November 2012 - the best post-natal quiche on MN

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1655656-November-2012-sleeping-through-yet

The answer to the sleeping though question was a chorus of "no"s but there were a few resounding yesses and a lot more keeping quiet because the rest of us would be well jel.

[MissMummy1]

Still no poo here kirrin. I am dreading it.

HV a total waste of time this morning. They said to be concerned if she hasnt gone for 14 DAYS?!?

Was going to go into the city today but I'm scared of a poo disaster

[MissMummy1]

Oh and welcome purple - we talk a lot

[MissMummy1]

Dicks Matilda and Bronwen seem to be syncing their good/bad nights

[MissMummy1]

Leaving her on our designer cream sofa is also filling me with dread

[Elizadoesdolittle]

Not had chance to read through tread yet. Just marking place. Poor E has caught my horrible cold. Was inevitable really but she's not long recovered from the last one.

[StuntNun]

Welcome Purple we're not usually quite so crazy, it must be the cumulative effect of sleep deprivation apart from PR of course but if anyone deserves a good night's sleep it's her. How is your DH now, is he recovering well?

J has had his injections after they kept us waiting for ages. He seemed pretty unsettled after so I gave him some Calpol which he managed to spit back out again. I'm hoping he'll go to sleep but he's currently wriggling about and smacking himself in the head with his iggle fists for some reason.

I bought the vitamin drops but I'm not sure he actually needs them. I took vitamin D through pregnancy so apparently he should have a good store of it in his body. I'm still taking Pregnacare so he'll be getting vitamin D in his milk as well so it doesn't sound like he needs supplementation.

[NotSoNervous]

Welcome purple how is your DP? Sounds like you've had a rough time

kirrin my DD didn't poo for 2 days she normally goes at least 6 times a day and she finally went yesterday, I think I'm still traumatised from how bad it was

I'm off to baby massage today but not looking forward to going out in this cold

[MadamGazelleIsMyMum]

Howdy all, nice thread title stunt.

When DS leaves it a bit long between poos, they are always immense and he has the most awesome look of deep satisfaction ever.

Cold here, was meant to be heading to the east midlands from the south west on friday for my grandpa's 90th birthday on Saturday, but thinking of heading up tonight as Friday's weather looks appalling. At least if I get stuck, will be chez mes parents, and their warm house, babysitters and entertainers of children on tap, plus far better food than I buy!

[NotSoNervous]

Glad you had a good sleep last night petite 10 hours! Bet you feel more human today

Started my not diet healthy eating Monday and dragged DP on board, not that he has much choice seems as I do the meal planning, shopping and cooking so he gets what's put in front of him did an online shop full of healthy stuff but I craving cake already and it's been 2 days right going over tithe diet thread

[PetiteRaleuse]

How are those with colic issues going? And reflux? If it's any reassurance LO has calmed down and spits up less than even a week ago except when I put the wrong teat on her bottle

I remember DD1 becoming suddenly a lot easier from about 3 to 6 months so hoping this one is following a similar pattern.

[PetiteRaleuse]

Oh God I sound like a right smug arse today don't I? It's only because LO is older than most of the babies on here that we're getting past some of the more frustrating aspects of newbornness. Am I digging myself a hole?

[BigPigLittlePig]

PR you're lucky I've just had 2 hours sleep otherwise I'd say yes, you have dug a rather immense hole. But, feel more human (ish) now, despite waking up with an enormous leaky boob (note singular, one boob - sporting a very lopsided look).

LOs reflux is on the whole better - I stopped the gaviscon due to constipation (good luck with impending poonami mm) and the chemist had to order ranitidine, which we're still waiting for...but not too much vom, and not too bad at lying down. Definitely an improvement until last night but that's a different story

Madam where in the south west are you lurking?

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

Have been spending the morning manically sorting newborn stuff out for ebaying. What a palaver. The lounge looks like a bomb has hit it.

Feel the urge to go and make a cake.

[Clarella]

no petite it's nice to see light at end of the tunnel!

our issue is relentless straining - which wakes him and upsets him. wondering about ramping up gripe water? I only give him a half dose every now and then. he's just over 5 weeks.

[KissysUnderTheMisteltoe]

Not at all petite like you say your LO is a bit older than most on here

My LO doesn't seem to be getting as much reflux at the moment. Think maybe she's growing out of it? She's still sick quite a bit but it doesn't seem to bother her. Will still go see the doctor about it next week for a 2nd opinion though. Not giving her gaviscon anymore as it was bunging her up too much

[PetiteRaleuse]

Clarella relentless straining is a sign of constipation. Not one of the more obvious signs, like lack of poo or hard poo, but a sign anyway. Could be worth bringing it up with your hv or gp next time you see someone.

[TooManyDicksOnTheDancefloor]

I've just been to booby cafe and asked about the vitamin d thing. I was told by the HV there that all BF mums should take a daily multi vit containing A, C and D (I think). You don't need to give your baby vit drops until you start to wean as they get the vitamins from you.

[Catbag]

That's what I thought. Was fairly sure the only supplement they needed to ingest themselves instead if through milk was vit. k.

[rowingdowntheriver]

Long post just vanished. Just as well as it was another moan about MIL. She's gone now thankfully.

Welcome pidj. How awful for you all that DH had a stroke. Is he recovering well?

DH is struggling to bond with Ds2 and he admitted yesterday though I had already guessed. He only really sees him when he does the dream feed at night when DS2 cries a lot, won't take the bottle and struggles to burp. I think DH is finding it very stressful that at is the only interaction he has with him.

I want to be as supportive to DH as possible about this as I think he was brave to admit it and I know he feels awful about it. I'm trying to persuade him to give up on the dream feed, I'll also try to get him to hold DS2 a bit more during the day on weekends (when he is not screaming), whilst I look after DS1. Does anyone else have any other ideas on what I / we can do?

[BigPigLittlePig]

Rowing my dh has the same problem, the only time he sees LO awake is when she's screaming for food. He says he feels as though she hates him, as there is nothing he can do to stop her crying. To help them bond, she sleeps on his chest in the evening rather than putting her in her crib/bouncer, and he has had baths with her at the weekend. It's really difficult for dhs/dps though - more so than I realised before LO was born. I hope he can start to enjoy you LO a bit more and bond with him

[rowingdowntheriver]

Thanks bplp and sorry to hear that your DP is feeling the same . I like your ideas so will suggest them to DH to see if they might help.

[PetiteRaleuse]

Rowing could your DH take over bath time, at least at weekends (unless your LO hates baths which would defeat the object). The smilier LO gets the easier it will be too. My LO starts smiling and chortling when DH gets back from work, and he loves that.

It was much easier for DH to bond with DD1 as I was really ill for the first 12 weeks of her life so as soon as he was home he dealt with her all the time. With DD2 there is the jealousy issue from DD1 so it's harder for him to get much one on one time with her.

I generally think it'll get easier the more interactive baby gets though. Let's face it. We spend a LOT of time staring at our LOs and notice every cute grunt they make. When you don't have the opportunity to do that it has to be harder to bond. And if there are older children who are more attention grabbing then it is even harder. I would guess a lot of our DP/Hs share the same problem. It's good he mentioned it so you can work on it.

[MadamGazelleIsMyMum]

BigPigLittlePig I am in Exeter.

PR mine would share the same problem - time with baby DS. DD is almost 2 and a complete Daddy's girl - she tantrums if he is with DS too much, and so its easier for DH to deal with DD while I deal with DS, but that only makes her even more attached to him and prevents him from spending much time with DS. He does do bathtime, and is good at soothing him in the evenings when DD is asleep, so I guess we just do more of the same.

[Elizadoesdolittle]

rowing we are the same. DH doesn't deal with DD2 much at all. The only evening he looked after she cried the while time pretty much. He deals with DD1 to free me up so I can deal with DD2. It's sounds awful when put bluntly like that but it works for us. I am bf, E refuses to take a bottle so apart from nappy changes and bath time he's pretty much redundant. He is, however fantastic with DD1 and I know he'll be the same with E once she's older. It's such a difficult time for the DH's as they are pretty redundant a lot with the babies in early stages. DH has no interest in babies whereas as soon as they interact he gets fully involved. I know some men who adore the early stage, mine isn't one of them.
It sounds like your DH is doing all he can. Sorry I don't have any advice but I'm sure your DH will get there.

[horseylady]

Madame where are you coming too?!

Just been swimming. Ds went under water.