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StuntNun · 12/04/2013 15:10

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ValiumQueen · 17/04/2013 15:04

Thanks x Yes, I think it is time to stop bf. I will only use it as last resort from herein. I know that is what I need to do and feel sad. I have done well. I am proud of myself for getting this far. J also needs to find other ways to settle. He can self settle when not in pain, and I have thought for a while the boob makes it worse. He has slept through a few times now, and is waking once if at all, so I will have a bottle to hand for a while I think. He is so nearly there. He is so much better it is amazing.

Plan:

Wean from breast starting now. Only whip out baps if J is beyond himself.

Talk to dietician about carobel and Gaviscon, and also about when to re-introduce solids

Have bottle at night feed if needed.

Ask for ranitadine if dietician says so, or if condition indicates. This can only really be ascertained if bf ends.

Thank you all x

MaMaPo · 17/04/2013 15:16

Vq, you sound like a woman with a plan! Am v impressed. I just stumble through this parenting lark.

Bought some crackly silver foil from my local children's centre today. Anyone else got it? C went mad for it, it entertained her for ages. Best £1.50 I've spent recently.

Quick q following the 'signs baby is ready for weaning' conversation. When they say 'able to sit', what do they mean? Not unsupported surely; I know 7 and 78 month olds who can't.

Clarella · 17/04/2013 15:17

oh vq that sounds hard Sad .

my friend who is a pharmacist felt that ranitadine was brilliant (and they tend to be the ones who worry) and ompezeprol even less of a 'drug'. I think I'd feel the same about bf however 6 months is more than many people manage. I'm sure my doc mates at nct said that you double the protection, 1 month is equivalent to 2 and so 6 months gives a year if that makes sense?

oh detective. it's not funny but when you write it it's hard not to giggle

I've missed a bit, I'm not sure they're allowed to call you at home if you're off sick? or is that not yet?

survived school. of course working in the field of sen and sp and lang it was comments like "oo good eye contact, nice verbalising" rather than 'he has your eyes'. Hmm

had to bf in the play therapy room lying down on a bean bag next to a pile of anatomical dolls. Grin

turns out I could have asked to go back full time over the summer holidays and then go part time!!! but I'm not asking for that so hope that curries favour. (

Clarella · 17/04/2013 15:20

x post vq sounds a good plan. bf is so.much more than food I know it's hard to give up. as I say I believe the protection from what you have done lasts the same length of time again {{ }}

Clarella · 17/04/2013 15:21

woo hoo just realised my nipples do not hurt!!!!

PetiteRaleuse · 17/04/2013 15:24

Vq you've done brilliantly, you need to give yourself a break now Flowers

.mamapo they mean sit with some suipport ie in a high chair

Lily311 · 17/04/2013 15:25

I was out but here again. Received the chillipeep, it's cool and i can fit the mam teet in it. Also the sterilised bags, they are rubbish but will be ok in emergency I guess.

chasing my phone number ends in 666 Grin. O's best toy is this:

www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000816J2E/ref=oh_details_o08_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It is inflatable so can be transported. She also loves her fisher price book:

www.amazon.co.uk/Fisher-Price-Laugh-Learn-Storybook-Rhymes/dp/B000OHD1VO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1366208622&sr=8-1&keywords=Fisher+price+storybook+rhymes

Would never pay full price but you can buy them for £4 in charity. I strongly recommend charity shops for toys, they are cheap.

Pikz · 17/04/2013 15:28

VQ in a completely non condescending way I am so so proud of you and all you have achieved xxx

GTbaby · 17/04/2013 15:46

Det. Policy at my mums work states a phone call will b made everyday! Which is ridiculous. If she calls them first then they won't call.
At my work you call on day one and give a rough idea of days. Then they ask day before you come bk you call n confirm, so they can cancel cover teachers.

Went to mother care. Tried LO in bumbo. He doesn't fit. Omg he is a giant baby! Blush

GTbaby · 17/04/2013 16:12

Also if you have a sick note they won't call me at all. N need a fit for work note before returning.

kirrinIsland · 17/04/2013 16:46

detective last time I was on mat leave I found out my whole department was being shut down. I only found out because of a colleague's status update on facebook!
Your fang update did make me laugh - I pity the person who has to call you every day Grin

wrt mixed feeding - I am feeding her when I can but using formula for naps/sleep - she is fussier on the boob but not too bad, but her tendency to snack is definitely increased. I think I expressed the opinion on an old thread that N would be a different baby if bottle fed and I think I was right. She's had a good nights sleep and a good nap and she's a new person - chilled, not clingy at all - and proper ''meals" not snacks seems to be helping with that. I hope to bf for longer but if she decides she prefers the bottle I'm ok with that.

YellowWellies · 17/04/2013 16:51

How am I going to get my little tinker to nap in his cot? Am trying but he just chats even though he's shattered and if I leave the room he weeps..... why am I trying this (and had a day full of shit naps) when DH is working away in thurso tonight. Eegad overtired bedtime will be hell.....

MsJupiterJones · 17/04/2013 17:08

VQ you are obviously so devoted and dedicated to your children, the way you talk about them makes me feel like I know them too. You have done a brilliant job for J and at this stage as others have said you have given him a brilliant start and need to do whatever gives you peace of mind. He's a lucky boy and it sounds like he is doing well on the formula. I sometimes think I have been selfish to keep bf L when he thrives so much on the formula but these decisions are never as straightforward as we would wish! ThanksThanks

MsJupiterJones · 17/04/2013 17:10

YW will he nap in pram? I have given up on cot and instead just use pram for day naps (in nice warm pramsuit with closed sleeves so he can't twat himself in the face...)

TheDetective · 17/04/2013 17:34

YW I find it easier just to put him in it asleep, or just about to fall asleep. He takes 3-5 minutes to rock to sleep, and be put down. He can self settle, but he has to be in the mood for it!

Fatima I saw some short rompers in Sainsburies and thought of you! I'll pop a picture on FB later when my battery has charged!

I've bought O some 6-9 month clothes today. He's almost ready for them - it's his sodding legs! Leggy boy! Mind you, DP has endless legs. What did I expect?!

DS1 was just as tall but he was 4 months when he went in to 3-6, and 7 months for 6-9 mths. Confused

Clarella · 17/04/2013 17:39

a few hours in work has hit me hard. Sad have agreed to a kit day in 2 weeks. the monkey had better sleep soon!! x

ChasingDaisy · 17/04/2013 18:10

Detective O isn't far off 6-9 month clothes either. He's 50th centile for length but its all in his legs! Takes after his mummy - I have a ridiculously short torso and long legs.

TheDetective · 17/04/2013 18:37

I can't complain really, we've got good use out of the 3-6! I put him in them at 7 weeks, and I think he has got another month maximum.

Lily311 · 17/04/2013 19:04

O was crying so much this afternoon. She did not want to be put down. Crashed out at 6.30. It seems that 2 little teeth are breaking through, poor little mite.

I am jealous of long legs. O has mine-short and chunky Grin.

ChasingDaisy · 17/04/2013 19:38

Quick question, I have a headache that paracetamol hasn't shifted. Took it over an hour ago. Can I take ibuprofen as well?

Passmethecrisps · 17/04/2013 19:41

I also picked when DH was away to tackle various sleep issues YW. I am still finding it tricky to get P to take naps in her cot. Exactly the same as J. Blethers and sings while I am there, great heaving sobs when I leave. She needs to be really tired before I can leave the room. I am pretty worn down with it but I do feel it is important to stick with it now we have gone there. I am hoping that gradually she will associate the room with sleeping once the novelty has worn off. In the meantime I have taking to shoosh patting and rocking until very sleepy if I am desperate. Otherwise I just keep popping back in to settle before leaving again.

ChunkyChicken · 17/04/2013 19:43

Not had time yet again to catch up, sorry!!

Just wanted to share the irony I suppose...

After all the weaning discussion & the opting for 1 camp or another stuff, or not, well, you never can tell.

DS is SO ready for food. He almost launched himself off my DM's lap to grab her biscuit, gets grumpy when we're eating, tries to grab your spoon, can almost sit unsupported etc. So I've been doing the food tastes thing with cooked carrot sticks & pear slices, but nothing major.

I bought some baby porridge suitable for before 6mths, which is what I did with DD too, but until now, decided to do BLW as much as poss.

However you can't predict what your baby will be like can you?! DS is really struggling with whole food because of his over-sensitive gag reflex as a result of his tongue tie. He LOVES it though. He takes a loaded spoon and puts it in his mouth by himself, like a pro so can guide the banana to his mouth. He just can't manipulate the big lumps.

So, I have decided to 'amend' BLW Grin I'm going to give him mashed food on a spoon for him to direct into his mouth himself, then in a few wks I'll introduce less "wet" foods, like toast & breadsticks & let him do the BLW thing with those, so he can learn to move his tongue properly on something a bit more substantial.

I'm sharing this, well, because I thought it might help others to know that sometimes you just can't predict what's going to happen & that no 2 babies are the same- what works for one doesn't always work for another. Oh and, there're no hard & fast rules in this baby raising lark. Oh, another one; never say never Wink Grin

Pikz · 17/04/2013 19:45

I have a very long monkey who has been in 6-9 and 6-12 for the last 4 weeks at least and he's not 5 months yet Hmm I realised his next clothes will be the last from the baby section. This made me sad and broody!

Day time naps I have to put down almost asleep to get sleep from him. At night he self settles awesomely and has done since 8 weeks. I need to crack the naps really.

ChunkyChicken · 17/04/2013 19:46

chasing think so. On a full stomach mind. And drink plenty of water. Try a cool pack on the back of your head.

YellowWellies · 17/04/2013 19:46

Am going to try the pram if I can't manage the cot - just need him off me so I can get stuff done. Think putting him down awake to self settle was a bit premature. He can do it at night so I shouldn't complain. He's been clingier since the move - so I guess he's had a lot of change to contend with. Tomorrow he's going into the cot asleep / half asleep and we'll see how it goes. As predicted bath time was emotional!

On the plus side he tried and loved sweet potato puree today Smile even if the puree looked just like the subsequent 3 day poonami Grin

And my dishwasher, washing machine and half of IKEA has been delivered! Huzzah Smile