November 2012 - losing sleep and losing weight

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1640937-November-2012-sleepless-nights-aplenty

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DH I got mine when lo was about 3 weeks rhen 2 more letters in the post to remind me

We start baby massage class next week which I'm really looking forward too. I wish DP could go back to work now, I feel like it never in the house on my own, it's been 6 weeks and there still saying nit yet more Physio

I made appointment with dr for jabs. HV told me we would get letter for developmental checks only.

I asked the Receptionist to book his first jabs and they gave me the wrong date. Then at my 6 week check. They hadn't put him on the system even thou, I had filled in the form 3 weeks before hand.

I've used our temperature probe it says LO is fine but he feels very hot. Should I put the blanket on him? He seems more himself now, but I'm not sure.

Evil

Guess it depends on your area then, I've got the 6 week post natal check on mon so will ask then.

I start baby massage on tues, will be nice to have an hour just dd and I. I love ds dearly but god he's hard work atm. 2.6 is a great age for some things but behaviour takes a turn for the worse!

Grr doctors receptionists. Mine booked the 6 wk check & said to come in the day before to register him. Then when we needed to see a dr at 5 wks she refused as he wasn't registered. Really, you're going to refuse to let a poorly 5 wk old see a dr because we need to fill in a form? She spoke to someone and they obviously told her not to be ridiculous as we got the appt and when we went in later got an apology too.

Speaking of which did anyone see the thread by the woman whose DS had been asleep for 18 hrs? The receptionist had put her on a list for callback but obviously hadn't classed it as urgent - lots of MNers told her to call 999 and he's now recovering in hospital. V scary.

Hope the poorly LOs on this thread are doing well. My little post-jab boy is still very whimpery but no temp. May give him the Calpol anyway if he doesn't settle as he is clearly a bit uncomfortable & hopefully that will help him sleep it off.

H had his second set of jabs today. We didn't get a letter, just got told to book it with drs. He was completely fine earlier, but now won't leave my boob. Think I should just get comfortable.

So sorry about all the sick babies. Fc recovery is quick.

Oh I meant to say, I was prompted to book jabs by GP at 6 wk check but no letters or owt.

(Then was called back as receptionist had booked us for 7w5d and apparently this was too early so had to be rebooked for 9w6d (today). Apparently late doesn't matter but even 2 days early does?)

No one contacted me about the jabs either, I had to book it. I think they have got into a mix up about our addresses I can't be arsed to sort it out we will be in NI in 9 months. As long as I know what I am doing, which is often doubtful

Little O seems to have done ok after the jabs today though it took an hour of crying down for him to settle tonight. It could have been that or a touch of over stimulation at bedtime as it can be manic here between 5 and 7.

The girls are still up watching monsters vs aliens is this ok? My theory is they are chilled and not bouncing around, which has just reminded me detecive off to find my lavender rollerball.....

It's hardly surprising that your LO isn't gaining weight as quickly if he's not well Freddie. That's what happens with kids, they stop gaining while they're fighting off infection and then they catch up afterwards. What percentile was he on and what is he now? Usually they have to drop more than two percentiles or actually lose weight before there's real cause for concern. Expressing a feed may be to find out how much milk he is taking but that's not very accurate, personally I wouldn't bother if you find he is feeding a lot. If they start putting pressure on you and you would prefer to keep on feeding as you are currently then I would suggest playing for time, ask for him to be weighed in another ten days or fortnight before making any changes. There seems to be this (false) idea amongst health professionals that children should follow their percentile line exactly over time. They just don't understand that it is an average and that it's normal for children to fluctuate around their percentile line or move percentiles. My DS1 was born on the 50th but dropped over the first few months to the 2nd which he has pretty much followed ever since. He is very healthy, didn't have a day off school in the last two years and has met all his developmental milestones. But if the health visitor wanted him to be weighed weekly and have formula top ups. I never took him to be weighed again after that day. Interestingly I did need to start topping up with formula at four months because my milk supply was dropping due to having to use nipple shields and he wouldn't take solids.

A year ago if you asked me if I would love being a mum, I would have laughed in your face.
Now I think it's the best thing I've done. I love being a mum.

I saw a work college on my walk yesterday, and she is also pregant. I offered her some of the baby clothes, but afterward I really didn't know what to give her.
Does this mean I want more?? N is a handful, my heart says yes. My head says NO.
A girl. Maybe.

Evil

Thanks you Nervous, VQ, stunt and YW. I'll stick to my guns!

Stunt - he has gone from the 25th to the 9th. And looking at Ds1's chart, he did the exact same thing at this age, then ended up on the 98th at his last checkup. Pfft.

Sophia, where are you moving to in N.I? I'm in the Republic, although near enough to th border.

Time enough to think about it yet Evil! I always knew I wanted another after I had DS1, but give yourself time (and don't be giving away all your baby stuff yet!)

Ooo Freddie we will be moving End of August beginning of September to South Down ( about 40 mins from Newry along the Mourne Coast Road). Think everyone can tell you I am bursting with excitement!

How can I link something on FB that has been shared on my RL FB. It is a hilarious thing written by babies about not letting Mummies STTN ( sleep through the night) it sounds like us!

freddie my DD is on the 9th centile but tbh I don't bother or understand it, I know that she should follow the line and if it jumps to much in either direction then get it checked but when I was pregnant on here people were talking about don't get caught up on it so I listened and don't bother, I know my DD is doing well and that's what matters

I brought myself 2 dresses online in a size 10 and they've come tiny wondering if I should keep them for motivation to lose weight or just send them back

Nervous!!!! I tried on several dresses yesterday. Most were an 8 (I'm a 10 pretty much!!) but the one I bought was a 12. Now in the two hours I was trying on all these dresses I did not change shape!! Certainly not between an 8 and a 12!! The dress we got fitted like the 8s?! Go figure.

I didn't care. I liked the dress I bought (well ordered). The woman when she measured me laughed and showed me the size charts. Depending on the designer i was literally 8, 10 or 12!!

Oh sophia I am the other side, near enough to Enniskillen. That part of the country is lovely though, hope the move goes well for ye:)

Nervous - I know, I vowed not to let it get me down if it happened this time... Aggh, I will not, I'll just concentrate on DS gettng better. He is coughy and sounds a bit chesty but not in bad form at all, just sleeping a lot. Back to GPs tomorrow so will see then. Oh and I'd send the dresses back rather than let them taunt me from the wardrobe

Freddie if he's ill it's even more important to keep him BFing just for the antibodies if nowt else. Keep going my dear! HV annoy me some of their views are straight out of the 60s. My niece was 2lb when born and there is not a chance in hell my sister would have listened to calls to bottle feed her even if it would bulk her up quicker - she knew that such a fragile fraggle needed BFing as much if not more than a big term baby because of the additional health benefits that we simply haven't found a way to replicate artificially.

YW my lil one got a fraggle for Xmas :)

That's only one percentile line over Freddie so shouldn't really register at all apart from to keep an eye on it. Nervous the charts were generated usin baby weights from a number of countries worldwide. Basically your baby should be somewhere on the chart and ideally shouldn't move too far away from their percentile line. It's confused a bit because some babies are born on a different line from the one they end up on, e.g. if there were placental insufficiency problems or if the baby was very big due to gestational diabetes. My DS2 required attention because his weight went off the bottom of the chart but all they did was give him supplements for a few months until he caught up with his percentile line again. The problem is that people generally don't understand the chart and think their baby should be on the 50th line; also weight gain tends to go in growth spurts so if you measure just before a growth spurt it may look like baby isn't gaining fast enough whereas two weeks later they're back on track again. That's why the WHO recommend weighing no more than four times a year. My DSs are both under investigation because of medication or poor weight gain and they are only weighed every 3-6 months.

4 and 3/4 hours sleep, praise the Lord! Past few nights it has been 2.5 then awake for feed so v happy!

Fucking fucking arghhhhhh I'm going to stab my own eyeballs out.

Oscar - slept from 11pm. Still sleeping. Longest he has ever slept.

Me. Awake. I'd say wide awake. But I'm not. I'm tired, aching all over and yawning away. I'm beat. But I can't sleep. Just took Nytol again. Please let me sleep.

I've just eaten an entire tub of salsa and a few 8 ryvita thin things wondering if hunger was keeping me awake. It wasn't hunger.

:(

Are your sleep patterns too disrupted to let you sleep properly Detective? Maybe you could change introduce a bedtime routine of your own once Oscar is asleep, e.g. warm milk or hot chocolate, shower or bath, read for ten minutes then bed, with no TV/computer/phone screens in the last half hour before bed.

J is messing me about here. He slept from 10:30 to 2 but then had feeds at 2, 3:50 then woke at 5:30 but just messed about at the breast so he's going to want another feed in an hour. I tried to get him to take a lot at the 2 a.m. feed but he's woken twice since then. And this was after cluster feeding all evening. It's a right pain that he won't have a proper feed at night any more, just messes all night.

Det did u get to sleep?
Do u nap during day. If so cut them out, no matter how tiered u are! At least until night time sleep is bk on routine.
Agree with getting ur bed time routine set. Chill out time with baby no tv no phone warm drink etc. did u try lavender with ur DS1? Try it on urself!?

Try Ewan when u go to sleep! Lol although he is on now n I'm wide awake.