November 2012 - The new quiche sleepy dust crop-sprayer plane seems to be working

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1725957-November-2012-Poor-sleep-deprived-mummies-and-daddy

[kirrinIsland]

Oh no detective I hate the false hope thing :(

Hope you get a good nap lily and that you get a lie in tomorrow stunt

Good luck with the hair dye Sophia Before and after pics on FB?!

I am quite pleased with N, even though I still need matchstick. That last sleep was only an hour but the others were 2 or more which is ok for her. I won't say perhaps we're getting somewhere as I've said it before and we so weren't getting anywhere!

What are you all up to today?

[PetiteRaleuse]

Morning. I'm off to my wine market this morning after breakfast then will be going to the supermarket later on to buy bubbles for DD1 and food for a picnic tomorrow.

VQ both the fact I can't take my drink anymore and that I am driving later on means you can be reassured I will not be drunk in charge of the kids :o Wine markets are one of those situations where you have to decide to spit or swallow, and unfortunately it is better to spit in these circumstances. As for the swearing, there will certainly be some when I drive to the ahops later. Hate driving.

Talking of which, it is very strange hearing DD1 speaking English words with a French accent. Horse becomes hoss for example.

Not the worst night here once DD1 finally let us sleep.

[fruitpastilles]

Morning all, terrible night here, S woke every 30 mins for her dummy. I ended up sleeping on her floor as I was sick of getting up.
lily not sure if someone has already suggested this, or if O has cow and gate... But they do pre made sterilised bottles, they only have 3oz in each, but would be a lot less faffing.

m.boots.com/mt/www.boots.com/en/Cow-Gate-Starter-Pack-from-Newborn-Stage-1_1189297/#un_jtt_addtohome_hidden

[PetiteRaleuse]

Anyone else's baby making noises like a violin being played by a beginner? Or a really creaky door? And finding it hilarious? LO having a great time here.

[Clarella]

checks in. yawns.

rubbish night.

dh also thinks formula will work to extend sleep.

sadly I feel we have an issue now simply needing boob for comfort.

[Clarella]

oh and anyone else have a baby who can't feed in the morning till the poo comes out?

[Lily311]

Thanks fruit. But the bottles are too small. I am watching some pre sterilised bottles on ebay too, i will see whether I can get them cheap.

We have no plans today, a trip to asda or tesco is in order though.

[StuntNun]

Clarella I tried formula in the evening but it made no difference to J's sleep. What did help was tanking him up. I was expressing milk in the morning (by only feeding on one side) then giving him the EBM at 5 and a then a breast feed at 7-7.30 and a dream feed at 10.30 which carries him through for a lot longer - he started stretching out to 6 hours, now he will manage up to 8 after the dream feed and I have stopped expressing now, just offer breast feeds at 5, 7ish and 10.30. You have to be past the sleep regression for it to to work completely.

PR it's more like a pterodactyl screech here.

I have that book too Sophia! There's lots going on with poor old DS2 at the moment: he's heading for 7 so he's becoming more independent and developing new fears of things that never worried him before; he's at that age where they all keep falling out with each other at school; he's very bright but struggling at school I suspect due to undiagnosed dyslexia; he's living in the shadow of a SN big brother who isn't a good role model; and mummy's busy with a new baby brother who he loves dearly but does take a lot of mummy's time and attention. It's difficult to know what to do about it really. I've told him that the hour between him getting home and DS1 getting home from school is 'DS2 and mummy special time' which I'm hoping will help.

Have to go and rescue DH, he can't hear the F1 qualifying over J's screeching.

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

Hair dye in. Off to make the wheaten bread while it stews

[ValiumQueen]

That prescription formula tastes even worse than it smells. J took it after a bit of thought. He drank more than he has in the morning all week and looks very happy. Better than the taste of acid and discomfort I bet. But seriously it is VILE!

[Donnadoon]

VQ Sorry about your post and you are exactly right about the luck will run out thought.thankyou for the reassurance x

[ChunkyChicken]

Have a v snotty bubba here, so v glad to get an undisturbed 1-5.45 sleep. Outside of that, he clearly just wanted comfort from a dummy. Having saline'd & sucked, I'm hoping he'll get over it soon.

Sorry to those that has bad nights note to self, buy the better grade of sleepy dust, not the value range

donna no advice as others have said it all. I would say that having anxiety like that is normal, if its just taking care/action etc, but if it starts dictating your life & taking over, then, like any reaction to an event, you might need help & support from your GP etc. I was far more anxious throughout DS's pg than through DD's, perhaps because I was more aware of things that could go wrong, but now he's here, I'm far more relaxed about some things!! Thankfully SIDS is quite rare, however, heartbreaking, and you can only do your best to reduce risk.

[BigPigLittlePig]

7-3-7



Sorry to hear the flight path missed some of us.

[BigPigLittlePig]

[daisychain76]

Morning all ~ suspect it feels like lunchtime for some with bad nights! H new pattern is 10.30, 2.30 and 6.30. Clarella have you read the no cry sleep solution. It suggests a pull off technique to break the association between sleep and bf. l am debating trying it but it does warn it can take over a week to work and l am so tired, can?t face it at the moment.

Really pleased this week ~ bought 2 blue and pink nursing bras from M&s that are a bit Kath Kidston~ish and the height of style compared with my white grey ones that are on their 3rd baby.

Going to catch up now as sat on train on way to work. Ten lunch with DB and SIL to be (in 2 weeks!) so lots of wedding chat.

[Elizadoesdolittle]

Morning all, sorry to hear of some extremely crap nights. I really don't know how some of you cope. I remember the fear of night time with DD1. I remember snapping one night and shouting to DH when he told me I should get ready for bed and I shouted something along the lines of whats the fucking point, I'm up half the night. I stopped thinking of night times as that and they were just day time extensions. It was a brief period though and DD1 has been a fantastic sleeper since she was 6 months so hopefully all yours are approaching that age they will be 2. I was dreading nights with E but she's been brilliant so am thankful for that every day.

Shes just woken. Can hear her screeching like a cat upstairs. That's her happy sound! Better go and get her. Hope everyone has a good day and here's a load of for those in need.

[Donnadoon]

Thanks Chunky Thankyou everyone

[ValiumQueen]

donna no need to apologise all is fair in love, and ending threads.

[Lily311]

fatima just ordered the koo-di pop up travel cot on tesco website. The lemon one is down to £35, the cheapest i have seen. They go for about £30 used on ebay.

[ValiumQueen]

detective you could add carobel to water to help with the vomiting. Water is mildly acidic apparently.

[PurplePidjin]

We're off oop north (well, relatively) to a car show. Not looking forward to the driving or getting R to sleep in the travel cot, but it'll be fab introducing him to friends we see rarely - this time last year i was trying to hide a lack of drinking and excessive tiredness!

[Dixiebell]

clarella, yes to the morning poo! Serious wriggling if try to feed before its out. Also need to get a new nappy on quickly before first poo or else yellow mustard carnage ensues.

We're off to a tots' disco this morning. Ds1 loves it - proper disco with all birdie song, agadoo and bob the builder type stuff.

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

Hair dyed.

Wheaten bread made ( half already disappeared in the DS1, DH stampede to the kitchen. Have to say that is the greatest form of gratitude)

Special time sounds like a good plan stunt

Congratulations and commiserations for the nights to all.

Back off for nappy duty...............

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

I want to go to a tos disco!

[Passmethecrisps]

Figure it makes P happy so why not?

When P is having her bottles VQ I make lots of 'mm-mm that is deeelishas! Yum yum!' Type chat. More for me than her actually. Glad he took plenty though and that he seems happy. Fingers crossed it continues.

donna everyone has said what needs to be said but I just wanted to say hello and that you are not alone. I took the decision to move P into her own room recently both for my own sanity and her safety. It has been very hard and I am sure that I have spent as much time peering into the cot that I have in my own bed. However, I am trying to hold on the the knowledge that such tragedies are rare, our babies are through the real danger period and I cannot live my life thinking 'what if?' It doesn't stop me doing so but I have a few things I run through in my mind when I am lying in bed. Helps a wee bit.

det I second the suggestion of some carobel in water. You could try in in different amounts to get the right consistency.

Can I borrow the quiche fish for a bit? I would like to gently bosh luis round the noggin. Good sir, you have your hands full and every post you write oozes care, compassion and patience. However, any post which has even a hint of weariness is followed by a self-depreciating apology. You are our night time support - please don't apologise for having a wee online sigh. I often think of you in the middle of the night and even though I don't use my phone when I can't sleep knowing that you and kirrin and other non-sleepers (baby caused or otherwise) are there is a very real comfort.