November 2012 - When are they going to sleep through again?

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1751304-November-2012-Babies-first-holidays-India-Australia-the-world-is-their-oyster

[PetiteRaleuse]

And a lovely Christmas market. And the usual fruit and veg market is nice too. And the restaurants...

[PurplePidjin]

Dp swears down he put R to bed on his front at the foot of the cot. When i went in for the first feed he was on his back at the head of the cot. He has also switched Ewan on twice - both times to harp, which is his preferred setting but that leg is closest to the side and not easily accessible

[ValiumQueen]

pr you quite like the place then?

pp clearly gifted!

J is one poorly puppy.

[PetiteRaleuse]

Oh no VQ is he no better or is this something new?

Yes, I do like the place. Especially the ice creams. Did I mention the Trier ice cream parlours?

[ValiumQueen]

He took badly in the night and is not much better so I dread to think what tonight will be like.

He is having small bottles every couple of hours and is keeping them down this morning, but his poo is so frequent and watery it is making his skin bleed. His cough is horrid and he is very snotty with clearly a very sore throat. He is smiling inbetween and is very brave. No fever to speak of but I have been medicating due to soreness.

[FatimaLovesBread]

I am absolutely shattered, lack of sleep last night coupled with grouchy baby. Two hours of trying to get a tired baby to nap has resulted in her now asleep in the car seat.
Was looking forward to some sanity in the form of my best friend coming for a brew this afternoon but she's just text to say she's full of cold.
It's probably not a good idea for her to come is it? M's already grouchy and I think teething. Should I say call next week instead?

[PetiteRaleuse]

Just re-read your night posts, that's horrible, and the irritation on his bum won't be helping. to the prince.

Would someone slap my DH? I am strict on food and drink at the best of times but coke is a no no as far as DD1 goes. Normal right? She's two. Anyway DH just gave her a sip of his coke. Not the end of the world, a sip never hurt anyone. But RIGHT BEFORE NAP TIME? Caffeine mixed with sugar given to someone who has never had caffeine just before her nap? Seriously?

Well she wouldn't go down.

So I have made him take her shopping. That'll teach him.

[ValiumQueen]

fatima I think that would make sense. Colds and small babies do not mix well.

[ValiumQueen]

You are quite right about coke pr DD1 has never had any, but DD2 has as she is a sly little thief. Any cups or cans left at any height will get drained. Yet if she is offered any fizzy she will decline. She prefers it flat I guess. Or illegal.

[PetiteRaleuse]

I would avoid if possible fatima . Can't protect them from germs forever but when we have the choice I would. Seven months ago I'd have said no, it's only a cold. But colds can be such arses, I have learned this year.

[PetiteRaleuse]

It's just common sense isn't it? Why would he let her drink it? I asked him. He said well she wanted to try it. Of course she bloody did. She knows she's not allowed to.

Well I hope he's enjoying his trip to the shops with her. By now they will have arrived and she'll be coming down from her caffeine high. That should be fun.

[FatimaLovesBread]

That's what I thought pr. She is grouchy and testing my patience as it is so I don't want to add a cold in to the mix if I can avoid it. She's already a bit snuffly and snotty, don't want it any worse.
Bugger looks like it's just me and her for the afternoon again

Sympathies VQ sounds awful

[ChasingDaisy]

Oh VQ poor J. You and him have really been through the mill.

PR I bet he won't be making that mistake again!

[ComradeJing]

Oh place marking.

Having snuggles with sleeping DS on the sofa. God I love it when the sleeps.

[Kyzordz]

Poor j vq hope he's better soon

How long is too long to not be drinking much? E is still only taking about 20-24oz when he used to take 3
6-40 before he got poorly, and the doctor's said he had to have at least half but its been over a week now. He is starting to recover but drinking hasn't picked up, but it should shouldn't it? Oddly his enthusiasm for solids has improved the past few days

have more to say but e has woken up. He's forgotten how to nap since being poorly

[PetiteRaleuse]

Kyz LO rarely drinks more than 27oz or so and 20oz is my goal for the day. Under that I consider to not have eaten mch that day. If he is getting more enthusiastic for solids he will also be getting nutrition from them. Is he drinking some water? Look up signs of dehydration and keep an eye out, but I think 20oz plus is OK. LO is 17lbs if that helps and has drunk more than 30oz once in her life.

[ChasingDaisy]

kyz if it helps, O only has 20-24 oz per day. Is he filling up more on solids so needs less milk?

[Passmethecrisps]

Poor, poor J VQ! Sounds horrendous!

It's fucking May! When will these colds fuck the fuck off.

[Passmethecrisps]

kyz milk volume is entirely subjective and individual to that baby. Look out for signs of dehydration and offer as much as you can. What is fine for one baby is not going to be ok for another so trust your instincts. If he seems unwell and shows signs of becoming dehydrated then go back to see your doc.

[Passmethecrisps]

Oh and weaning. My HV has always rescited the 'food is fun' mantra. Today with P a matter of days into her 6th month I was asked how many meals she was on now.

Meals? Eh? She is still just sooking spoons. Do I need to hurry the fuck up here?

[ChasingDaisy]

Sorry, yep pass is right. The only thing you should compare E's intake against is his usual level.

[PetiteRaleuse]

pass I was told to hurry the fuck up today with the weaning. But she's getting food and putting on weight so... i'm not going to stress too much about it. In fact I'm not going to stress at all.

[Passmethecrisps]

We only started on Sunday! She is still not sure what she is supposed to be doing and what tiny amounts she has injested has already played havoc with her bowels - she is a martyr to her bowels! I will be chilled about it.

chasing perspective is also genuinely helpful! If I usually eat 3 courses twice a day but suddenly drop to 1 course it is likely to suggest that I am not feeling myself but I am unlikely to become very ill very quickly as a result. The change itself is as important as the volume and vice versa

[ChasingDaisy]

I am taking weaning slowly here too. A finger food of veg at lunch and just introduced pear puree at breakfast. He had approx one spoonful. Same as P, it is already causing havoc with his bowels and I genuinely think he needs to get used to food slowly. I would rather take it slowly than rush and cause him problems. At the moment he thinks food is a fun game. Long may it continue!