October 2012... PELVIC FLOORS!

[Londonmrss]

Ready...
Steady...
And squeeze!

londonmrs Please dont be offended but I m sat here chuckling about you having a stretch mark on your arse under your tatoo....even though I ve got plenty of my own stretch marks.

@ arse tattoo stretch marks

I have a delightful ring of stretch marks from my hips round to the front. It gives me the jelly belly that requires M&S mum jeans to hold it in

october sounds like you have what I have - de Quervain tendinitis. I've got to go and have the joints injected with cortisone it's got so bad .

Baby is being an utter nightmare. Whining all day, hysterical sobbing in the evening. It's just awful. I want to give her back

Horsey I'm going to give him a go with a couple of teaspoons of baby rice this weekend. If he pushes it out of his mouth, I will stop and wait another week or so. If he eats it I will keep going every day with a couple of teaspoons baby rice for a couple of weeks. Will then do simple veggie purees eg carrot, sweet potato made with formula to be very runny.

Will do veggies before fruit so he gets a taste for savoury things. Health nurse in Ireland and in NZ advised this as babies quickly learn that fruit tastes sweeter and nicer than veggies! A mum at my baby group said she started with fruit with her son and then battled to get him to eat veggies, so she's done it the other way round with her DS.

Am actually very interested to see how weaning goes for all of us! Ie starting at different ages, some doing BLW, others purees etc etc!! I think it's interesting anyway

so do all babies get constipated when moving to formula? ie not just those on neocate.
and how long does it take to adjust?

I want my happy baby back.

Bora arrgh I feel your pain, DS was super screamy this evening. I actually said to him "why are you crying like this, eh? Why? It hurts mummy's ears..."

Going to get to bed soon after folding Laundry Mountain

Horsey also don't feel pressured to start weaning any earlier than you think is right for DS

smiley how's your DD? Croup is very scary! MIL likes to tell how my DH was in hospital for a week with croup at 9m and they couldn't keep the mask on him! Toerag . I was a volunteer ambulance officer (volunteers make up about 50% of the NZ ambulance crew) before I had DD and we had a couple of call outs for croup too. Sound so terrible! Despite what I know, I think it'd be totally different if it was my own DD

londonmrss I moved town 3hrs on a very windy road away from my friends when I went on mat leave, and live 40mins drive from nearest town now. The only things that stop me going nuts are the internet looser and the baby groups in town... I meet up with 2 different groups, not both every week, but they totally save my sanity! On nappies... I do rinse the poo off before I put in bucket, but only cos I'm a bit paranoid about it clogging up my machine!

zara DD had uneven thigh creases too and had a scan about 3 weeks ago, they look at the position of the ball of the hip in the socket. I think angelico is in NI and they are waiting to 6m to do an xray, which checks same thing so maybe you are the same? It's much less common for boys to have hip problems though. most of the uneven creases are totally fine and just due to being chubby so don't scare yourself like I did with Dr google on the braces/casts! So are you going to start weaning soon? And on the conflicting advice! But that's good news on the RTW front at least!

orenishii I think your DM has just forgotten... I think we are kinda programmed to do that too, or we'd never have more than 1 baby. I honestly don't remember my labour as being painful, although the logical part of my brain tells me that it was And winter never helped anyone's mood/tiredness!

crazy don't worry about what your DM said, being close to your children is about so much more than just that 1st year of life. The fact that you love him so much now more than makes up for your early feelings (which you had no control over) and that is what he will grow up knowing and feeling

Give it a week or so Livy, their tums take time to adjust. But any concern call your GP! The FF poo process generally is different, it's thicker and baby strains/makes poo faces - quite different to bf babies. As long as they go once every 2-3 days and the poos are soft, you're grand!

Oh I won't!! I think about 5months ish when we get back from France!! That's my plan anyway. If he grabs it earlier he does. At the moment I don't feel he needs to.

london ds is slightly constipated on gaviscon. This was introduced a week ago, ive just given a small amount of cooled boiled water to help. Ff was his first drink seeing as he would latch on and I couldn't get anything off my breasts. He was mix fed with expressed and breast for a couple of weeks but I just never produced the milk. I would guess in such a sluglish digestive system any small changes could make a huge difference. Especially with a formula like the prescription one. It's horrid seeing them in pain though :(

Thank you smile, you stopped me just before I started the self-destructive Dr Google process. You also made DH feel better, he was very very upset about it.

at accidental tattoo

october friend of mine has de Quervain's too... (mummy's thumb!) she has found that splints have helped heaps

this thumb thing- can someone tell me if I have it? my thumb seems to dislocate every time I move it and it clicks and is really painful right up my wrist on the thumb side, sometimes up to the elbow. it started when lo was refusing to feed and the only way she would feed was if I stood rocking her so I was doing that several times a day for several weeks.I thought it was a representative strain injury but it's getting worse every day. I'd that the thing you're talking about? I didn't know out was a thing.

Gah!!! You lot are impossible posters!!! Totally unable to process so much, over 2 days behind I think.

Only this. Livvy I was at GP yesterday with DS about few things. Timing was good to discuss constipation with ff. he has been on 1 bottle for just over a week. 2nd intro 2 days ago. Had only had 2 poos and they were traumatic. What was awful was his obvious discomfort. Grunting and pushing and nothing happening. Never anything like that before. GP reassured me that all babies changing to any formula have this. It is not 'bad' formula, it is different to BM. He said that come intro of solids it is all different again and gut needs to adapt. He suggested watering it down by one quarter and gradually changing. I know you plan to put neocate in ebm, so bit different but I'm sure would work? Worth checking. He said the extra fluid helps keep things moving. He also suggested tiny amount of pure orange in water (10%) to act as v gentle laxative. I was a bit at this! But he is young and well informed and has 2 babies st home. Don't know if this would be wise given your dd and her intolerances.

That was yesterday morning. He had about 10ml water with drop of juice yesterday afternoon and did a mighty poo soon after. Last nights gormula was dilute and he did another one this morning!! Much less grunting going on!! And this is only a day in. So hopefully we are improving. I will gradually reduce the dilution. Don't plan to use the OJ again unless he stuck. And I don't know about anyone else but constipated baby means v sore nipples for mummy as he pulls and pushes while feeding to help him go. Not nice!!

Please don't be put off or think you doing her harm. It is a transition and in the scheme of things will go quickly.

Good luck! X

Quick post and run - we are heading away this weekend to a hotel with whole family in law and am packing madly. Also need to start strimming the hair off myself for the pool which will take all night

London didn't know it was Cambridge you moved to! I lived there for a few years and it's gorgeous but centre can be very student dominated. Definitely get yourself along to a baby group or two when you can. You'll meet some really quirky people there I bet :) They'll have lots of baby yoga type stuff too - lots of hippies around :o

Zara skin folds here and as smile said we are waiting for XRay once she's six months and boys are less likely to get hip stuff. There's a wee baby in our baby group with brace on. It looks awful and is a pain for her mum to get nappies on - but the baby is completely unbothered by it! It helps her sit up like stabilisers on a bike :o And ditto the 'don't give your baby tea' here - you can't move anywhere on the isle of ireland without being offered a brew :o

This is the 5th time I've been up. Third feed. I know it's not the case but I really have to ask myself what I'm doing wrong. He is waking up so so angry. I am so tired. Really exhausted. At least it's the weekend tmrw and DH will be up with him. But he still needs fed. And overnight bottles do f all as he still feeds to sleep.

I'm not looking for replies. Everybody has their own woes and I've not had much time to be supportive lately. I just needed to get it out.

I don't even think its a phase. Going on too long. Nothing beyond 3 hrs really. Think i just have a crap sleeper. And no point trying to let him cry a bit. Crying to get to sleep in first place is totally different to night wakings. I really would be being cruel if I didn't lift him. Yes it was consistently worse for 10 days around 15 weeks but really not mega improved.

Sorry. Me me.

Hi huffle.me too. I know that probably isn't much comfort but I could have written your post. 3 hrs now counts as a really good stretch. Mind you, dd1 was an appalling sleeper as a baby but fab from toddlerhood on. Fingers crossed!
Baby on my lap feeding and sounding a bit wheezy but loads better. Big girl still temp of 40 last time she got up. Have to leave for work at 7am. However, looking at today's timetable there are regular coffee breaks scheduled - yay!
Anyway rambling now, but you made me feel a bit better huffle so thank you for the company!

huffle I woke up was woken up this morning feeling exactly the same. I could deal with the crap sleep initially because he was new and so little. Then we had those amazing two weeks of sleeping through in jan. but ever since its been the worst ever sleep. 3 hours is the most he will go and that's just the first stretch when I'm eating supper and trying to spend quality time with dh. After that its every hour or two hours. And like you he is waking so upset. I'm not really fighting it. Ill try the dummy once but always end up listing him out and feeding. Thing is I can't really tell if he is really hungry as so many of his feeds these days are less than 5 minutes so that's all they are at night too although he stays latched on till properly asleep. Urgh I need caffeine today. Proper catch up later sorry.

huffle, smorgs, et al - Tbh it's the same here in terms of night wakings. DS slept 3h last night, then woke regularly to root for boob after that. This is our usual pattern and it's only bearable because I co-sleep and he and I drift off again while he's on the breast. I realise this isn't much comfort for people trying to manage a transition to ff, but with DD this phase lasted, with gradually diminishing wakings, until she slept through at 9mo. Since then, like smiley's DD1, she's been a great sleeper.

I know how hideous it is to get out of bed every hour or so. With DD, I'd go to bed with DH and then go up to her when she woke and cried. After that I took her into the spare bed we then had so she could feed when she wanted. Gradually the first stretch grew longer. I'm trying to do the same with DS by putting him into his cot at bedtime. I can't go downstairs to DH until he cries because we agreed he wouldn't be disturbed by a second baby. With his travel schedule, you can see why.

Still reeling from yesterday's bollocking from work, but I do have a couple of freelancing offers already. But after fourteen years, to write yourself out with two tweets conveying the loss of your job title to the people who needed to know... well, beware. I feel dangerously free, and aghast. Thank God DH has been so supportive from afar.

london yup, sounds like you have the thumb thing. The clicking out of place is a bastard, so painful when it clicks back. Apparently the definitive test is this: make a fist with your thumb on the inside (fingers on top of thumb), then try and bend hand away from yourself (so as to stretch thumb ligament). If you can't do it because it feels like lightening has struck,, you've got it.

Just catching up and quickly wanted to say london sorry you're feeling down after the move, it's always tough but especially so with your DH away. I live in Cambridge so if you want to meet up for a cuppa or come round for a change of environment then just pm me or send a message via facebook.

Hello everybody

Oh Huffle, feel free to moan! You're usually very supportive to everyone else, so don't worry.

And Smiley you are superhuman, leaving the house at 7am after any amount of so little sleep. Hope DD1 feels better soon.

Smorgs, like you say, it must feel so much worse now, after enjoying a period of great sleep. Please try not to let it get you down too much.
Did you get cake at your friend's the other day? I forced my self out and was rewarded with fantastic homemade quiche, which made a nice change from all the cake.

We've had 3 nights now of 2/3 hourly wakings and difficulty settling. It's such a sudden change, he'd been frequently sleeping 6-10 hour stretches since early January. Of course, I've been telling myself things will be back to normal soon, but from what Elpis is saying I'm starting to get worried!

I'm not surprised you're preoccupied with the job issue Elpis, you had every right to do what you did. They sound like right cold, hard bastards, but I suppose that's the nature of the beast. Hopefully your contacts will sort you out, and I'll look forward to hearing about you getting your revenge!

Don't give her back Bora, you won't get what you paid! Besides, she's far too cute.
Is the whingeing in the day time her finding her voice? DS's whingeing really stresses me out, but DH tells me to just ignore it. I feel like he's unhappy and will cry at any minute, but DH seems to think it's basically just "chat". Doesn't help much though, sorry.

Oren, I'm permanently tired. Even when DS was sleeping well I was tired - it's the continuous juggling, carrying a heavy weight, being on edge the whole time (how long will he sleep? Will the noise wake him? Did he eat enough? Etc.), the nonstop banter/stimulation/whittering, stop-starting. Bit like circuit training I think.
It's not just about lack of sleep, but throw in a bit of that and I'm on my knees (and probably a bit weepy) by Friday afternoon. And it's so hard to relax even when you get the chance.
Maybe your mum has just forgotten. Do you have a good relationship normally?

@ accidental arse tattoo London! Coming from anyone else I might have been surprised... Do tell us what it is. Or maybe we can all have a guess first?! I think..."Vive la révolution," in fancy script. Am I close?

Ugh. DH has come back from his course with manflu and is still in bed. He was snoring all night long and I've had 4 hours of broken sleep. Was going to start a diet today but fuck that.

cherry All babies are different - squid's has been sleeping through for ages, hasn't she? No one knows how long it will be before they do, but in the meantime I was explaining how I manage to stay halfway sane... Which, as I said, isn't very helpful for those moving to ff, but the evidence suggests ff babies wake less often but for longer.

Smiley, Smorgs and Elpis, thanks so much for reply. Glad to know you all in the same boat, but not in a good way! Empathetic sympathy for you all (can those two words be used together?!). Spoke to DH this morning before he left. We are going to try the midnight ish feed as formula. If he doesn't go over, give him some boob. May not work at all but I have to try something. I am tired, irrational and grumpy. (What's new?!) And I cannot go to work like this, I'll be dangerous. Smiley, I respect you big time!!

And as for doing it with an older one too. Hats off indeed.

Sorry no more time. Have to go to work. Is a glorious day- I will explain on FB later!!

Thank u do much

Xx

Well she's been much better today so I've decided to keep her. Annoyingly DH is working from home so in sure he thinks I've been exaggerating thus far!

She definitely does do whiny chatting oren's heard it, it's like little bleats; quite amusing. This was definite - my life is rubbish, I don't like you mummy, I didn't say put me down, did I?! - whinging.