November 2012 - The first fearless steps and the rest of us hoping our babies remain stationary for a bit longer

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Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1833979-November-2012-Teeth-Dont-talk-to-us-about-teeth

Massive smile stuck on my face too now chasing - he could also become your best friend and your husband :)

I'm thankful for the chocolate biscuits i ate on Tuesday and the lack of reaction from R

Oh apple I have nothing more to add - but I hope some of what ginge said last night struck a chord, and I hope you get some help as soon as possible.

Izzy what happened with last night in the end? Sounds as though it was really tough

Chasing

Last night F woke up at 4 and was screaming like a banshee. 2 days ago when I collected her from nursery at lunchtime I saw her eating pizza. With cheese on. I presumed cheezley, as they know know know she can't have soya. But kept an eye anyway. She was fine Tuesday afternoon, Tuesday and Wednesday bedtimes have been hellish and we've had lots of wakings (although she has self-settled until last night), plus farts that put dh to shame. Turns out it was the lacto-free cheese ie, soya based. I;m not cross as it's the first time it's happened in 2 months, plus means I don't have to worry about challenging anymore. She only had the tiniest little morsel of it, but even so, probably not so dramatic a reaction as she had to soya in bm 3 months ago. Progress.

I am thankful for dh. And F. And the good health of those I love.

I spoke to DP last night about how desperate I'm feeling and the urgency in sorting this out. He hadn't realised at all and promised to work with me. I talked him through my plans about a structured bedtime routine and weaning C off night feeds so now he is fully aware of what I'm doing and why. DP was on night duty last night so I did manage to get some sleep. There is another GP at my surgery I wouldn't mind seeing. She's not much older than me, very friendly and understanding and has recently returned from maternity leave. However, neither she nor the other male doctor I want to see have any appointments available until next thursday at the earliest. Getting through each day is a struggle and that seems forever.

Apple would it be worth phoning every morning between now and then, to see if there have been any cancellations? Plus some appointments are only booked on the day. I'm glad you've spoken to dh and managed to get some sleep xx

Have you told the GP it is urgent apple?

Help!

I decided to try O with tomato. Cut a cherry one in quater. He sucked on it a tiny bit but didn't like it anyway. So not sure how much was ingested.

No skin reaction so far but instead he is screaming like a banshee and can not/ will not sleep.

Tearing hair out. He is just beside himself.

Is this a reaction? If so what?

I'm thankful I'm still at home and haven't ended up in the Mother and baby Unit again.

Well it was horrific, worse than that in fact. He did not stop screaming. He screamed from 11.35 til 1.20am with only small breaks for air! We gave in at that point. I was on another FB group I'm in with mums I've met online when I was expecting DD. Two of them were online. I honestly thought he would go to sleep. He didn't. It was awful. I went in at 1.20am picked him up cuddled him and burst into tears

I don't know what to do now. I've likely made things worse by caving but it was 1.20am and I'd had lost sleep at all. Dh gets up at 7 and DD at 7.30am! He slept in our bed.

I need it sorted.

Maybe causing him some tummy pain?
At least you know his airway's ok
Calpol.
Milk?

Good luck.

I am bored.

X-post izzy. Perhaps try again tonight? I used to get F to self-settle at the beginning of the night, then rock her or bring her into ours after the first night-waking. Gradually the interval got longer and longer. Have some xx

Thanks bp it's times like this I wish I liked coffee

Is it worth trying it all again? What if the same thing happens? Am I then not making him think if he screams and screams I'll eventually give in?

I'm so sorry to hear it Izzy. You haven't made it worse. I would have done exactly the same. Just keep going with the bedtime routine and as bp says maybe give the cc a break, bring him in when he wakes. I wish I could wave a magic wand for you.

Apple I think from how you were last night this is now urgent. A few years ago I had some serious mh problems and in the end DH went down to the doctor and demanded an appointment. I am not even sure if I went with him tbh. I think he went and said I had to be seen today and they managed to find a window somehow. It may be worth getting a HV or other hcp on side too. Sorry you are going through this.

Izzy I'm inclined to agree with JJ. You need to have a mental steeliness to not cave in if you're going to do CC. I don't have it and figure that I'll only reinforce a belief that if he cries long enough I'll cave. Agree with the suggestion to stick with bedtime routine and miss the CC out for another couple of weeks. But I'm sure you can't do this for another few weeks. I'd be seriously contemplating hiring a professional sleep consultant.

We had a shit night too (but know its nowt to what you're going through). His top teeth are close to cutting through. I knew it was going to be bad so went to bed at 9pm and sure enough from 4.30am we both took turns trying to get him to sleep for him to finally nod off at 7.30am. Tonight he will be calpoled! And we're both off to bed at 9pm and splitting the night into two shifts between us so we both get at least 5 hours. Could you and DH do similar?

I have a feeling the bear's first teeth are going to coincide with bringing the puppy home. Argh it's going to be Sleepless in Kirkcaldy I fear!

LO is 11mo today Which means that in the next few weeks we'll be having the first birthdays for Evil and also for the twinsets who were both a little early iirc. What a year this has been!

It is four months since teeth one and two came through and there are still no signs that teeth three and four are imminent.

We can split the nights just now which may help but I just want him to sleep now!

Amazingly he fell asleep about half an hour ago and I put him in his cot.... He's still there DD starts nursery at 1pm tho so he can't stay there that long, he's never stayed asleep in his cot during the day....

I have to pop to asda too... Need more baby food making supplies. He is still on purees. He gagged like mental when I attempted to puree it a bit less.. It was mince as well so hardly chunky!

I've got a nania car seat to return as well, it's DDs one that was kept at dhs mums. According to asda website if I just take it in I'll get a refund! (due to which report and 0% safety score)

Sleep consultant may be worth a go, I've emailed one based in Ayr.... We barely have any cash tho!

I am thankful for my DH who has finally got DD to go to bed 45 minutes ago - oh help, do we need to sleep train, it was all going so well and we had a bit of a routine going...

But -when she goes to sleep when she is supposed to- I am thankful for my beautiful girl, for friends with cars and trips to the beach, and for holidays coming up and being able to hang out with friends and family in Scotland and London VERY soon. I am thankful for the quiche.

apple I hope you have been so see a doctor, I am worried about you my love. I can't remember anyone else's news because it's been a bit of a day here but sending thoughts to everyone who needs them.

Argh. I finally caught up. Finally posted. And my post hasn't posted! Despite a message sent note coming up. Very annoyed!

Forgive the boast, but I am having an 'I love my life' day and had to share. Took Oscar shopping and for a coffee date today and he was so amazing. Smiled and giggled at everyone who looked at him and kept trying to stroke a Costa worker in the face She was telling me about her 2 year old who had reflux and as a consequence is smaller than O. I was all 'yes, yes I know about reflux'! Got chatting to a nice lady on the bus who had an 8 month old. Oscar also learnt how to push his pram while sitting on my lap in Costa and I think I have chosen a stroller - the Graco Evo mini. Gave it a test drive in Mothercare and loved it. I just felt so proud that Oscar is suddenly so confident and sociable. Heaven knows where it has come from but it is what I have wanted for him more than anything. I also feel extremely thankful that I am able to spend all of this time with him, instead of being at work. I really do not take state help for granted. Also thankful that I am managing to build a life for us, something I thought impossible 3 months ago.

Sorry, gush fest

I am thankful that we have bunny back!

Apparently bunny 'smelled different'. Not surprising considering p stuffed it down her fanjo during morning nappy change!

Oh. And clearly bunny wasn't the same bunny as child found in her bedroom later that night!

pass

Right. Going to try again.

Chasing glad your feeling good today.

Ginger at dh trying to kill you.

Apple try call gp n explain its an emergency. Also find out what policy is for appointments released on the day.

Pass?? Did u get the cat back?

I've forgotten what else.

On to my issues.

Last night lo went loopy doo in the bath. Well the second his feet touched the water. Temperature was ok. Not hot or cold. This is 2nd bath in a row. Last time thought it was because he was poorly. He would not sit down. Would not be calmed down.
In end I did a quick wash with FH holding him. Then had to sit cuddling and singing on bed for ages after. Trying to put him to bed was hard after that as well.

He has not had any incidents in the bath. No falls no crying even (since he was a new born). He splashes n plays happily.
But what do I do to mk sure this does not become a habit?

GT we had an incident like that with O a few months back. Turns out it was his eczema stinging in the water . Any skin problems?

I'm fairly sure it wasn't a deliberate attempt at murder GT :o

Was about to go get LO from nursery and they called as I was leaving to say she is happily asleep in her bed having had a massive meal so they'll call me when she wakes :) Yay!

She's a star, I am so proud of the effort she has made the last few weeks to do something she really didn't want to do at first.

I am right now making the filling for a steak and guiness pie. First pie since the weather cooled. Yay.

The girls have got a medical check up tomorrow morning first thing at the nursery. I don't know if you guys have that there but here they have an annual medical until a certain age when in state run care or education. The paed will also go in every week for a morning, not to check them up individually but for the staff to flag any concerns and to ask any questions. A bit nanny statish, and the regular visits stop when they go to school, but I guess it is a good idea.

Thanks chasing. In my rambling thoughtly last night I did wonder if he was allergic to watch then thought rationally and thought maybe it was the top to toe gel.
The skin on his feet has been dry recently which I put down to wearing baby grows less and his feet brushing the carpet.
What did you do about eczema? Creams from dr? Really hope he doesn't have it, FH has it very badly on his feet/legs

Allergic to water*