October 2012... PELVIC FLOORS!

[Londonmrss]

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And squeeze!

bora we've had a lot of that recently, kind of chatting, kind of whining which could end in a smile or crying. It's like she's not too sure how she's really feeling.

This thread moves too quickly to catch up with everyone!

We've been to our swimming lesson this morning which was nice although there was a slightly stressful changing room issue. Only 2 cubicles with a baby changing table, both were being used when we got out of the pool. My friend and I stood for ages with our babies waiting and it turns out that both mums in the changing rooms were feeding their babies after they had got them changed. Where's the common sense in that, surely they could have used a different cubicle for feeding or gone to the cafe instead. We glared at them when they eventually came out.

For those that do baby sensory, I'm tempted to sign up - is it good? Should we do it?

Quick questions for those breastfeeding - how many feeds a day are you doing now? How long do they last on average and does your baby regurgitate much afterwards?

smorgs- babyLondon is 17 weeks. feeds usually 6 or 7 times a day for around 5, occasionally up to 10 minutes. A little mouthful of pukiness after each, usually if I've jiggled or bounced her to soon after a feed.

first yes, hair shedding at an alarming rate here too. Seems to be ending now, lasted about a fortnight but copious amounts everywhere. Pulling out handfuls from the hairbrush every day. I knew it was coming but still quite dramatic.

YES! YES! Hair falling out everywhere here!

Happy 17th week birthday to your DD Londonmrs! She was born on the 24th, right?

4 months seems like such a long time ... It's going so fast!

Today I have a cold so I stayed at home all day which is rare, only ventured out to get Disprin and beer (to have with dinner, not during the day!!) and I made cake. Banana cake with lemon icing. I put a tiny bit of mashed banana on my finger for DS to suck and he loved it

Curious to hear why it is such a glorious day, huffle

zara Smorglet was born on 24th, I think baby London was born a couple of days later? My hair isn't falling out - should I be concerned?! I have just had a lot of it chopped off though...

OK I'm a bit behind for a full catch up, but elpis I'm so sorry your work has been so shit. But had you really broken any rules? Like you said, you were just keeping contacts informed. What people choose to retweet and comment on is their business and out of your control. I wouldn't lose all hope straight away, although that is great you've already got freelance work lined up if necessary. The lady I mentioned out here seems to have quite a steady stream of work, and most of it is generated from former contact from her time at the paper. I have no idea what I am going to do. If I'm honest, I never thought I was very good at my job. I tried but, you know, it just seemed to come a lot more naturally to other people. I'm happy to take a bit of time out and procrastinate for now....

squid I saw your friends interviewed on TV, it was just heartbreaking. I can't imagine what they must be going through. You must be feeling terrible about it too.

Reason I ask about feeding is the paediatrician told me I was feeding too often today. He has said this before, then I got the number of feeds down to about 6/8. But now we are back up to 8/10 as he is feeding overnight. He asked about vomiting and I said he was regurgitating often and quite a lot after feeds. He asked if he cried a lot after feeds - I hadn't really noticed. He cries quite a lot, quite a lot of the time! So he has prescribed some reflux medicine for us to try. His weight gain is fine - he is 5.9kg so he has gained 400g in the last month. I feel guilty for not having noticed reflux earlier - I suspected it a while ago, but because he was gaining weight I thought maybe I had been wrong. What are the side effects of reflux med? Constipation? londonmrss thanks for your reply.

PS I'm invited to a party tomorrow - remember them? I have to wear a dress and everything. Part of me doesn't actually want to go and leave Smorglet...

smorgs, Zara, cherry, Oren and anyone else with babies born at a similar time to mine (26th) - any sign of that dreaded 4 month sleep regression yet?

London DD was born on 22nd. About 2 weeks ago I had 3 or 4 nights of refusing to settle at bedtime and multiple wake ups so wondered if that was the 4 month regression. The night before last, had loafs of wake ups so wondered if it was again but last night was a good one so just don't know. She's 4 months today so terrified of it kicking in.

Was going to ask you what your sleep was like as our DDs sound similar and know you're BF too.

DS born on the 28th. Between mid-Jan and us getting back/him getting over jetlag he woke once in the night for a feed (after going down for the night by 7pm). Since then he's done 12 hours every night. I lie in wait for sleep regression, and expect every good night to be our last! I have slippers and dressing gown next to my bed, and the water measured in the bottle warmer ready to go at night...

It's like waiting for the scary bit of a horror movie

Zara At that horror movie description, that's exactly what it's like. DD's not a great sleeper anyway so a regression from that would definitely be horrific!

Our sleep is fairly consistent. Bed at 7pm, dream feed at 10pm, wakes for a feed around 4am, then wakes for god between 6 and 7am. Not amazing, but pretty good and wasn't even messed up by moving house. I'm still in denial about the 4 month thing but no one else seems to have avoided it so am trying to mentally prepare.

Love that description zara!!

Well smorglet's sleep has definitely regressed, but it happened a few weeks ago now. Please god it can't get any worse?! Until about Christmas he was going 8-2 then waking about 5 and then about 8. Then the magical magical two weeks of sleeping through happened when I became a smug mummy and you all probably wanted to punch me in the chops! But that stopped in late January. He last slept through the night before my birthday on jan 24. Since then he does an initial 3 hrs then its wildly unpredictable - up every hour, two hours whatever. I really hope you skip this bit for your sake, you don't deserve it with all the feeding issues you had. I feel lucky I haven't really had any other problems so ill just have to ride this out. smiley deserves a fricking medal!

*Wakes for good. Not god. I don't need divine intervention upsetting her sleep pattern not to mention my atheism.

hugs to huffle smiley and smorgs to getting through the night. DD has also started waking every 2-3 hrs at night, and is really grumpy when she wakes too. I usually get away with a pick up and shhhhh for 5 mins though, although I'm sure she'd be delighted if I fed her (I don't think she's waking because she's hungry and kinda hoping to avoid going back to that). I know I can't complain cos we've had a pretty good run for the past month, but still, it's amazing how much difference it makes not having a good stretch of sleep. So I have no idea how you ladies who are back at work are managing!

Does anyone else have a baby that is really grumpy when waking from naps? DD often cries as she's waking up, usually stops once she's fully awake but turns into total meltdown at least once a day. I wonder if babies get that kinda foggy 'i can't wake up' feeling and that's why she's upset. Arghhhh i just wish they could talk to us

firsttime I'm moulting like crazy here... worse than having a long haired cat! Started about a month ago and no sign of stopping either. Lucky I have plenty to lose

smorgs DD feeds 8 times a day on average, more if I have to do a night feed too. Feeds are quick, mostly done in 5 mins, sometimes sucks a little bit longer just for fun I think! I have read that some babies don't show signs of pain from reflux until over 3 months old (don't know how this is possible) and think my DD was like that too, so don't feel guilty for not getting DS medicated sooner. I find it difficult to decide sometimes if DD is screaming due to reflux pain or just being a grump so blame reflux if she is being more spewey than normal or I can hear the milk coming up and getting reswallowed

zara at waiting for scary bits of horror movie... I totally get that feeling every night when I go to bed!

Smile someone posted on here while back about his baby was out if sorts as woke from one of naps grumbling or crying....... I laughed out loud, I did!! We have a cross crying waker here too! In cot, car seat or pram. Only time he doesn't is when I've taken him in to my bed after 6am waking. He then sleeps v v peacefully til about 8.30 and wakes smiling...... Perhaps I should hav co slept after all!!!!

Thanks for good luck. He's been a grumpy sod this eve, I think I need it......!

Ha! Don't deserve a medal and am certainly not superwoman. Managed today at work without falling asleep - a particular highlight was squatting on the floor in the disabled toilet to express milk - but then came home and was so knackered I was a complete grumpy cow to everyone. Dh now gone out for a quick drink with a friend (to his credit not until I'd had some tea and both children settled in bed) but he forgot to kiss me goodbye so I spent a good half hour crying because probably none of them love me any more and I feel like a rubbish mum / wife. Am aware that this is irrational tiredness talking but still...
Please can we have a better night tonight? Please? Really starting to feel like I'm struggling to cope, there is just too much to do. We are meant to be trying to sell the house and need to get it tidied and decluttered for estate agent photos - just feels impossible today.

smorgs ds has reflux. I too wasn't really worried as he was gaining weight, looked happy etc but the vom was getting out of control so I mentioned it to the hv. She went very pale and told me to hurry to the gp!! I made an appointment for later in the week, he vommed all over the gp (having had an outfit change 20mins previous for the same reason). He was prescribed infant gaviscon which has been wonderful in reducing the sickness and he has been happier. Saying that he's been a bit grumpy today :(

Sorry pressed post too soon!!!

It has made him constipated. His poo looks like oxo cubes obviously not square lol but colour wise. Though today it was really hard. I'm going to try giving one sachet with food which the gp said to do. Hopefully this will help him.

On falling out hair - my hairdresser is on maternity leave at the mo so she is at babygroups. We were asking about hair and she said something about normally people lose so many hairs a week but when you're pregnant you stop losing them - hence some people get fab thick hair. Then after about 4 months you start losing all the hairs you should have lost over the previous year so looks quite scary - but you're only losing what you would have lost anyway. So basically don't panic! It can go on until 7-8 months apparently, I'm still losing loads but not as many as a few weeks back.

Smorgs currently about 6 feeds a day BUT she'll go up to 8 or 9 if growth spurt so don't worry!

In hotel room in near darkness so bean can sleep. Everyone else down in bar including DH who doesn't even drink! :( Decided to stick to routine in hope of decent night / not rocking the boat. Can't complain, she made it to 10pm before getting the screamies and went to bed in travel cot. She also went in swimming pool for first time and loved it - even got dunked under without going mental :)

I had two glasses of wine and feel quite zonked! Will have to build the old tolerance up once no longer BFing! :o

Posting mid catch up - elpis and worried for you. Should you get legal advice? Have you a union?
london how do you accidentally get e tattoo on your arse??? I'm picturing a dolphin - but I lack imagination.
Baby also sleeping better here but mum lying awake sometimes for hours . Result - I'm still knackered.

Yes to hair loss here too. It could be the trauma of the birth - I'd believe it. 'Normal' birth my ass. No bald patches but hair everywhere.

Right. Baby went to sleep at 9. Not a murmur.
Feed at 12.15. Big feed.
Mother still awake at 2.30 - just can't sleep
Baby wakes at 3, mother wakes from deep sleep. Seriously f*ing pissed. Baby has 2 blocked nostrils and face all scratched!!!

Calpol, face cream, nose spray, small feed, socks on hands.
Baby now asleep.
Mammy waiting to calm down to get some sleep!

Despite being in bed at 11.30, I think I have gotten about 20 mins sleep. [scream emoticon]