November 2012 - Guess what we were doing this time last year

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1680077-November-2012-More-group-hugs-and-moral-support-please

Fanjo physio - pelvic floor physio, hopefully to heal my broken pee pipe! And get back some tone to my bladder, so I can feel the need to wee, and don't have pain when weeing any more. Also, to stop the leaking and wetting oneself.

I hope.

I need a body transplant. :(

Hello,

Just checking in before hopefully doing a successful transfer and heading to bed. I have skim read but I'm not completely caught up as usual

MM and glenda I hope you are both feeling better xx

Dull day here. Poor DD1 has a molar coming through and is miserable :(
N has hardly slept all day. I wish that meant she'd sleep all night to make up for it but it doesn't usually work like that! In fact, DP has her for a couple of hours tomorrow morning while I do my interview so I expect she'll have a good sleep then!

Just tried on the bottle with a bit of success. She had an oz. which I know isn't much at all but it's better than nothing. She didn't spit the teat out crying so if I try regularly she may get used to it. I think with caelic I need to reduce gluten from my diet. I'm now thinking she may have silent reflux as she has a lot of symptoms, however she doesn't appear in pain so if she does it can't be very severe.

horsey in answer to your question if i didn't know how little she was gaining, no I probably wouldn't be that concerned. She's getting longer, is very smiley and cries very little so no, I really wouldn't think there was anything wrong with her. Other than the fact she's still in newborn clothes and everyone mentions how small she is. DD1 was quite small anyway, but nowhere near this size!

Thanks all for your advice and support. I'll keep you updated as the saga continues but for now i will be thankful that I have a happy giggly baby who is farting on me and finding it hilarious as we speak

Quickly checking in. Both DC have colds and are grotty and snotty and miserable. Poor little things.

Cooking day here and filling the chest freezer.

apple snap last year I had been trying to conceive for a year and was making doctors appointment... I actually had a blood test when I was pregnant and didn't know but felt dizzy!
I called the docs after finding out to cancel further test and v nice but ditzy receptionist congratulating me and then she said oh the result of the test was fine! no s* !!

Woah where is everyone? in the land of nod is hope [aside:no I don't ]
my dd seemed like she was sooo ready to go down at 12 but dh coughed her awake ... I even told him I thought I could murder him rocked her back to sleep on my legs (knees up) but now awaiting dh next sneeze or cough -which will be his last-

DS is feeding like mad despite seeming happy with the dummy when he woke. Perhaps this will mean a better night?

pikz I too would focus on the details - that's the nature of the beast post-baby unfortunately. No more flying by the seat of your pants & getting up & going, even popping to the shop can be a mission. It seems IMO quite selfish to be talking about this now but is it more 'I'd like to do this at some point in the future ' with the last bit unsaid? Something my DH tends to do. I'm brilliant but I'm not bloody psychic!! It would totally depend on the details, to me, to know whether its something I could get on board with or not...

Eliza shame you have no answers. March isn't that far away & surely if they're bothered about it that much, they'd give you an earlier appt? Of course you can't be expected to sit & wait for hours with a baby and toddler. Could you get a babysitter? Hugs though, it must be difficult.

Meant to add, had some bubbly, Chinese, trifle & a cuddle on the sofa with DH after dc in bed. Lovely.

Night all.

hope this transfer has worked

dd usually goes down 11.30 on the dot!

anyone else's lo still cluster feed most of the eve feeling very alone right now *stands in corner looking down - shuffles feet

chunky your night sounds great any part of it a euphemism? cuddle and truffle on the sofa?

I haven't triffled for months ... least there is no chance of me joining the Nov 13 thread !!!

J woke at 12.30 and 2. He still cluster feeds at 16 weeks.

kyz I will be 44 in April.

I now have a throat and ear infection. Fucking pissed off with being poorley. Having poor sleep will not be helping.

Those who FF at night, do you let baby howl while you fetch bottle? Or do you take them with you? Seriously tempted to give up bf but it is easy to produce a tit and if he had to wait, the whole house would be up.

Chocolate gives R colic waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Hedge End is just off the M27. Junction 9 maybe?

Hi all, just skimming and catching up. Late to the thankful party but I am just thankful for my two gorgeous kids - and for g's hip dysplasia being caught and treated early.

G def wasn't conceived yet this time last yr as I was in hospital with dd1 for her hip op which was on valentines day. I was terrified while she was under and felt physically sick till she was back with me. Not a valentines day I will forget in a hurry. We had already been in for a week while she was in traction before the op - and we were in 4 days after for recovery - during which time noro hit the wards - nice! We escaped before we succumbed luckily. We had been planning to wait till may when dd would be out of cast to try for another - but the cast was lighter than we had thought it would be so rashly we gave it a shot (we had thought dd would be walking by now though)! Think we only dtd once or twice - it took a couple if years to get dd so we were quite shocked surprised!. pr I can relate to your worries re loving a second as much - I was really scared about that too. Funny how it works though eh? Sometimes I feel my heart will explode with love for them both now!

Coeliacs - dh is a coeliac and we were worried re dd so didn't introduce gluten for a year. Will prob do same with g. Dd has had the blood test now which was negative. The advice I read at the time in the coeliac uk magazine is that it doesn't show till gluten is introduced - no probs re breast milk. We were worried at the time as dd had really crap weight gain too. Feel your pain Eliza I felt totally under the microscope re weigh ins. We got to the point where I had to keep a log of ebm top ups and get a certain vol in each day. Can't believe how much easier it is this time - g weighed more at his 6 wk check than dd did at 6 months! Another thing to be thankful for...

Not thankful for g's cold and 2 feeds before 3am. Hope not to be reading any more before the morning proper!

J is still cluster feeding Contra (Zcos). He fed from 7-8.30 then again 10:30-11 then again 12-1 last night. I am on my knees with it now with less than five hours a night. I got upset yesterday when he just wouldn't go to sleep in the afternoon and took all three out in the car just to get him to sleep which lasted ten minutes. At midnight DH asked whether he should give him a bottle so I could get some sleep. A bit late by then. I'm going to be in seriously bad shape tomorrow. If DH wants to go and visit his parents tomorrow afternoon I'm going to explode. They live ten miles away and we have to beg for every crumb of help from them. His mum would rather stress and worry over her granddaughter that was stillborn last year than be here for her three grandsons that are having a tough time at the minute. My mum is more help than her and she lives in Manchester.

VQ I leave him to cry. Sometimes it doesn't become a cry. He tends to shout demand instead now. Saying that he cried tonight although I was sure I woke at his first snuffle like a pig noises.

It takes me 7 minutes for the kettle to boil and for the water to warm the feed. In the 4 minutes it takes to warm feed I go the loo and scoff biscuits do a quick nappy change as he has usually been in it for 7-8 hours.

Having done both, I miss not getting out of bed. Whipping tits around is definitely easier (if not more painful... Tit whipping...)

Right. Back to sleep.

I'm up. :(

Not sure I understand babies at all.

At 9-10wks, DS went from about 11/12-6 so a good 6/7hrs and 1 night did 9hrs. Then at 11wks regressed a bit with I think an early 12wk growth spurt. Then went back to going a good stretch from 8/9-4/5 on average.

Now at 13.5wo, we're doing 4.5hrs again. Last night I didn't feed him & he kept waking/needing a dummy. Tonight I've tried feeding, longer sleep, but still we're now on feed #2 since he went to bed at 8pm. Despite feeding for a massively long time then.

I just don't understand. He can go longer. Could it be a growth spurt? Iirc he seemed to 'spurt' at 5wks then again 7, but both times for a day or 2. Clearly if he needs feeding, that's fine, but why all of a sudden??!!

Maybe this is the 4mth sleep regression early & relatively painlessly?

If DS is twice the weight than DD was, and see slept through regularly by the time she was this weight, why isn't he?!!

VQ at the moment I cheat and use cartons so they are room temp already. When I get used to it I shall use horseys method of cool bag upstairs and change nappy whilst heating.

Horsey holidaying in essence and he would work a bit. I so love to ski and the alps but obviously both a lot harder with baby and my big issue is what you said the isolation. Also the pressure will be on from DP to leave him with people so we can ski together.

I'm going in a months time for a week. I have told him he can't mention it again til I have survive that.

contra N still cluster feeds at 14 weeks.

stunt :( Shame about the in laws. It must be frustrating to have family reasonably close by and still no help.

I too am averaging 5 hours sleep a night, mostly in 2 or 3 chunks. It's exhausting and very frustrating. I need to tackle it but I don't know where to start. At 14 weeks she went to sleep in her cot the earliest she ever has last night - 11! And she was up again at 1. She can do 4 hours in a row but mostly its more like 2 or 3.

VQ Hope you feel better quickly. When I switched DD1 onto formula I used ready made cartons over night to avoid her screaming while I made a feed up. They're obviously more expensive but she was only having 1 or 2 feeds a night by then.

chunky no advice I'm afraid - as someone who has a 14 week old whose sleeping habits haven't really improved since being born I am clearly clueless! I really was hoping for longer stretches by now.

VQ I have a bottle warmer upstairs so I just take the powder up and make up the feed upstairs and put it in the bottle warmer, that way I can have S on my lap which calms her a bit.

We're still cluster feeding at 16 weeks. I asked the dietician about it yesterday and was assured at this stage, even though he's only 25th centile its just for comfort and on the nights I don't want to do it - to just unlatch him when he's suitably drowsy. I let him do it for an hour last night, unlatched, swaddled, relatched for 10 mins, unlatched at 9pm and he's just woken for his first feed .bliddy brilliant - will be unlatching every night if he sleeps like this. Have norks like boulders mindst!

yw evil the luck of it is I can blame any stupidity on baby brain. now how long can I make tar last I wonder!

Dixie is worse when the toddler doesn't even like sausages! strange DD1

contra 4 hours of constant feeding last night, I thought my boobs were going to fall off.

BUT....she slept from 9.30-3.30, quick feed then back (in her crib) until 7

can't believe how many cluster feed still weeks ahead of mine in age (dd 10 wk old) yw I will definitely have to try that technique my dd was going 7-11 almost non stop didn't do it last night as dh was home later and we had food delivery so he distracted her whilst I relaxed ate chocolate for a bit. but then she wouldn't go down and ended up sleeping at 2 kept having to boob her.
I think it is partially filling her tank but definitely comfort to and makes me feel and think I would feel.guilty if I stopped her doing it.
vq me too re giving up ... think that I have gone 10 wks- your longer? soo I was thinking of trying a little formula on Sunday mid day whilst dh is here for support to share the burden of guilt and then I have that to fall back on. dh can give some some evenings and cuddle her too (she seems very bonded to him- pleased to see him etc). Think if I don't face the hours of feeding in the eve I will be a mum as I dread it I dread coming to bed knowing I face hours of feeding still at 9.30.
still feel worried and guilty at even the thought of it though!!

dh is hobling round the place...ankle playing up again he is feeling very sorry for himself I however am not ... its like he is deliberately doing all he can to wake dd in and out of room etc ... grr