November 2012 - The new quiche sleepy dust crop-sprayer plane seems to be working

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1725957-November-2012-Poor-sleep-deprived-mummies-and-daddy

Read but didnt post yesterday. Forgotten most of what I wanted to say but to summarise:

No fucking way will I have another anytime soon. I held my friend's lovely newborn yesterday and didnt feel one bit broody! I adore M. She really is my world and everyday she makes me smile (yesterday she tested my PF giggling at me in yoga!) but for now, she is more than enough. Next on the agenda is a puppy. realises if we keep waiting until the time is right we will never get one

Det I also think of you on the rare occasion I remember to do PFs

YW are you still up for a cuppa later? I have woken up really sniffly but think it's a reaction to the flowers downstairs as opposed to a cold. Up to you if you'd rather I didnt risk lurgy sharing!

Yesterday I made the decision not to beat myself up about bfing anymore. I deliberately didnt take any formula out with us. She had her last bottle at 8pm on Wednesday but all day yesterday refueed to feed from me. Started feeding but then pushed me away By 5pm after about 20 attempts during the day she was starving and necked an 8oz bottle . So I give up. She clearly doesnt want me anymore and although I wanted to EBF for 6 months I managed 5. I am viewing it as a step towards weaning.

Every time a new thread starts i always have good intentions of keeping up and that goes to pot very quickly. We are all good here. Weaning is going well. He has eaten everything we have given him and he is having 2 meals a day. We are doing purees as H cant sit up so cant sit in his high chair just yet, but i think its going to happen soon. I feel like my milk is going down so I might up my fenugreek intake. He is now in his own room and has been sleeping better but I'm not sure if it is the room or jus H's time. He now is in a pattern of waking twice, apart from today so getting there slowly but surely. The room changing was quite an emotional thing for me. With ds1, we co slept for quite some time, it felt like we were chucking him out but its been fine. Part of the deal is dh brings him to me when he wakes and puts him back so I'm sleeping better. Not sure how long that will happen for. I have a question. H is bf and I want to do a clear out of his bottles. He is now using a sippy cup for water for meals. Shall I keep one bottle back just in case I'm not around to feed him or just give everything in the sippy cup.

chick our dietician said he could even take breast milk in a sippy cup from 6 months - so you could probably chuck if you want to.

MM yes come round for a cuppa - we've had a shit night - stuck on poo here too which I've only just noticed after two awake hours - he NEVER poos at night. Bloody weaning - it even smelt of sweet potato. I'm going to miss the low waste high efficiency of breast milk. Come round this afternoon - am going to attempt more sleep this am. M still adores you - don't take it as a personal rejection x

Madam I can completely relate to what you said. I never got a rush of love with either of mine. With ds1 I was still quite young and it was all very overwhelming. I was in labour for 3 days and it ended in an emcs so I was high as a kite with all the drugs when he was born. And then I had to come back in hospital because of infected stitches for 5 days without him. Then with ds2 being born early and being in scbu. Now I cannot imagine my life without either of my boys. I love them both so much. I am exactly where I want to be in life, I feel very very lucky. I have two beautiful children, an amazing husband, a roof over my head, we are all in good health, I have both my parents and a grandparent and I work for a good company. Talking of work, everyone I talk to seems to be in a hurry to get back to work but I'm dreading it. I feel like I'm in the minority in rl. I could happily be a housewife for a couple of years. We aren't having another one. I would love to but we just can't afford it. Childcare is just too expensive and we need both our wages to survive.

Thanks YW I wasn't sure. You wouldn't think this was my second child, lol!! Don't remember anything!!

Mm1 sorry about your nursing strike.

O has been unsettled since 3am and I can now smell a faint whiff of poo. Oops

MM please try not to feel rejected. The bottle is just easier. Your DD still adores you, and I don't feel any less close to DS since he moved to being formula fed. I think there is a big hormonal melt down about stopping feeding, and it may help to think of it all as part of the next chapter of weaning.

thechick that sounds quite similar to what happened with my first. DD was born by EMCS under a GA. I woke up and want sure whether I was pregnant still, or whether she had survived, and completely overwhelmed by pain and disoriented. It took me an embarrassingly long time to even enquire about her. Then I was shown a baby who they said was mine. It was so surreal. And then I cried and cried because she spent her first 2 hours of this life without a cuddle. DH hadn't wanted to "steal" the first cuddle because he had gotten into trouble when his older DD was born, also by EMCS and got taken to SCBU, but he had been allowed a quick cuddle by the nurses, and so didnt want to make the same "mistake". Bless him. Them 2 days in hospital where I think, looking back, I was still in shock about the section etc. but all fine now

Much like true love in films, I think the way the mother-baby bond is portrayed in a lot of our culture puts enormous pressure on new mums. A rush of love is perfectly possible, but I think many people don't feel like that, but it's less common that people talk about it. I felt so much better when a friend told me she'd taken a year to feel fully bonded, and had questioned her sanity when she felt she couldn't tell a soul.

There must have been muck in the sleepy dust spreader last night, as F also delivered a 1am poonami. I was all too aware of it very loud as it escaped everything. She then spent 40 minutes lying in bed mooing like a cow until she fell asleep again with us - although it was her only waking so I can't be too cross.

I can't wait to have more babies, but I'm in no hurry (realise that is a bit contradictionary) as I want to get to know F properly, and be able to enjoy every single moment of her first early years without having to worry about anyone else. Spoilt? F? Noooo.

detective I saw those feeder thingies, but couldn't work out how to use them so moved on.

Off to attempt naptime...gah.

I keep trying to post at night. But by the time I have caught up, O has been fed, and is asleep and ready for transfer. He's very quick these days. I've just gone and ruined that now haven't I?! Thank goodness. The last few days have seen one waking at 6am, which some people VQ class as sleeping through.

Either way, it feels fucking amazing after weeks of 2am, 6am, and then sleeping in our bed. He's been managing all night in the cot.

I'm not sure why, but now in the evening he wakes up after going to bed, and needs a quick cuddle, or rocking back to sleep. Takes just a minute to go back, but won't self settle. He never used to wake for anything other than a feed. So not sure what it is all about? Maybe he just wakes and needs to check with us, is this a nap, or is this bed time?!

I'm having a mummy & O lazy day today. Too sore to be bothered going out. DS1 is at grandmas tonight, as we have an early start in the morning. I have this study day all day, and I was dreading it for leaving O all day, but now I am dreading it because why the fuck did I think I could manage a full day of chair sitting?!

I have a munchkin thing that my mum bought for DD1. I've never used it! I might give it a go with E. will let you know how I got on, if I do.

chick I have been giving E milk in a soppy cup since she was 5 months on advice from the dietician. Most of it dribbles out of her mouth but guess its all part of the learning process. Dietician has told me not to bother with the bottle at all.

E's tube came out in the middle of the night. This one lasted less than 8 hours which is a record for her. Her last feed through it was at 11:30pm. You think she's be hungry! But she's fine, still not fussed about taking milk, having breakfast for bfeeding. She's a funny old stick! Right back to the hospital I go. Thank god it's only 10mins drive away! I sometimes walk when I have the time, or not feeling lazy (which is most of the time!).

How about this for an urgent referral?!

Just got a letter through for a Paeds appt at our local hospital. For 30th May. So when I saw the GP and she refused to do anything, but said he would need to be seen by paeds, he would have been left for 11 weeks in reflux hell, pain and suffering?

Thank fuck I took him to A&E. Thank fuck we have been treated so much better there. And thank fuck I had the ability to do this.

I feel angry that some babies will have had to suffer for so long because they have been left untreated and made to wait 11 weeks!!!

That can not be right.

Well, Oscar has the hang of rolling tummy to back now! Hopefully there will be less pissed off stranded turtle moments now!

He's grumpy today though! He woke up happy, now I have a clingy whinger! And DP is at work. Definitely stuck to the sofa today! The dog just cleaned up baby sick. One less job for me now!

Oh, while at baby clinic yesterday, the HV pointed out a scratch on O in a how did that get there kind of way. I was like yes, he has scratched himself? And?

He bloody did it while we were sat in the boiling hot waiting room for an hour, and he was pissed off, tired and hot.

What was her point? Did she think I didn't know he had it? The fact he screamed the place down when he did it wasn't enough?!

I'm also convinced he has the fastest growing nails ever. He needs them cut every 3 days really. Anyone else have a scratchy fucker?!

And why does he keep hitting meeeeeeeeeeee?!

detective O is making me hopeful that M will grow out of this waking loads sometime soon.
Last night she fed at 11:45, 2:15 and 5am. I managed to get an hour between feed one and two. Made the mistake of checking the bank at 3am and laying awake for an hour stressing about money

M is a happy little chatterbox today

I've just realised DP left for work at 10.15. He starts at 11.30. It is 2.5 miles away and he's driving. He always leaves about 50 minutes before work. Because he likes to sit down and relax before work. I reckon he's fucked off even earlier because O is whingy today. Cunt.

Hmm. Going to have to have words about this. It isn't going to be an option when I'm back in work anyway, because O will be dropped off 30 minutes before he starts work. So he can piss off getting to work so fucking early!

I feel like a bit of a failure today. For whatever reason I've woken up in a right shitter of a mood. Cannot cope with whingy clingy baby. Why won't she fucking nap in her cot? Every time I put her down she just whinges and whines. But when dh goes near her she's full of smiles. Have just had a go at dh for no real reason other than needed a rant. He decided to not have breakfast which pissed me off no fucking end, because he gets to make that choice, doesn't have it made for him by some baby terrorist who sabotages everything he tries to do. Have sent him out with her. She's fed and changed, he can entertain her while I do abso-fucking-lutely nothing.

I wish I knew what had changed Fatima so I could share the lurrrrrve!

Alas. I have no fucking clue. Clearly the swaddleless nights fuck things up for us. The two bad nights we have had in the last 2 weeks have been the ones minus swaddle thanks to vomming.

And I want chocolate. I want to eat so much chocolate I feel physically sick. I want to binge like I never have before. But I can't and this is possibly the worst thing of all.

NEW THREAD TIME!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1736112-November-2012-Does-it-seem-like-half-a-year

Oh BP some days are just shit from the off. Some days my DH's mere existence enrages me. F knows she doesn't need to smile and coo for you to love and feed her. Our babies can basically treat us like shit (joke, it's not deliberate, I know this) because they know we love them unconditionally. It is basically a sign of her own security with you. Just take it easy on yourself today. Some days are just about surviving until bedtime. This is normal and ok.

Thanks stunt I was getting quite concerned about what the quiche protocol for a new thread would be if you didn't show up in time!

At gp. My puk is green. And as far as I know that's not good

Sounds like a good plan BP. Sounds like our men need their heads bashing together today!

Good job O is in an old babygrow. He looks like a dog. Covered in fucking dog hair. I really need to hoover. I did it 2 days ago but labs are hairy bastards. I think I'm going to get the babydan play pen gate to go across the arch way to divide the room up, and stop the dog coming where O rolls and plays. Just til he's more on his feet. The hair is driving me mad!

Detective it is my hair that F gets covered in. I'll be bald if this carries on much longer. I feel very PMT-ey today. Not that I've had a period in over a year. I need a big fuck off slap from that rotting fish.