December 2012 - the fourth trimester is nearly over

[MaMaPo]

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Gales I'm so sorry to hear that, hope she's on mend soon and you and dp are ok.

Take care of yourselves too.

Oh Seymore sorry you're having bad nights still, no doubt we will be back with you soon, he is a big boy though

Ds has fallen asleep at 7:44 (exactly ) for the past three nights. Lets see how it goes tonight!

Poor you seymore get the matchsticks out!

I have a question about putting DS down for the night. I do his bedtime routine - (bath) nappy, jamas, into Moses basket, read story, kiss and music box on. At this point he's usually wide awake and sucking his hands happily. So I leave him to it and just go in if I hear him crying on the baby monitor. Is this okay? He seems fine by himself and is usually asleep in 10 mins but DP sits with him so on his nights he can be in there for around an hour before he drops off. You don't have to stay with them do you? I think DP is just disturbing him by staying in there.

hales how awful, do hope she's feeling better soon.

WillYou I used to leave dd like that and she's always been really good at going to bed. I think it's fine as you go in if he cries

Thanks Spotty. Hopefully you've cracked it and we will too! Great news on the cot sleeping! I still need to put ours up, DS is in a cradle at the moment.

Hales I'm glad she's ok, that must have been really worrying. I hope you're getting a well deserved sleep!

Willyou If he's happy then stay out of there! DD needed me in the room to nod off from the age of 1 until she was almost 2 and it was a nightmare. Of course sometimes they do need you, but if they're not complaining then beat a retreat!

Coolio was hoping you'd say that. He's such a star, MiL has just rung, on the house phone, which is in our room where he's asleep. He was crying his eyes out, quick cuddle and straight back to sleep. MiL did have the cheek to say I left it til this late as I thought he'd be in bed! Yes he was, until you woke him!

Chloe - ha, think you could be right about the revenge thing. Hope your DD is ok.

Hales - that must have been really scary. Will keep fx for you that H gets better soon.

Honey - as the owner of an early teether (first two at three months, whole set inc molars by 18 months) I would agree that your HV is talking rot. Given that some DC are born with teeth, you've got to wonder where some of them get their info from. Hope D isn't suffering too much.

Willyou - I think it's great that J can self-settle and agree you should leave him to it. He'll let you know pretty quickly if he needs anything!

willyou that's perfect, a fab habit to encourage. If he's happy then do it, he'll let you know if he needs/wants you. I'm still so hoping that dd will find her thumb so she doesn't need my boob to drop off. Am sceptical though as dd1 didn't get hers til 8 months and dd2 never got hers, finally accepted a dummy at 8 months when I stopped bfing. Still, boobs are great though aren't they?!

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Wl, I need your attitude. I try to remember to just roll with things but I do get quite envious of parents with babies who know how to sleep. C is going through a tough time of not being able to sleep without bfing, and actually getting quite angry when sleepy. Then I get frustrated. I just can't see how she'll improve.

Willyou, that means I'm deeply envious of you!

Sorry mama, if it makes you feel better we got up at 4 this morning with night terrors. Truly horrific, he was hysterical and all you can do is cuddle until they calm down.

I was told I was going to make him clingy (by my cousin) this week as I don't like leaving him/don't want him in his own room. Although I don't care how clingy he is, the more time he wants to spend with me the better.

MaMa I think getting angry when sleepy is the crux of our pram screaming problem. I took DS out in the pram this morning to do the school run. He'd been chilled all morning and was ready for a nap so I thought it might work. It backfired spectacularly!

Well ds woke at 11:30, he woke the same time last night so I didn't wait for him to cry it's still not really late is it? I will definitely wait next time he stirs though

mama dd is my 3rd so I truly know that fighting with them at this age is a waste of time and that all tricky phases will pass. Any behaviours you really can't deal with for a while after they reach 6 months can be changed. I know when you are in middle of a tricky phase it feels like it will last forever, but I promise, one way or another it won't!

Thanks, WL, that's exactly what i needed to hear

Echoing pidj. I just feel that there's a 'just wait until...' milestone that's always about 12 bloody weeks away! :) I am not a patient person!

I feel a bit confused when people say 'oh, enjoy this time, it goes by so fast!' when the last 3 months feel like they've taken... 3 months to elapse!

Seymore, snap! I think I'm going to try C in the pram seat instead of carrycot. Instructions say not until 6 months but she's almost grown out if it already. One of the NCT mums had the same screaming issue which resolved by changing the seat. I don't think it'll fix everything but worth a try.

I can hear Big Ben chiming. He's saying 'what the fuck are you all doing up at this hour!?' :)

Hi everyone just had a catch up. Sorry to hear of non sleeping babies, teething babies and poorly babies, but yay for babies self settling, sleeping and happier babies.

Ds2 had his 2nd injections today and was much better than last time. He only screamed for about a minute not half an hour and he hasn't had any adverse reaction so far this time around.

I'm taking the day off work today :) me and ds2 are going to head into town to do some charity shop trawling. I can't wait.

Oh and my SIL had her baby yesterday. A 9lb 10pz baby girl who had to come out of the sunroof. She was 62 cm long!! (Ds2 is that length now at 12 weeks!! my SIL is only 5 foot 2!! Double

mama dd has been in the pushchair part of the pram fir a few weeks, she hated the carry cot, I think it's because she's so bloody nosey! I just pack out the sides with blankets so she doesn't flop about and have the back slightly tilted so she can see what's going on.

Congrats to your sis, 9lb 10oz on a 5'2'' lady would def have been a push! I'm 5'5'' and only just squeezed out my ds, he did get stuck though and had to be dramatically ripped out , thank god dd was only 8lb 5oz!

Well I would have tried the 'leave to murmur' technique however dd turned each murmur into a cry Intervals were mire like 2.5hrs than 1.5-2hrs though and to be honest I think she's a bit under the weather.

MaMa It's definitely worth a try. I tried switching the pram to pushchair mode a couple of weeks ago, it worked at first but then it didn't. So I've just switched it back! The only real way to stop him yelling while we're out is to wear him. But it's 28 degrees outside and I end up drenched in sweat!!

I agree with WL, while I love a good moan about the lack of sleep etc. I know there's nothing I can do but ride it out until the phase passes. The funny thing about having a big age gap is I look at my older DCs who sleep 7pm-7am, use the toilet, eat their veg, go off to school without complaint etc. etc. and I look at DS and I can't quite believe it. I'm not super mum (FAR from it) they just got there in their own time.

Oh yes Seymore I love a good moan about lack of sleep it will all be a distant memory in a year though I hope

Well ds woke every three hours which is fine but I couldn't get back to sleep then dd came in about fifteen minutes ago and woke ds up

IsThat that's impressive! Your SIL must have been really uncomfortable when pregnant!

Mamapo honestly it does go so quick! If you want to spend time getting C into a routine for naps etc then do. I did it with dd and it was hard work and it meant I had to arrange my day around it but I really liked knowing where I was etc and she always went down without a fuss until she stopped napping quite recently. Ds, however, just has to fit in with the rest of us but if I see an opportunity like yesterday to get him to nap in the cot I will do it!

I can't remember when to take the newborn head support out of the car seat? When ds has a chunky cardi on he's really squashed but in worried when he's asleep his head will really flop!

Good to think 'this too shall pass', although we are also lucky from having been trained by a hideous degree process to think of three hours sleep a night as a triumph, so feel okay with an aggregate of 6 in 3-4 small batches. Great to hear of steps forward for people and commiserations on difficulties...

O just had a proper meltdown this evening (i suspect wind related, which we did eventually resolve,) but then slept 11-2.30 and 3-6am which he never manages! Not great by many of your babies' standards but ace for us.

Off to see a friend who's due a week tomorrow! V excited for them as she's been looking forward to having a family for years and she'll be a really lovely mother. Means taking O on the train from Manc to Bristol though, eek! He still hates the car seat to thought this would be easier but we'll see. Planning to wear him there and back..

Poosplosion! Run for the hills!

Is R being a tricky pickle pidj?

T was a monkey after her 2.15 feed and took an hour to go back down. Really hoping she'll have a nap in her car seat or cot today, dd2 really needs some lap time.

I'm having real problems sleeping ATM. After waking at 2 mon morning and not getting back to sleep, mon night I managed to sleep ok after putting DS in with us to co-sleep as I was too tired to sit and feed. Then DS woke at 3.30 this morning and I haven't been back to sleep I have however got some DVDs written to post off for work and cleaned the kitchen and washed up (this is normally done at breakfast time).

Oh and I must have fed off the wrong boob at 3.30, the left was rock hard by the time he woke at 6.15. He's still managed to drain it though!

Oh and what's the consensus on this situation:

DH gave DS a bottle last night while I was at tesco getting petrol. All fine and dandy. But when washing up this morning I realise he's used a bottle from the side that was rinsed out after use last week but not washed or sterilised. DS is fine, he's not ill because of it. But what should I do? Bring it up with DH, or just leave it and make sure I don't leave unwashed bottles around. Tbh he could have washed it up before using it. But I very much doubt he did!