November 2012 - Teeth? Don't talk to us about teeth.

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1826507-November-2012-To-sterilise-or-not-to-sterilise-bottles-that-is

Just catching up quickly...

VQ I can't believe there is yet more illness in your house :( Poor J - hope he's feeling better and hope you get some sleep tonight.

chocolate I also have a telly addict, though admittedly not one that can turn it on herself :) Put her anywhere in the vicinity of a tv and she seems to develop a very flexible neck and goggle eyes

Great news about DP's new job mm What a relief :) Hope the MRI went ok.

Boo hiss to returning to work apple

My knowledge of cakes only extends as far as eating them pidj so I can't help you I'm afraid.

Hope you're not feeling too morose pass We love hearing from you - you're not on the edge here

Love border terriers YW :)

Morose doesn't cover it for me at the moment - thoroughly fed up is closer, though I don't really know why. bedtime is getting later and later and I'm getting more and more stressed about it. and I keep snapping at poor DD1 when she's just being 2. Every day I vow I'll be good and patient and everyday it gets to bedtime and I have absolutely had enough and lose my rag. I've just had to go and cuddle her while she's sleeping - I hope she doesn't hate me.

On the positive side, I am going riding for the first time in adages tomorrow :)

Hmm.. I appear to have been paid too much. Do I query or keep schtum in case they underpay me next month? It could possibly be correct because it says I have paid £0 PAYE and I understand when you return to work after mat leave you get back the tax you have overpaid through your payslip. Am I right in thinking that or am I making it up? Having said that my gross pay on my payslip is what I should be paid for 5 days and I'm only doing 4 days since returning. I'm confused

Quick catch up. The stupid bloody antibiotics gave me a rash but the alternative according to the dr was another set of pills that will give me a dodgy tummy so i'll stick with the rash I think. DH tooks the girls out for the day and they had a whale of a time. Got train to london, went to lunch on the southbannk then got bus to greenwich, played in the park and got dlr and train home. They were both exhausted and DD1 asked to go to bed at 6.45pm. I should be ill more often or fake illness so I actually get to enjoy the time to myself. Anyway think I'm on the mend.

I mainly came on to say kirrin Please don't be so hard on yourself. I reguarly used to lose it at bed times. I was forever saying that I'd be more patient the next day but the same struggles/battles/tantrums would occur and I'd snap. But for a good while now things have been much better. I'm not really sure what's changed. Perhaps we just settled in our routine. Or I know DD1 goes in waves of naughtiness and that one has passed for a bit only to rear it's head at a later date. Whatever reason I just wanted to give you hope and say you're not the only one who has experienced this. And your DD1 does not hate you, far from it.

pass sorry for moroseness hanging about. Hope it disapears. I love your normally chipper quirky posts. You make me smile a lot. Hope you are smiling very soon.

More hugs for vq and lovely J.

Thank you eliza :)
Hope you're feeling better Sounds like your girls had a lovely day :)

Apple I have been wondering about tax also. If I will get paid back my tax in my wage or do I need to claim or what. Not sure tbh.

Hospital almost packed. Just need
-new pj bottoms. Last time wore FHs but they are very worn out now.
-Whitchurch hazel
-snacks
-nappies. Smallest I have are size three. So think maybe ill buy size two to take with me.

Having hair cut tomorrow which is great! Considering pedicure.

Just wondering about your experience.
Our hospital tends to send ppl home quickly. Sometimes same day. I would rather stay over night. Is there anyway the hospital would allow this? How do i put it to them?
I just want a few extra quiet hours with baby before coming home to everyone. And I know when I have ds1 and baby in same room ill feel guilty for not showing ds1 as much attention.
Any tips would be grateful.

Bloody insomnia. Baby is asleep though. Not saying more about her sleep as I don't want her to show me the complete opposite.

gt I gave birth at 7 am and they said I could go home the same day or stay in for 24 hours. I chose the latter and they were fine with it, they discharged me at 10 am the next morning.

I am very jealous of the pregnant ladies, my cousin announced her pregnancy yesterday, due on 27th feb. it's a miracle baby, she is 38, he is 52, they have been trying for several years.

Fuckballs! Still not caught up though, sorry. I love my son very much, but I really wish I could sleep more.

GT i chose to transfer to the mw unit to establish bf, is that an option for you?

I just have to flat ice the cake, my aunt will decorat it. So i need a stable marzipan and icing base for her. Have cornflour, will purchase jam - any particular?

Third's the worse daisychain bizarre isn't it.

Fourth is pretty much perfect.

So keep going chaps.

gt I agree I have learnt to always try to stay in a day longer ( or stay off work a day longer) than you think you need to. I would lay it on thick and say, they may ask. Are you going to try breastfeeding again? If so say you would like to try again but had a terrible time last time.

kirrin I have days like that sometimes, I will not tell x off when the xxxxx whatever it is they keep doing, but when yo get to the end of the day and you are tired and they are tired it happens. They forget it quicker than us, but then we have the "comes as a standard feature mothers guilt" big hugs.

Note to self must buy some more Bach Flower Remedies before I turn back into a dragon.

Morning all. Just a quickie (ooer missus) as I need to get D's breakfast. Purple, I've always used apricot jam for icing cakes as its a neutral colour. In fact the baking aisle should have special, lump-free apricot jam for icing. Warming it slightly should make it easier to spread.

Choc was just about to say apricot as it goes clear.

Eliza hope you are better soon.

Kirrin do not feel bad, we are all big sufferers of mothers guilt.

Vq big hugs

Can't remember any more eeek

LO slept til 6 after one wake up at 8.45 and a random cry once at 1. Feeling a little more human

Morning,

Horrible night. For me, not for her.

She woke up in a good mood and while I brushed my teeth she crawled to my gym bag and chewed on my wallet. Nothing is safe. Nothing.

Sophia I swear by Bach remedies!

GT I agree with advice about saying you'd like to try BF as even if you're not (and with two so close I can understand that) it'd be chance to stay over and get baby some colostrum.

We are in 9 month regression too. Or maybe its just because he's in a travel cot in our room on holiday. Please. 3 wakings a night mostly for chat

GT I'll send you a PM.

I've just tried a new breakfast combo! Gave bottle first, he took all 8oz. Then I gave him breakfast straight after. Decided to make it a little smaller than usual though. Instead of adding a full fruit pot to weetabix, I added some dried blueberries and a little cinnamon for flavour. He wolfed it down . Might try with frozen blueberries tomorrow.

I also bought a cup with a straw yesterday in the hope that O will take more than a couple of mls of water over the day! He liked it! He got the idea to suck it up the straw, and took a little more than usual.

So soon he should sleep, for an hour or two, then I will give him a small snack as lunch isn't til 1.30 today as I am going swimming with the other mums and babies from baby group! We met at soft play yesterday.

I like making new friends .

Saw another christmas/birthday present idea direct.asda.com/Mega-Bloks-First-Builders-Big-Building-Bag---Classic---60-Pieces/000752804,default,pd.html

This is the cup with a straw :) direct.asda.com/Munchkin-Click-Lock-Straw-Cup/002680428,default,pd.html?cgid=6028 He will still drink from an open cup, but it does make it easier when out, or to get a little more in him!

Apple, I'd be inclined to check with your payroll dept just in case they've made a mistake and you get a very nasty surprise in a couple of months time - just before Christmas would be a real bummer.

GT, I'm not sure how it works with PAYE as I'm self-employed, but it's worth keeping an eye on. Te tax office are very quick to take tax, less so to give it back. They once sat on £1000 of my overpaid tax for three years because their statements are so bloody complicated it wasn't obvious and they were in no rush to point it out to me!

Kirin, I've had moments of feeling really angry and I only have one DC to care for. And there have been times I've been so completely knackered I haven't had the energy or patience to do things the way I'd like to with D.

I have a confession to make. It turns out D isn't quite the child prodigy I had thought. I realised this morning that DH had mistaken Channel 5 kids programmes for CBeebies. We had been watching stuff on the digibox library the previous evening so the last thing the telly was tuned into was Neighbours on 5 (ok, it had to come out some time - my name is Chocolatestain and I'm a Neighbours watcher). So all D actually did was turn it on, although to be fair to him he must have turned both the telly and digibox on together.

I'd still say that takes genius baby skills! Don't admit it, just tell everyone he changed the channel to cbeebies anyway!

could you put it on your birth plan gt ?

I would check with payroll apple just to check

try the Christmas bargain thread detective its awesome

still clever choc

todays task is to keep three children happy and stimulated at home. hmm...

bought a vtrch walker on eBay and now she is saying she has lost the phone that goes with it. not impressed

Brockle O's phone is buried deep inside his toybox, and to be honest, he isn't fussed. He's never played with it!

When are you free? Shall we meet in the next couple of weeks once the boys are back at school?

I wish I'd bought one without the phone in the first place!

I was thinking the same thing det I will pm you

The main reason I want to stay is to bf. and I feel with ds1 it's going to be harder. So want to try establish while alone at hospital rather then at home on my own like last time.
I am thinking bf with such a tiny gap is going to be crazy. But I feel like after last time I need to try harder. Otherwise I'll regret it all over again.

I have chosen a comfy chair that I will feed in. Rather then the bed as I think that was a issue for me last time.
I have read loads of advice on Kellymom etc. I have reserved art of bf at library.
My aims is to bf for 5 weeks minimum. This is my "curfew" time lol. So figure if I have to stay at home. However also understand going out with a 1year old and a bf NB will be very hard. So wont be down on myself if at that stage to drop bf.

But this is all chat. Will see how it turns out.

I definitely think bf would be worth a good try GT. IME it's much easier than bottles. Your biggest problem will be the hour-long feeds close together when your LO is establishing your supply as it may be difficult to handle H at the same time. If you have a stretchy wrap then you can put the baby in a cradle hold and it's quite easy to rearrange clothes and wrap to feed him and keep your hands free. Then if H is jealous you could even give him a bottle at the same time if you wanted. I would say don't put too much pressure on yourself. Have a plan in place for how you want to establish breastfeeding and then see how it goes. Some babies are easier to breastfeed than others. I think J did remarkably well (apart from his latch wasn't great) given his difficult birth whereas my DS1 just refused the breast point blank - I think I got him latched on twice ever.

The GP turned down my request for more infant gaviscon today the bastard. Apparently there's new evidence that it isn't effective! Fortunately DH put in his Dr Dad had and argued them in to it. Ffs J is breastfed, do they really think I want to faff around administering gaviscon to J every feed? But if I miss a feed then he pukes, repeatedly. So in our opinion it is effective. I really feel sorry for any mums of refluxy babies in our area, they're going to struggle to get treatment.

• put on his Dr Dad hat

Stupid fat fingers!