, she weighed her and because she'd lost more than they allow she rang the hospital for us to go in and get checked. Only then did she consider reweighing with the scales on a table surface (rather than on the carpet as before) and lo and behold the reading changed and was no longer considered a problem.

I then had to ask every subsequent MW who came out and started setting uo their scales on the floor, to weigh using the table instead. It seems daft but such a small difference made such a big difference iykwim.

Breast milk has more calories. Giving formula top ups for weight gain is like feeding them gruel instead of yoghurt. Both nutritious and filling but you need a lot more gruel for the same calorific value!

Exactly BM contains more calories and nutrients than FF. God those evil corporates have done a great job marketing their products that we doubt an amazing, obesity and cancer preventing biodynamic food perfectly designed for baby humans that puts them to sleep at night time and wakes them up in the morning in favour of dried cow's milk. Remember what my HV told me - he is not a prize marrow - bigger and fatter isn't actually better long term - a natural growth rate is much healthier.

your post really made me smile gt . for me there is,no greater feeling than seeing a sleepy happy baby with milky lips you are doing everything right. stick to your guns and point your DH in the direction of some bf websites. he may just need to feel a bit more informed.

Y still thinks sleeping at night Is for wimps. trying to sleep train but its so difficult working too. its a good job he is so cute.

oh bargain shoppers alert. mothercare have 20% off all their toys and books this weekend.

And as a teacher GT you will have an amazing immune system that you can pass onto A through your milk. With a toddler in the house and the cold and flu system approaching - ask FH if his top ups can do that?

I can make out a very faint line. Shit.

Handed O over to XP with minimal conversation and declined his offer to wait for my bus with me Now on my way to the shopping centre to buy a screwdriver and no doubt go to Costa Proper independent woman, me.

Cross post apple. I'm here for handholding x Can you get hold of a Clearblue digital? No squinting for lines, just a pregnant/not pregnant.

Crikey apple yes get a digital one.

chasing you're awesome

Faint line means positive Apple. Definitely get another test.

Eeeeek Apple.

How do you feel about it?

Get a digital. I spent days faffing looking at feint lines.

Congratulations apple

I have just found out that Next have opened up their clothing catalogue to the French market with free delivery. Bye bye money. I hate the overpriced dull children's clothes over here.