November 2012 - Babies' first holidays: India, Australia, the world is their oyster

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1746351-November-2012-In-denial-about-the-six-month-sleep-regression

I've just told the internet I have long pubes.

Yup.

Off to MIL for tea. I am eagerly anticipating todays wee nuggets of advice.

I would leave it BP. Many, many people are told to use cooled boiled water by MWs and HV. The nurses made P's formula this way when we were in the children's ward with her at a month old. Using cooled boiled water makes life a lot easier when out and about that's for sure.

Periods. Urgh. Mine has just finished. Maternity pads do not work

Matilda has just survived her first ever underwater swimming lesson! We had lots of fun! Bonus is it is held in a rather naice local spa hotel here, the membership fees of which are eye-wateringly high. My 8 year old estate car did not belong in the carpark YW I am sure you and J will love it tomorrow!

Can I have a rant? Please?? I hate my fucking body. There, I said it. This has been bothering me for some time. When I was bf'ing, everyone told me my baby weight would 'fall off'. Then when I stopped bf'ing they told me the same thing again. They lied. I put on almost 5 stone when I was pregnant . I have only lost about 2. granted I was a stone underweight but this is irrelevant . I have gone from a pre pregnancy 8/10 to an embarrassingly unflattering 14/16 on a good day. I am covered in stretchmarks and have flabby hip fat. DP claims he doesn't care. I fucking do. I used to be really proud of how skinny I was (to the point where I was obsessive about it and verged on eating disorders at times). I am terrified of starving myself again so seem to be going the opposite way. But something has to be done as I am fat and miserable. Can anyone recommend an easy-to-follow diet plan that isn't going to turn me into a neurotic, calorie counting mess?

I was staggered to see Tommee Tippee advocating the use of cooled boiled water in their dispenser instructions. I use at least 70deg personally.

I am also shocked to see so many re-up-duffed new mummies on our fb page! I think I would like another baby. Certainly not now though as business ventures, house/country moves and a puppy are next on my agenda. But I couldn't help but think 'what if we just go for it while my body is fucked anyway..' earlier. No MissMummy - someone get me with the quiche fish!!

mm I can recommend something but will do so over Facebook/pm x

Horsey I would love to know too. Am in body depression central about bros wedding in Canada... Especially being in a swimsuit in front of others. I have 6 weeks

horsey would love to hear your thoughts. FB away!

I have just realised I left the fucking sunroof on the car open. It is pissing it down outside. For fucks actual fucking saaaaake!!!! (thank fuck it is sweary Wednesday)

I know what you mean mm. I am getting more and more flabby rather than less and less. I am sure my body looks better immediately after giving birth.

I was a weight watcher queen some years ago going from 11 stone to 7.5 then sitting comfortably at 8.5 for the years after. I need to revisit some of the strategies I used as I have completely changed my eating habits. Pre-pregnancy I wouldn't have dreamed of eating crisps every day. If I had bread in a restaurant I would never have buttered it. On my toast I would have either peanut butter or marg, marmite or marg and so on. Buying a chocolate bar would have been a very, very rare event. I genuinely felt for years that I ate exactly what I wanted and never felt like I was doing without. I genuinely didn't want chocolate or butter. Now I have reintroduced myself to these things and I am massively fucked off with myself as there was no need. I do think that going back to work will help me though. I never carry money and take homemade soup with fruit. I can only eat what I take and am on my feet all day

That and portion control. DH and I are useless at judging portions and have been conditioned to eat what's on the plate

Went to docs as still feeling crap and raised temp. Worried I was wasting her time but she was actually really concerned about me being so run down & has ordered blood tests for thyroid, sugar and immune system (I think). Also course of abs for chest infection. Ears & sinuses still sore but she was more concerned about my chest & initially asked if I was asthmatic. So in the end I didn't feel so silly for going.

I have gained 1.5 stone since giving birth and I was already overweight. Just being so knackered all the time I keep giving into sugar quick fixes to get me through the day. Actually joined ww last week and lost 3lbs but then got ill. Really want to get fit and healthy by the time L is walking!

Oh in other news I think L may be American. He looked at me earlier and said Mom-om-om-om-om! Heart melted ok I know it was just babbling but indulge me

Portion control: I am not a 6'3" 15stone bulk of muscle working on RIBs all day. Yet I usually end up eating almost as much as one at tea time

I was at my skinniest during my last ever teaching placement. I was on the go non-stop and in the car for 5 hours a day. When I wasn't driving, I was working or sleeping. I was also very stressed. I weighed just under 9 stone by the end of it..

I'm doing slimming world now but found that just cutting out the stodgy pudding I was having every night worked wonders to begin with! I also have holiday coming up, in 3 weeks . Going with my sisters and stepsisters who are all skinny, even though two of them have had 2 kids themselves. I don't do skirts/shorts either as my legs are not fit for public show . And as for my tummy - floppy, split muscles, protruding tummy button, which has turned dark brown for some reason...it is not a pretty sight, and bikinis are no longer for me. I know they'll all be there in their skimpy clothes, and I'll feel frumpy and large, especially with wearing BFing tops too. Want to try and remember its worth it formy lovely boys, but will be hard. Maybe pray for rain instead?

Drink a glass of water (or bouillon/miso soup) before each meal

Rule of thirds - 1/3 veg, 1/3 carb, 1/3 veg

Eat off a smaller plate

Fruit for snacks - dried dates are awesome for a sweet hit

Don't buy crap, but do have one time every week where you're allowed a treat - mine's youth club night, but it could be wine on Friday or a bacon butty on Saturday morning...

Just popping in to say that MM the way you describe your body/weight pre-pregnancy is exactly how I felt about my body pre-preg. Size 6, naturally thin, about a stone underweight, proud of it, bordering on obsessional/disordered eating etc.

Funnily enough even though I lost all my preg weight without trying (sorry ) I now hate being so skinny and am desperate to put on weight. The two weeks after O was born was the time I looked the best I ever have.

Sorry, I'm just rambling and that probably isn't any use to you but just wanted to say that I understand how you feel.

Nice day. Swimming with ds1 this am and he actually did what the teacher asked mainly and was quite fun. Then coffee and Softplay. And this afternoon we got the train two stations down line and back again - Teddy's first train ride. Ds1 loves trains. And DH coming home early to do bath time. Hoorah.

I used to be a size 6. Am now a good 12-14. My legs and arms are thin except my thighs my boobs are DD but my problem area is my waist and tummy. My excuse up to now has been all the surgeries the last few years, but I need to just admit I'm just crap at self control.

I'd be interested too horsey

I suspect my problem is not exercising enough though. I used to play squash, ride, run etc.

Stunt grrr to GP but to be fair it is late for reflux to present / be an issue but not if its CMPI. And if its CMPI meds won't help without cutting dairy and soy out of your diet (though if you fancied that cave man diet given they ate neither soy or dairy - now's maybe the time to try!!!)

I want to cycle!!! Actually am enjoying 16 months since my last period but am feeling left out

MM get a pedometer and leave your car keys at home. I've done 16,000 steps today just poddling to baby sensory, the pharmacy and getting the train to my sisters- that's 8 miles and well over 1200 calories burned! That entitles me to lots of cake. I think one of the best changes you can make to be slim long term is to avoid sedentary lifestyles (for at least a few days a week where feasible) - cars are bad for our bums and tums!

My portion control is dreadful. When I dish up tea my plate is bigger than DH's - OK I'm BF and walk a fuck of a lot but

I can recommend Slimming World. I've never done any dieting before.

I've shifted 12.5lb in 3 weeks despite mammoth period doing it's best to throw me off the rails. I don't feel I'm missing out on anything at the minute.

I still get my evening treats with the syns on the plan. Last night I still ate 4 jaffa cakes and a milky bar. This is enough to make me stop and not carry on.

I'd like to lose 5 stone. I should really lose 7 stone.

It's a long road.

JJ I put on 1st 10lb at some point between my 6 week check and week 15 when I was reweighed. I nearly cried when I got on the scales. I didn't feel any bigger. But clearly, I was.

Rewarding the shit times with food clearly didn't help. Neither did the start of reflux shite when we were stuck in the house and on the sofa a lot.

Period buddy here too. det mine is so heavy, my mooncup overflowed (sorry tmi) a couple of times today. I'm using a pad with it. Not sure about night time as I woke to find the sheets all red this morning. It is just so heavy, never had anything like this pre pregnancy. I had retained placenta, a week after giving birth I had blood pouring out, it seems very similar to that experience. Am fed up.

As for weight I think I've lost some since being in Hungary, I drink more and eat less and walk hours. Haven't weighed as the scale is in boxes and mum does not own one. She is a size 10 after 4 kids and at the age of nearly 60. I just hate my hips and arms, I have no tummy but all the fat sits on my hips.

We went for physio today, they assessed her again and think that it's her nervous system that does not function properly, the whole right side of her body doesn't respond the way it should. We are referred for tests but meanwhile they are starting new exercises focusing on brain as well as hip. The good news is that it's very easy to retrain the brain at this age and should see results within weeks, making her movements more coordinated.

Hello!

Were back from sunny Ibiza. I haven't read the thread but will try throughout the rest of the evening. Hope everyone is well.

I've had a look at Fb page. Exciting to see so many babies on solids. J is 28 weeks today ans hasn't eaten a thing!!! No interest whatsoever. Sleep still a nightmare too. I'm going to take him to gp to query a wheat intolerance, not sure what they'll do though?? Any advice?

I hope to catch up but if not ill join you all on the new thread!

OK when I said walking and BF entitles me to a lot of cake - I think six banana, pecan and maple syrup muffins today might have been pushing it not sure I should make them again if they are this moreish

Jonas had chicken and courgette purees today and LOVED them - I let him try chicken juice when I made the purees and he was v excited by it. Clearly he's not got vegetarian tendencies. He thought avocado was . Sounds like he's like your DD2 PR he's another one who wants a wee meal!

Oh Izzy poor you on the sleep - was hoping he'd have cracked it on your hols. If he's comfort feeding, struggling to sleep, refusing solids (can be a sign of a sore or itchy throat), skin problems etc I'd be assuming an intolerance. Regressions and newborn nights aside babies like sleep, they're smart critturs and know innately how to develop useful skills (rolling over, crawling, sitting and sleeping) not sleeping at this stage makes me think something's not right.

Waves from the bedtime routine!

There's Jaffa cakes calling my name downstairs! Hope this is quick!

I'm joining weight watchers next week. I'm a bridesmaid for my cousin in 5 weeks and its also S's christening. I tried my bridesmaids dress on again on Sunday and it was a LOT tighter than when I first tried it on