November 2012 - sleepless nights aplenty

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detective I've got a morrck wrap and I love it! At the moment it just stays in the car seat as I'm mostly using a sling or the P&T cocoon, but it will go in pram at some point. I bought mine in the smaller size and wish I hadn't as they are no good for DD1 now and I would still be using one for her if it wrapped round her - so maybe don't make that mistake if you decide to get one?!

I've got the morrck wrap too detective. Love it for the car seat, tried it in the early days in the pram & it failed - he kept slipping down inside it. However, now he's bigger, it might work? However, we have numerous blankets, so happy to use those in the pram. Have a cosy toes on the tandem so don't need it then either.

Have counted the 0-3mth size vests/short sleeve thingies that DS has. Somewhere in the region of 35-40!!! Not quite sure how that happened. If he grows out of them by 3mo, he may where them once each. Still, lots of good quality ones to boot fair. Since we'll have unisex, girl & boy sets, hoping it'll be easier to boot fair the lot rather than eBay....

PR hope you resolve the DD visiting issue. Either way, good that she's improving. Curious about what they do in physio. My Dad used to have to pound on my back, like is done for CF sufferers, to clear out my lungs etc and actually I used to quite enjoy it!! Used to make noises/hum so they vibrated with the 'pounding'!

Will have to defrost some of the ~40oz of milk in the freezer to see if DS will take a bottle soon. Not tonight though!!

Have been shopping today - online & in RL. Mostly bought stuff for the DC, feel a bit left out :(

Happy birthday jenbird :)

Any PGP suffers still out there. Been getting sharp pains in groin again today. Hurts.

Thankyou donna! I thought people would think it too old fashioned but everyone bar my sister loves it, or has at least not been negative about it! When I told her I liked the name Eric she screwed her face up and said 'how ancient! What about Layton?'

Ah well, can't please everyone!

Think he's gone sleep now, after some wriggling! First time in a grobag, seems he likes it :) and so he should, it's a hungry caterpillar one!

Sorry I havnt posted back.N didn't sleep. Fingers crossed now.
Evil

Evening ladies

PR the video message sounds like a fab idea - maybe read her favourite book or song?? Hope there's more improvement tomorrow x

jenbird happy birthday - glad your day improved

pixies totally jealous of you escaping this awful weather to sunnier shores - bring some sunshine back to us pls

nervous how do you find out about local sling libraries? I've got a Kari me but looking at getting one for DH that doesn't make him look like dr evil and mini me

After a rubbish night last night payback for the fab sleep the ought before Dottie got up at 8 am but we were so knackered we went back to bed at 10 and woke up at 12:45 oooops!!!!

Have bought 2 swaddle pods from eBay as dots was able to fight her way out of the swaddle me and then kept startling which then woke her up - these however make her look like a burrito but should keep her from escaping lol - I can't seem to find any in a bigger size than 7-12lbs - are we not supposed to swaddle from then on???

Right now I'm sure she's settled for the night I shall bid you a good night xx

Good evening ladies. My latest hair brain thoughts.
Started period today, so I should start my "pill" today aswel... So thought process goes like this, if I don't take pill we can avoid dtd at fertile times. Means I don't have to take pill, n want to try for nxt one in a year ish anyway. Means I can avoid issues of pill, get to know my cycle so when ttc it will b easier. AND if I get preg before, it's a happy accident.

N at the same time I have these thoughts in my brain running parallel. My MS was horrendous to point of taking nearly 5 weeks off work. how do I look after a child when I couldn't look after myself. With living with pil n stresses that brings is it a good idea to have another. But I can't put my life on hold because of them, one day they won't be here (sry I know that's blunt) n I may regret letting them postpone my choices.

I know I brought this up just a few days ago, but it's on my mind alot. Maybe this is what it feels like to hear biological clock ticking. GrumpyConfused emoticon

Ahhh 3 fail attempts to settle LO in cot however as soon as I pick her up and put her on my chest she is out!

To experience mums out there... Is this a really bad habit? (LO is 7 weeks). She can't seem to sleep on her own unless its during the day and we are out and she is rocked by the pram . Otherwise it's sleeping on us and then a stealth transfer . How do we get her to self settle? When does this become a bad habit?

Ah and now I'm hungry ....

Right attempt no. 4 .....

Have you tried the Ewan yet?! Once you try the transfer, put the harp music on! This usually works for us.

I have but only the womb music and the water one.... Keeps her quieter but doesn't send her off to sleep :( .... Right gonna do it right now and turn on harp music ! Watch this space ....

Oh my detective it might just be working !

Could try pick up put down method. Not tried it myself but heard it works.

How is LO when she is awake? Can u leave her alone n she is ok? I found that as soon as my lo woke someone would pick him up. N he was passed around until he fell asleep. So became more forceful with picking up rules. He now happily wakes n will kick about till hungry. I think this was first step for me.

In terms of night time... I found a tight swaddle helped. So when I held him to send him to sleep he would already be in the swoddle. Easier to put down n (I think) he still kinda felt held n secure.

Also I started putting him down when drowsy rather then sleeping. Took a while but getting better. Now Can put him down when I spot he is getting tiered. If in quiet dark room he can settle himself. If overly tiered I hold him till he is almost asleep.

I don't think there is one thing about teaching a baby to self sooth n to settle themselves to sleep but hope my experience helps in some way.

Yippeeeee!! Let us know the result when you have had some sleep!

I have fucked up by staying in bed! Lesson learned. Oscar thinks it is day time still. . Will fix it tomorrow! No naps for us tomorrow!!!!

Am going to post a picture on FB of me at my slimmest after DS1, which was 2.5 years ago. When he was 8. LMAO!

This is what I want to get back down to!

Gonna stick said pic on fridge. And in fridge. And on all food.

Chunky yes it's the same physio that you had. Lots of chest and back pounding.

Just been woken up by LO coughing :(

I'm a little paranoid about her coughing now. It was really phlegmy too. She's feedding now and not having any trouble doing so.

PR bless her then, its only fun once you realise what's happening..

How do you wind laying down? I fed A laying in our bed, an hr after the start of the feed, he gets transferred & all I get is windy groans & writhing around. So neither of us is asleep... I think its partly to do with a fast flow/possible over supply issue, particularly in my right boob. So now he's had back rubbing & a top-up feed when I'm sat up. Fingers crossed 20mins upright helps...

blonder my Lo has a weird bald/mullet look going on too!

candypop I don't think you have to worry too much about 'bad habits' at this stage. You can start signalling day & night to them (low lights, quiet voices etc etc) so you can get some sleep but sleep training can begin later. If baby has a secure attachment to you, then they are more likely to sleep well alone, & cuddling them & reassuring them that you're there builds a secure attachment. But then, I'm not one for strict routines, was always baby-led with my DD. So it might be different if you want to follow s specific routine etc if that suits you.

Just had a go at DH. DS has properly vomited ALL over me twice in 12hrs. Full on flow of vom, covering everything and it feels like the final straw. DH keeps making plans & not telling me/consulting with me. I feel tired because I can barely sleep with both dc needing me. Add the fact that he's ill too & I'm feeling like I'm the only 1 having to be a parent 24/7. I feel completely overwhelmed. And yet, its nothing compared to the serious illnesses or broken bones or problematic births etc that some of you have faced.

I think the problem isn't how much I'm dealing with, its more the feeling that I'm dealing with it alone. I feel like DH doesn't have either the physical issues of parenting or the emotional ones. He doesn't feel guilty about not being a good parent/not spending time with DD/not being able to be in 4 places at once.

My mum described DH as a bit like a puppy. Full of enthusiasm & excitement about certain things and gets carried away in the moment, without thinking things through.

For example, he has invited 10 people to dinner on new years day because we do it every year". Well yes we do BUT we don't have a fucking newborn every fucking year!!!! He didn't even check it was ok with me before inviting people, so now we have to do it!!!!

Fed up of feeling like I'm the only one that has had a baby. We're BOTH patents ffs. I'm sure I'd feel better if I got some sleep....

Sorry about super long posts...

Oh chunky that's pants. Are they close friends? Can you get them to help an maybe bring food with them so you don't have to do anything?! Maybe get a couple to come earlier to help set up ?
If all fails then tell dh that he will have to do all the preparation seeing he has invited them.
Or is it too late to cancel?! Just say your really sorry and had a nightmare few days and don't think you will be able to host?! This could lead to compromise and hint for them to at least help?

detective my last post saying it worked ... Well it didnt! BUT worked on attempt 6 ! So sleep from 2-5am ..... She settled straight away after 5M feed but then we heard her to a massive poo and now she is awake after the change

Had an email in the middle of the night saying I'd won some money in my national lottery online account (I buy one ticket a week). Waited until now to login and check my winnings........£10!! Arses.Thought I might be a millionaire!

10-5 last night! Amaaaazing baby!

The French lottery do that too Dixie . Why can't they put how much you win in the subject? Lke that you don't get all the build up to opening the email and learning you won 2? sodding 40 (like I did a couple of weeks ago)

Are we mad? We've decided to start potty training ds1 today. Wish me luck!

Good luck. I was going to start potty training DD1 this weekend as I wanted a clear 10 days before she went back to creche. I'm going to leave it until April now when she will come out of creche completely. It will be easier with her being a little older too.

detective ill let you know how we get on, going to go for a walk with lo in it today

Thanks eliza'i have one ordered

chunky I would make sure your DH does majority of the work and ak people to bring things alongbwithbthem I'm sure they won't mind