October 2012 babies - over here nobbers!

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This really will be the thread where all our babies start sleeping through the night... right?!

Morning!
yomping I feel similarly confused regarding bed times/nap times/dream feeding etc. I reckon continue with it for another few nights to see how it goes. I heard someone say that a new thing takes 3 nights to establish.

We have had an even worse night of awake after only an hour of sleep or less. Awake at 11.30, 12, 1.30, 3, 4.15, 5.45 etc.... Have no idea the problem. She was keen to feed at every wake up so optimistically hoping this is a growth spurt. The only good thing is that she has been easy to settle back to sleep each time. So literally a quick feed then back in crib. DH stirred at 3 am and said 'is this the first time she's woken tonight?' NO THE FOURTH!!!! Idiot.

Olives definitely sounds like a growth spurt... fingers crossed
We have a baby with a cold here, she is actually sleeping fine, but christ her snores shake the entire building

Olives Londonmrss and others with nobber boys
I have recently started getting boyfriend to sleep on the baby's side of the bed, so if she stirs for anything other than feeding (she often wants her dummy back in, thrashing around wildly) he sorts her out because he's closest. And if he doesn't wake up I kick him. This seems fair to me...

Cross posted with a few others - maybe I'm not the best to give advice about sleep! Really don't know what I would do yomping. I know dream feeding worked very well for my niece and nephew.

Does anyone else get fed up of being given old-fashioned advice. My mum has been great but keeps on telling me to give baby olives some rusks before bed to help her sleep. She's only 12 weeks!

lol!
What the fuck are rusks anyway.... I always thought they were like werthers originals or something...

we tried a dream feed once. she refused. she didn't cry, she just stayed asleep no matter what I did.

I have the kind of baby who will be woken by nothing is she wants to sleep and settled by nothing if she wants to stay awake. bloody stubborn

just jumping on en route to airport! to say to fjord I hope I didn't come across all hardline with blw. we all make choices we hope are the best for our babies but annoyingly nobody has definitive answers - so when someone chooses to do something differently it makes you panic, question your own choices and feel insecure. totally daft. when you wrote about recommendations where you are I immediately worried that by weaning ds1 at 6m I'd caused his current fussiness. everything adds to the guilt innit!!!

will try to talk about weaning as non-emotively as possible!

right we're off on hols hurrah!!!

TBH... I'm too scared to drop the 9.30pm feed in case we end up waking again later. Have been thinking about trying it though one day when DH not working the next day. And I've just realised my 'bedtime' has been totally crap for the past week... managed to resettle her in cot once, other 5 days including tonight have either had to get her out and sleeping on DH, or back up for an hour. Hmmmmm serious action to betaken tomorrow ie me throwing a hissy then giving up after 45 mins

Mickey hope you're ok and your weekend gets better.
Our bedtime routine is basically bath snd story with big sister then feed till she goes to sleep somewhre between 8 and 9 then often sleep till 2ish then again till 5ish. Not worrying about settling herself for now, going with the theory that it will happen when it happens. More sleep would be a bonus but feel pretty lucky to have it as good as this at 14 weeks - we're getting some time alone together and enough sleep to function stumble around bleary eyed every morning.
Got friends who are expecting their first baby (18 weeks) coming to stay this weekend, really happy for them. Going to try very hard not to give too much unsolicited advice but is there anything you really wish people had said to you at this stage? Dh was thinking even really simple stuff like changing nappies (he has bad memories of scbu nurses laughing st him for not being confident changing dd1s nappy when he went to see her while I was still on itu - though hopefully thwt won't happen to them!).
Wishing everyone good weekends!

yomping we've been bringing bedtime forward gradually and though it has resulted in slightly earlier wakings they are not as early as you would expect and she seems to sleep longer overall and deeper/easier to settle. So I think not going to bed overtired helps. Last night asleep at 8.15, with wakings at 1.45, 5.30, 7.30 and finally awake for the day at 8.45. This is a good night for us! You always have the option of going to bed early with the baby if you've had a bad night the night before? Not tried dreamfeeds but I might when we've finished messing with bedtime.

Am a single parent from 3pm today for the week... slightly bricking it...

A terrible night here, awake 2-4.30 then DH took her out so I could sleep. When will this end?

Done my third comfortable 5K run this week... yay, this must mean I'm decently fit again, and can concentrate on something else for a bit... considering sewing! (not sarcasm! does anyone here sew?)

Incidentally pelvic floor felt absolutely fine today, so all the reminders must have helped... thankyou all

Bought another 0-3 month babygro yesterday - this one just loved the colours so sweet - was that wrong? She fits that size nicely at the moment, they are a little big if anything... I know she will outgrow them shortly but I hate buying things too big for her... my boyfriend's mum keeps buying me enormous things and insisting she wears them now to "get the use out of them" - I know it's more economical but am I the only person who thinks she'll only be a wee baby once and I'd like her to look adorable in clothes that actually fit? (Everyone told me not to buy newborn size stuff and she only grew out of it 2 weeks ago anyway!)

I get most of my baby clothes from ebay so it's not like they're expensive.

PELVIC FLOORS

Hey yomping I haven't tried dream feed, it just feels a bit wrong waking him as we battle to get him to sleep by furiously bouncing in Swiss ball for ages but I have friends who swear by it. I often find he sleeps better when he hasn't fed just before bed, maybe due to reflux when lying down? The only thing I've done differently recently is prop the MB up at the head end, and I did a few days drinking fenugreek tea and LOADS of water to up my supply, but that doesn't help you I know as you have oversupply.

We had another good night although I was up at 5 to express my Barbie Boobs. Fully prepared for this to be a fluke few days though. Hugs to everyone who had shit nights x

smiley I think if I was advising someone expecting their first, I would just tell them that they will feel like they've been hit by a truck for the first few weeks - but around 8 weeks it suddenly feels ok. still hard, but not 'burst into tears every 5 minutes' hard. more like one a day .

I would also say that under no circumstances should they allow themselves to be discharged until they've established breastfeeding if that's what they want to do. I was discharged after only 8 hirea with no latch... and then we didn't get a latch for 2 weeks. midwives just kept dating "you'll get it" and then I ended up with a poorly baby and terrible oversupply from pumping furiously from day 1.

squid I sew a bit, have made my own skirts and dresses before. I knit ans crochet more but all these things are difficult to do one handed! My sewing machine is still boxed up from when we moved last Feb

I did knit quite a few bits for baby wooly while pregnant and started a baby blanket for my friend, did half in about 2 weeks while pregnant then took me 2 months to do the other half once dd arrived.

Anyway it's easiest to learn if you have someone to show you but there are lots of good beginner books and YouTube vids so you can just teach yourself.

Things I would have liked to know are that they breathe really, really weirdly. I barely slept the first few days because I thought she was dying!

Oh, and wash in their arm pits and behind their ears, cos it gets proper manky otherwise.

MIL's latest clanger in response to SIL saying how cute DS is.......

"well I wouldn't say he's cute. He's too big to be cute. He's gorgeous yes but not cute. "

Stony silence from moi.

Well we are in way out for her to buy us his cot so I shall bite tongue!!

Catch up later!

I hate the iPhone app. Just been writing a post on & off since I got up. Hit 'post' & it disappears as, it seems, does every other one I post this way. Grrr. No time to try & re-type now. Velcro baby :-/. Back when I can.

woolybob good luck with the 'single parenting' this week, I am sure once you have coped with a few days it will all feel achievable and just imagine how pleased you will feel to have been able to manage a week! Although I seriously don't know how single parents 24-7 manage, massive respect to them.

Thanks to all who advised on double buggies. I think I need to go to a store a try a few out for weight etc. also to see if I can coax DS1 onto one as he isn't exactly keen on buggies.

We have been doing ff dreamfeed here and it works really well, DS has been sleeping through till 6am from 9 weeks. Not gloating, just wanted to say that we have found it works well although he doesn't always take that much and I was initially worried about waking a sleeping baby!

Oh Huffle, he is cute!
I often find myself biting my tongue in exchange for material things

Smiley, I think I would say how quickly it all goes. Everyone goes on about how awful it'll be, and sometimes it is but it changes so fast to another crap stage, it doesn't last forever.
And YY to how noisy they are! I was really worried that there was something wrong, but it's actually totally normal.

Yomping, I tried a dream feed for 3 nights. The first time it worked well in as much as he barely woke (inc. nappy change), the next 2 nights were crap - he cried loads when I woke him up and I felt like the meanest mummy in the world. Didn't notice much difference in length of sleep so decided it wasn't for me.
TBH I don't think babies are that logical (more food, longer sleep/earlier to bed, earlier to wake etc.) There are just too many unfathomable variables.
DS feeds so regularly in the evening that I just put him down after whichever feed is closer to his "bedtime" (any time between 7:30 and 9:30ish) or when the stars align whichever feed coincides with overtired behaviour at reasonable bedtime (not too early).

Totally not even thinking about self-settling here either, Smiley.

Why a shit day Mickey? Is today when DP goes to the exe's? why is he doing that? Nobber. Really hope it's better than expected. Have a , it's a perfectly acceptable time to drink in this time zone.

Did you give in Angelico?! Sometimes I have to sit on my hands and literally bite my tongue when DH is in charge. I'm such a control freak. Actually, he's better at getting him to sleep when he's overtired, just not very good at reading when that is
I feel bad for DH though, because at the moment DS is going through a stage of only looking at me and he smiles for me much more. I think it makes DH sad he can't be around more.
(Oh, and I'm now seeing you as a young Judy Blume. I loved Judy Blume!)

Soooo...speaking of sleep < whispers so the sleep deprived don't hear >...9 hours last night!!! A personal best! Boobs woke me way before he did. Hopefully I'll soon be so used to this state of affairs that I won't have to keep telling you all.

Pelvic floors

Have a great weekend everyone, 3-dayer here

Squid I love sewing! Especially childrens clothes. I say buy whatever you like for Jess and enjoy dressing her in what you like! You do all the hard work so you should indulge and enjoy her too. I have been to Sainsburys today and bought loads of vests and babygrows (in various sizes) as they were all half price and no pink!

I ordered a highchair yesturday. Not for her to eat in yet but she's so miserable at meal times, I havent eaten a dinner without BF since she was born so I thought she might be happier if she could sit up with us.

DH is driving me insane atm. He's just told DS off for playing with a toy in the play room because apparently its too loud. Its one toy and its the middle of the afternoon, does he expect a 6 year old to sit in silence all day? He makes no attempt to interact with DS or otherwise entertain him. Nobber.

sympathy wantan. my husband was being similarly nobberish yesterday. can you take to him about it, or is he having a one-off stressy day?

my baby is being a nobber today. she screams every time I try and feed her. she acts like I'm trying to torture her. she sometimes has these days where she's just not hungry and I always find it quite distressing. nobber baby.

Yuk, jeans shopping. I have been living in skirts so I forced myself to buy a pair. They are a size up from my pre-preg size and are baggy everywhere except the waist which is snug. I feel unbelievably unsexy and mum-ish in them. But at least they are comfortable. And I have been waiting to get back in my normal jeans for three bloody months now and it's not happened and probably never will. I was always an hourglass shape with big tits and hips and a nice waist, and now waist is gone and I am rocking a sort of potato shape. Jealous of anyone leggy or with another body part they can highlight right now.

I don't actually look THAT different in the mirror I swear so why does nothing bloody fit right. Who was it buying the thundercats trainers - you had the right idea.

Blah. First fucking world problems...