December 2012 - the sleep and poo thread (too much of one, not enough of the other)

[PurplePidjin]

oh no honey what a shame you won't see mil ;)

hi nutella!

a very sleepy boy today - had to wake for feeds. think we've both had a bug and looking back might explain armegeddon night on Monday. he's giving dp jip now though.... sometimes wonder if thus ebm malarky is worth the fuss... ?! but if we don't do it there's no sleep. speaking of I have 2 and half hrs till hand over time...

hi jojo too! :)

Jojo I had stitches, (which my midwife said had been very well done... Er.. thanks??) although I can't say I've noticed them much I still worry about pooing sorry, no one wanted to know that did they??

Spotty I've been too worn out to figure out expressing so its formula top ups and it makes such a difference. Although I will try expressing when it gets a little calmer.

We seem to have cluster feeding tonight... T is swapping from one boob to the other with an occasional 5-10 minute nap... Feels like he had been attached to my nipples all day! He has put on about 250g in a week though

mamapo I'll be watching your thread about long haul travel with interest as we are doing precisely that very journey when Z is 3 months old (although no business class for us!) but there will be both of us and Z isn't exclusively breast-fed.

Seconds, very few responses to my Q! The whole issue of this trip is so fraught - it's a gift from my inlaws who offered to fly me back to Aus or fly my mum out for a bit to give me some support. ( They're wealthy in a way my parents aren't.) I decided against going back but that I'd love to see my mum, at which point MIL essentially said no, we want to see our grandchild! Lots of to and fro but I think I have decided to go back for a bit. Would love my husband to come too, but it would use all his leave.

T.I.R.E.D. Roll on the weekend!

What with rocking and music playing/singing we managed to get O to sleep for a decent hour in his hammock. No sleep but glorious mummy and daddy snuggle time it makes such a difference to my mood.

Hoping this is a good sign of things to come and he gets better at it. In the meantime back on boob. Had a good first day of dh back at work, keeping busy, hoping to get some freelance stuff done, plus join some local groups for baby massage, buggy fit etc..

That's nice utopian, we haven't managed any snuggle time yet. Thought I'd managed to settle dd in her basket earlier but twas not so and she's been in with me since 11. Will have another try after this feed.

Hi all, been reading but too tired to post. Turns out 4 week olds are completely unwilling to do anything for themselves! Who knew?

I'm off out for a meal for mil's birthday tomorrow, bit have woken up ill. Hot, sore throat, banging head, nauseous and generally icky. Of I feel better tomorrow I will of course go but if not I don't want DS to go either. That's okay to say isn't it? He's only 4 weeks after all.

I know looking after him while ill will be shit and if DP took him i could probably sleep but i wouldn't want him away from me.

If it wasn't for the MiL/DiL troll yesterday I'd chance AiBU but noone will believe it's real!

Oh, missed the troll?

I don't think yabu though to say if you're ill enough not to go ds should stay with you. At 4 weeks being away from you for several hours means expressing enough for your dh to be 'you', feed wise, which could be a bit of a faff for all of you. Plus if you think it'll stress you more him being away from you than the benefit you'd get from the extra sleep, surely people will understand?

willyou I think it's entirely fair enough that you don't want to he separated from the baby while you're unwell. If you're breastfeeding there's all the extra expressing but if you're not breastfeeding that doesn't change at all the emotional aspects of wanting the baby near you. At this age it feels like a limb removed when you're away from them - it's one thing when you're away from the baby out doing something positive but another entirely when someone else has whisked him away.

WillYou definitely both stay home. Babies of this age still think they're attached to you so it wouldn't be fair on either of you

Willyou if you can't go, sell it as giving them a baby-free, uninterrupted, grownup meal, and then ask MIL to return the favour in 6 months!

We went to the hv clinic yesterday (waited an hour!!) A's tummy button hasn't healed yet, so we've got to use boiled water on it and they'll check it again next week. The stump fell off 4 weeks ago...

He was up to 9lb6. Which sounds ok (1lb2 up on last time) but looking in my red book (which I forgot to take) it looks as though he dropped from 50th to 25th
centile in 2 weeks.

I'll push it a bit more next week. I think he's got bad reflux- off to get dressed now after a projectile vomit this morning.

willyou I am very tentatively leaving F with my Pil's this evening whilst DH and I go for a meal. My pil's are very capable of taking care of him (better than me) and very strangely love his tantrums and colic scream, but it still makes me nervous being separated from him at 6wk. At 4wks there was absolutely no chance anyone would have him but me!

Willyou totally agree with everyone's comments.

Unfortunately we've got a funeral to go to today so my mum is having A for the day - already I'm sad to leave her but I know she's in safe hands. Just hope we don't get snowed in!!!

well done utopian - we regularly do the baby bob here! I've started to notice signs that he's over tired and grouchy and needs help to get him to sleep - a certain whinge, an eye rub and the way he blinks his eyes. I do the bob and but dhs method is to put the fan on in the kitchen which is v loud.

I think that's fine will you - don't forget baby might get whatyou've got too - g seems to have had the bug I've had this week. (hard to tell as like s cold but no snot or cough etc, just the crappy feeling) (have wondered if flu
jab been doing it's job?!)

more sleepy boy in night - started to push 5 hours since a feed - didn't know what to do as if poorlyness he needs a feed but if growing up a bit don't want to hold back!! not a bad thing I know but very different ti earlier in week! in the end I fed him but dunno if I should have or not. but, least I got 2+3+1.5 hours over the night which makes me feel more human!

F started to throw another wobbler in the evening, however somehow managed to nip it in the bud and he fell asleep at 10.45. Also implement his bed time routine, including bath and space for story time (this was when he was stropping) and a warm bottle. He naps everyday from 5-7 so going to try to wake him early from this and see if he goes to bed early instead.

Going to have a lazy start to the day, F has had a feed and gone back to sleep, I am still in bed catching up with the news and DH is reading his forums. Not done this in ages!

Thanks all. I know they'll make out I'm PFB but glad to hear everyone's as PFB as me! He is very snotty today. We're going to spend the day in bed. The decision may be out of my hands anyway. We've had a couple if inches of snow overnight and it's still coming down.

Sorry to hear that Bella.

Enjoy lazing around michelle and your night out.

That's exactly how I feel Clarella I had the flu jab too.

barbeasty DS has an umbilical granuloma, sounds like your DS might have one too? It's harmless, the GP wants to leave it a week or two then freeze it if it doesn't dry out.

We've had a dreadful day. DS has colic and I hope it's reached a peak. He's been awake from 7am until now (it's after 8pm) and is hysterical. My nipples are chewed to bits, all I can think to do is feed him. Thank god my mum's here to help with the DCs, not sure what I'll do when she leaves next week.

babycalm.wordpress.com/2012/07/06/the-fourth-trimester-aka-why-your-newborn-is-only-happy-in-your-arms-30/

Interesting reading :)

We had a much better night. We managed a 5 hour stretch last night and then he woke up at 6am and I fed him and put him back down and he is still asleep. I am hoping he isn't coming down with something and he is just sleepy today!

We have snow today which is very unusual for Guernsey.

I enjoyed that article, thanks Pidj, i think i will definately try more skin to skin and possibly having a bath with DD now. I've been scared to put her in my bath before now.

My hot, bubbly baths are the only time i have away from R so I'll be buggered if i let him share it! I found it useful to make me chill and just cuddle him - I'm a big advocate of "behaviour is communication" with children, if he's crying i want to figure out why so i can solve the problem.

I just bathed with DS (pic on Facebook) he loved it. And he also loves laying on your chest, naked or not

Glad to hear some better nights around. My nights have been OK, though sleep is always rare (especially with my husband's rotten cough which keeps the baby awake), but daytimes have been exhausting and frustrating - C has forgotten how to nap! She's so tired, and wants to be held constantly, then can't manage more than about 6 minutes in her cot before waking up again. A numbing, endless cycle.

Right now, she's been asleep in her cot for about 10 minutes and I can already hear her stirring. She needs a good 2 hour sleep now, and I don't know how to give it to her. I am so tired as well.

On top of this my husband has to be away overnight on a work do. I am disappointed and frustrated but there's nothing to be done. He feels guilty. Feeling a bit lonely and stuck to baby at the moment. At least the snow's pretty to watch...

Sorry for the wah wah me post, but today is not a Fun Day. What happened to 'it starts getting easier at 6weeks'? It started getting worse then!