November 2012 - the best post-natal quiche on MN

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Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1655656-November-2012-sleeping-through-yet

The answer to the sleeping though question was a chorus of "no"s but there were a few resounding yesses and a lot more keeping quiet because the rest of us would be well jel.

madame daddy's girl - yep - incredible isn't it how true that expression is. I was never close to my dad as he was a twat, and didn't really believe in the whole daddy's girl thing, but DD1 is inseperable from her dad from the minute he walks through the doir, and pretends I'm not there once he arrives

she's sweet and loving and well behaved when he's out, but turns into a real tantrum holding toddler when he is around if his attention is not directed fully at her. It's funny.

horsey we are off to Rutland.

PR sounds the same, DD cheerfully waves me off but the tears we have if Daddy leaves are something else. It is a lovely relationship they have though, and makes it easier for me to work FT while DH stays at home. However, am not sure DD will like it when her days at home with DH are shared with DS...

Thanks for the welcome it's been pretty hairy but i love having him around all the time, even though he's a bit limited on the practical side - he's pretty clumsy down the left side, and he gets tired really quickly; I'm hoping we can coordinate nap times eventually but at the moment ds only naps after a walk in the sling and dp isn't up to taking him far in it at the moment.

Nice to think there might soon be an end to the unrelentingness, we'll be 2 months on Sunday

Another daddy's girl in the kissy household. Although she always wants me when she's poorly or has hurt herself! DP looks after DD1 when he's here and I see to DD2, think he finds the early weeks hard too as he feels a bit redundant, but that will pass. Now DD2 is starting to smile and laugh at him a bit more he finds it easier

she's sweet and loving and well behaved when he's out, but turns into a real tantrum holding toddler when he is around if his attention is not directed fully at her - this sums up my dsd in a nutshell, although not sure I can call her a toddler anymore!

LO has only smiled at me and dsd so far (worryingly she smiled as dsd danced to gangnam style with her )

afternoon all. my DP felt the same with DS2 as I BF'd him and he spent a lot of time with DS1 but once DS2 got bigger and weaning started he bonded with him a lot more and he is another daddys boy now. It will pass and he is a lot more chilled about it with DS3 now.

mum is doing the school run whilst I sit by the fire

Thank you for missing me cat I have been out galavanting! Yes, I got dressed, yes I went further than the school and nursery, yes I fed in public! Clear progress made. Shame I cannot say the same about sleep.

Very annoyed with Debenhams having taken away all the lovely comfy bucket chairs in the restaurant. Not so easy feeding on a dining chair!

I bought lots of socks too. I swear my girls eat socks

Welcome PP

rowing every night my DP gets in the bath with LO and they have their time, and she loves it. We've started giving her a bottle of bm every night which sometimes works great because she'll take it well and cuddle right into him and he loves it but other times she'll be a bit more fussy and he greats stressed so easily thinking he can't look after her properly. Also because DP still isn't back at work he's here in the morning when she's in hear best mood so we get lots of smiles and things then

How was swimming horsey ? Did you go to a class or just by yourself?

Hi pp - scary time for you and your dh.

Rowing - another vote for your dh to maybe take over bath time, dads can be more silly and fun, not much washing gets done but who cares.

We go to a class. It's very expensive. I'm trying to decide if it's worth it for such a short period of time. It's only half an hour which is plenty long enough for him to be in the pool!! But it's a lot of money.

I'll perhaps switch to council run lessons when he's 5 months but I've already paid for this term!!

Thank you everyone for supportive words about DH and DS2. It is a relief to hear that other DP's feel the same and that it is perfectly normal and understandable that they feel that way.

I'll definitely suggest to DH that he does bath time with him when he is here and hopefully he will see the sunnier side of Louis!

rowing I was adamant that DH would bond with DD as I was bfing, so she had a later bed time than normally expected for LOs, so he could bath her on bath nights or just get her ready for bed, changing nappies & sleepsuit etc, so I literally just fed her before bed. She also slept on him for the first 3wks whilst I went to bed for a couple of hrs. Not sure whether he did it deliberately or just because he's #2, but he's distanced himself from DS a bit. DS is a bit less predictable than DD was and DH has had other distractions but it upsets me a bit, as I feel that lots of other things are more important to him. But I agree with the others that baths are a good idea.

pr my lo's reflux is managed with aptamil anti reflux milk and he's doing well on that though he gets tummy ache and wind sometimes the issues are nothing compared to before. Sometimes his poo is quite solid but nothing too awful, he goes once a day and it isnt Causing him pain when he does a poo. I've no idea though if I'm meant to try him again in the future on normal formula. On one hand I don't want to rock the boat and cause disruption to his system but on the other hand i don't want him having something he doesn't need. Another main problem is he drinks up to z8oz every four hours during the day, so between 35-40oz a day, and as I understand it the ar milk is thicker and more filing. I dread to think how much he would drink of bog standard milk :|

Welcome purple

I've brought lo to hull to visit my sister overnight. Have never taken him away before, have packed EVERYTHING! He seems ok so far, currently asleep in his travel cot. Would be a lot less hassle if he drank normal formula, cos this one is made a bit differently and gets lumpy if you're not careful. Plus he drinks from different bottles than the ones we warm up, it's all a massive faff. He drinks from mam teats and so has the mam bottles but they're so thick they don't heat well so a feed is taken from fridge and warmed in Avent bottle and then poured through a sterilised mini sieve into the mam bottle. Bottle warmer is turned on prior to this faff and is capable for keeping half warm when he's drank half and is winded. Obviously if he needs his special milk and bottles forever we'll keep doing it this way but yeah, we have enough stuff for 24 hours and maybe one day I'll manage longer/easier/less stressy type trips!

Hope everyone has good nights, am dreading mine, but if I'm up ill probably get chance to post on here and let you all know lol! I've never been here before, sister not long moved here so no idea of house layout and I'm likely to trip up over an oap dog too!

Sorry for the epic post!!!

Welcome to PP! Crikey, what a difficult start for you all. I hope you can get some routine and rest soon.

We had a nice day galavanting as well. How much coffee is really healthy on an emptyish stomach though?

Burgers for tea tonight . . . And I'm not kidding either. They are posho ones though so I am sure if there is any horse in them it will have been a fabulous stallion

Also re: dp's, mine is good and seems well bonded with lo but we've never spoken about it really, I know he feels he struggles with some aspects of his care and he wonders why he sometimes cannot get him to stop crying, but he's getting much better at going through the mental list of is he hungry/dirty/tired/bored/hot/cold/tummy ache etc. I think it's helped that he saved all holidays from work and has had 6 weeks off over Xmas with us. He goes back Monday and works nights, am dreading it!

Lane I went to a parent & baby screening of Les Mis today too. It was a bit long I thought, could do with an interval. Certainly the babies seemed to think so. Mine just slept through it apart from a quick feed & change.

I'm very of all you ladies who have cinemas that do baby showings, I really want to go see The Life of Pi

DH gives LO a bottle of ebm sometimes after initially freaking out about it being breast milk - that definitely helps them bond as LO gets so excited about being fed that her eyes go all shaky...strange but v cute!

welcome to the madness!

horsey What does your LO think of the water? We are taking DS swimming as soon as he has gotten over his cold. Neither of my parents swim and so they never took me when I was little. As a result I was a very nervous swimmer when I started having lessons at school. I used to cry every week before my swimming lesson and I want to avoid that with DS so will be getting him used to it asap.

Has everyone got the banner at the top of the page that says ?! Just wondered if it was a striking coincidence or a bit of targeted advertising

horsey we do swimming lessons with DD1 and I have to say I'm so pleased we did. I was very keen for her to like the water and swimming as I love it but DH can't swim. It is expensive but it's paid off for us as she is a great little swimmer and very water confident and safety aware. I know what you mean as its only half an hour and I started out with the intention of swapping to the council classes but kept with aquatots. I like the very small classes they have so can really give the babies their attention and help. I'm looking forward to starting with DD2. I do think though that some babies take to it better than others no matter what swimming lessons you do. Even just taking them swimming yourself is a great start.

I'm taking E to be weighed in the morning. Really not looking forward to it. Since she got this cold it's been so hard getting her to feed so I don't think she will have put much weight on. I'm not sure what else I can do to get her piling it on. I'm hoping the MW has some miracle cure but there really isn't one!

I'm going to see les mis tomorrow night. I love the stage show and I'm sure ill enjoy the film as much. Going to blub like a baby I know.

Hello all. I'm so behind on the thread. Still reading the last one. We are all well here. H got weighed on Monday and he is now double his birth weight and is now at double figures which was one of my personal milestones. I also got an email from my boss reminding me that I need to give 8 weeks notice if I want to come back before the year is out. I think I want to work one less day but I'm not sure we can afford it. I've put his name down for a nursery that ofsted have classed as outstanding and its £98 for 2 days. There's about 100 people on the waiting list so we need to keep looking.

Bigpig You mentioned about weaning and your prem LO, I spoke to my hv about this as I was wondering the same thing and she said to use actual age. I get confused as to what age to apply what to also. My LO came 6 wks early. How early was yours?

YokoUhOh thanks for the link to the isisonline it was very interesting and made me relax a bit about H's waking.

We have poo! Unfortunately poonami erupted while we were sharing a bath - could have been worse, the sofa is still lovely and cream at least!!

Oh purple I forgot to say, I love your little boy's name. It was going to be DS's middle name until DP decided he didn't need one. Prefer that spelling to the other way as well.