November 2012 - sleepless nights aplenty

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I hope you have a better day today PR. Maybe getting your shopping done will reduce the stress a bit. Can you buy a few treats for yourself and your DH?

Glenda I started taking Pregnacare Breastfeeding because my nails were breaking. They're expensive but you can get 3 for 2 offers at Boots and Tesco. You need to be getting lots of calcium which you can get through supplements or in your diet. You also need vitamin D, in fact everyone needs vitamin D, as a nation we are chronically deficient. My mum is a HV in Manchester and she sees cases of rickets in the Asian population. It's such a shame when children's vitamin drops are so cheap and it could be prevented.

My oldest two have weight issues Pass and I couldn't tell you the number of times I've been near tears because someone has said, "Isn't he getting big" or something similar. People just can't judge. I'm sure your MIL sees changes over time so she can see improvement but can't tell that it's a slow gain. On the positive side Lane I've never had that problem where they grow out of their new clothes/shoes in a month! DS1 had the same pair of shoes for a year once, I had to buy him new ones in the same size because they were worn out!

My mum calls James 'The Baby' as well. She really hates his name this is the same woman that thought Aurora was a good name.

Blonder when I change nappies I put the new one under him before undoing the old one. Then open the old nappy, lift it a bit then put it back down. The waft of cold air makes him wee into the old nappy. Then I whisk the old nappy away, clean him quickly and put the top of the new nappy over him. It seems to be pretty foolproof and having the new nappy in place is handy in case of number 2s mid-change as well.

It's normal to feel like that when you're so sleep-deprived Tits. I've been beside myself with tiredness, crying because I feel too tired to change a nappy at night. Could you express a bottle for DP to take one of the night feeds? Even one better night's sleep would help you, it doesn't have to be every night. Does co-sleeping help at all? Could you get a nap during the day at all?

So DD has a chest infection and now DH has gone down with flu or something. So instead of being awake for a super quick feed at half 3, DD had me up then DS, who fed quickly, needed a nappy change (if he's not getting poo leaks, his nappies look fit to burst with wee!!!) and half hr upright/winding, then more DD, as her temp was back up to 40. DH thankfully got up with her but after a couple of hrs sleep, at 7am decided to call for my help, laying on the bathroom floor, saying he's too hot & needs an ice pack. So I'm literally feeding DS, whilst getting Paracetomol & an ice pack half naked, for DH. How does he think I'd manage if poorly??!!! It's obviously not nice he's ill, but it came on so suddenly yesterday & now I'm playing nurse to 2 & nursing 1. When do I get a break??!!!

Glenda I'm still taking my pg vits when I remember, despite the reminder on my phone as I figure they can't be that much different to breastfeeding ones. When they run out ha! If they run out I'll prob just get Asda's own or the sanatogen ones that are reasonably priced in Asda.

Thanks chunky & stunt will have a look at offers in boots!!!

tits have you tried swaddling?? Or wearing a muslin tucked in your bra for a few hours then tucked around the mattress where LO lays head?? If you have a smart phone with apps download sleep pillow or sound sleeper free and experiment with the white noise sounds - Dottie likes the rain and womb sounds. Does LO prefer being slightly on their side?? Or elevated a little?? Hope he sleeps in cot soon xx

Dottie didn't go down until 2 she wasn't hungry but was very sucky but wouldn't have the dummy!!! When I finally got to sleep I woke choking on a mouthful of acid Ick!!! Couldn't get rid of it from back of throat :(

Wind is very noisy here in Essex so not a good sleep :( gonna try for a couple more hours

I'm still taking my pregnancy vits too. I reckon it can't hurt.
chunky sounds like you had a horrible night, hopefully that will be the worst and it will get better.
kissy my LO is really congested too. Took him to the doctors and they said that its normal and could last until they are about 8 weeks due to the size of their noses. I've found that saline works okay for a little while and going into a steamy bathroom works well. I'm going to get a humidifier as the house is quite dry. The congestion is so bad that he sometimes can't breathe and it wakes him up.

Another miserable one here...
It's my birthday but I don't feel like celebrating so haven't bothered with any presents as doesn't seem any point. My two eldest dc's woken with raging temps and the start of flu bug that seems to be going around. I have the most miserable baby around. She will not settle AT ALL. I literally can't put her down. I feel like I am neglecting my other children and my house is an absolute tip and I am powerless to do anything about it.

Sorry to hear lots of others are having similar and worse issues. Here's hoping for a brighter new year!

Aw happy birthday jenbird try and find an hour to eat some chocolate while watching something you like on tv at least today

Good morning. DD1 still needs a huge dose pf oxygen and is tired and no appaetite this morning after her physio. No temperature though which is good.

LO has the cold. Am sure of that now and am going at her with the saline drops like a mad woman. She screamed til one then slept til half six but I was woken up by the dog.

My dog is a lovely, fluffy, wussy golden retriever. As unlike a guard dog as culd exist. When I open the door to callers I have to hold him back by his collar so he doesn't lick them to death but as he is big srtangers are wary. So when he started barking and growling during the night I was a little worried. Anyway no sign of anyone trying to get in but the thought of him actually scaring anyone off is funny.

Happy birthday jenbird

tits sounds like your mil is on your side; that must be nice

Petite - I always answer the door with one (or both!!) of my curlies. big curly will do nothing other than kill with kindness. The pup has launched herself at several people!!!! Again shell do nothing.

Sorry to those of you with partner issues. Mine does nothing overnight. I think he would but now he seems to be sleeping through it's not too bad. He'll look after him when I go out. He's very good actually!!

Off to a wedding today. Bought a very pretty dress yesterday from phase 8!!!! Shame it's raining.....

Happy birthday jenbird, hope things pick up a bit for you today

Same here thechick, it was very frightening at 5 this morning

Same here with scary wind. It was a south easterly last night so blew right up the river before hitting us. We seem to have acquired another few yards of shoreline thanks to the storm

Feeling about 50% better today. Going to venture out to tescos later I think. I'm going to go mad if I stay indoors any longer!

DP has become a bit crap overnight. He'll occasionally get up and do a nappy change but his usual excuse is "you need to be able to do this when I'm not here" - fair enough, but when he is here a little help wouldn't go amiss! That said he is fab with her during the day and has just given me an hour to soak in the bath and make myself feel a bit more human again!

Box of 9 Huggies wipes packets at £6 at tesco
No time to catch up on thread ATM as am doing tesco shop

Happy birthday jenbird

Sorry to all those with the lurgy - seems there's a lot of it about :(

MM1 my DP uses that one as well! "what would you do if I wasn't here?" But you are here, so help me! Grrrr

Lousy night last night. n is sleeping 12-3ish and then going down for 30-40 minutes at a time until 7, when DD1 gets up. Then she'll sleep for 3 hours....

Had a snooze with dd on the sofa earlier. Now feel more tired

Ds is testing our patience more and more every day, he's nearly 2.6. When does it eeeeennnddddd??!

Happy birthday jenbird. Sorry that your DC's are poorly for it. I hope they don't come down with it too bad.

Well my Nuk bottle arrived today. Am so hoping DD takes it. I'm almost too scared to try incase she doesn't as I don't have many other options, apart from perseverance! DH is out tonight so am going to snuggle on the sofa once DD1 is in bed, watch some stuff on the planner that I recorded from Christmas and give it a try then. Fingers crossed E likes it.

Reason #593 why I can't wait for dh to go back to work. The muppet has managed to put a nappy through the washing machine. First his ipod, then my lipstick and now this. Fucking idiot. Doesn't matter how many times I tell him to check through the washing first or better still just leave it the fuck alone he never does. Bloody furious. Any ideas how to get the crystals out of my clothes? I have very few that fit now anyway

He's royally pissing me off today. Yes he's ill too, but there is no need to take it out on me. (also funny that he has enough strength to play about with his dive compressor but not to take the bins out?) Twat.

Sorry very self indulgent post.

Happy birthday jenbird.

candy thank you x

chunky sorry to hear about DD1. Hope she is soon well, and does not keep you up too much.

jenbird happy birthday. Hope your day is improving. I too feel I am neglecting my older children. All we can do is our best, and it teaches them resourcefulness. They are relatively clean, well fed, loved but at a distance mostly. This too will pass. Not long and the youngest will be less dependent and more able to cope with the chaos of the larger family.

Have forgotten everything else, so apologies if I have missed anything vital.

DS seems to have turned a bit of a corner. He was less frantic last night with his feeding, and is actually asleep now which is unheard of. He slept from 10 to 3 last night, then 4.30 to 6, then snacked on and off until 10. We stayed in bed until 10am as daddy got the girls up. It was divine, and I had a very interesting dream about Louis Theroux of all people. DH has been much more helpful in recent days, but he lacks patience with the girls.

MM how do you wash a disposable by mistake?? Plonker!

chunky I have less leaks with washables, but they do take time. I used disposables over Christmas, but am back with washables due to leaks.

Happy birthday jenbird

We braved bluewater today. We bought Ewan the sheep due to all the rave about it here ! Hoping it will be our nighttime miracle cure. Our hopes are now pinned on a fluffy stuffed toy 😊

Hello all - a quick question for pass and other reflux Mummas - what meds is your wee one on? Think ranitadine (1ml 3x daily) and domperidone (same dose) just isn't cutting the mustard as after about a week symptoms are returning and I'm a heartbeat away from just taking him to A&E - the docs here don't open again until Monday. I'm sick of him screaming for hours on end and grabbing his throat and then choking and going hoarse as the acid hurts him. Because he is comfort sucking off me (breast milk is an antacid) he is gaining weight well - indeed is quite chubby, but the docs then seem to think that this means his reflux isn't a problem so don't really take it seriously but it's the pain I want help with.

The reflux is not helped by the fecktard waitress in restaurant today assuring me that my meal didn't have dairy in and then serving me a bowl full of pasta dressed in butter and mentioning this half way through the meal when I queried the fact that the olive oil dressing tasted suspiciously like butter. Cheers love - my screaming 10 week old baby really deserved to be served by a muppet like you. Here's a clue dairy = butter. So not only can I not eat my favourite foods it appears that going out is off the cards too

Happy Birthday Jenbird- hope you have managed to have a nice day, despite the shaky start x

MM As far as getting the crystals out goes, I would shake out as much as you possibly can (pref away from your lawn or the near vicinity of your house) and then leave the clothes on a radiator or hotplace to try and dry the crystals out. I'd then shake again periodically. I don't know how successful you will be cos those crystals are sticky as. Good luck!

MM where do you dive? i dive too, or did until I left Paris. I mean to take it up again at my local pool next September. The local clubs do trips to the Nemo thing in Belgium. My ex was an instructor so that's how I got into it. DH is asthmatic so can't join in but I miss it.

Right, DD1 is slightly better. They've reduced her oxygen from 5.5 l to 4l this afternoon to 2.5l this evening. Se's lost her appetite again though and is very weak. She's been on antiobiotics for 48 hours now so tonight should be the start of real improvement. She had another two sessions of physio today the poor love.

I'm hoping to go in overnight tomorrow but I am still coughing a LOT. Was able to sleep for a couple of hours this afternnoon though which was great. LO a little snuffly but I'm not worried yet.

Quick reply YW

P is 8Ib 9oz and is on:

4 x 1ml domperidone
3 x 0.5ml rinitidine
6 x sachet gaviscon

We had this upped on Friday - doc decided to despite P having lost a bit of weight.

I would take J to A&E. P started losing weight after diagnosis because eating was so painful. I know you know this with your family history but almost two weeks later and we re only just getting her back to being happy to eat. I reckon the smartest thing the girl did was to refuse food - meant they had no choice but to take it seriously.

Let me know how you get on.

Jen happy birthday... Sorry it's a bit of a rubbish one :( we should have an online party here tonight! everyone can eat all their shite up before the new year diets!!

I am ashamed. Very ashamed. Me and Oscar... Well, we stayed in bed. All day. Til 5.30pm . I don't mean we stayed asleep the whole time, but um, quite a bit was spent sleeping! I figured if he wouldn't be put down in the day, meaning nothing got done, I may as well catch up on all the missed sleep from over Xmas! Worked a treat! Daddy is off work tomorrow for a few days so stuff can be done then so I'm trying not to feel guilty. I hope Oscar sleeps tonight! Think he might as he sleeps most of the time we are out and it doesn't affect his night time sleeping. Fingers definitely crossed!!

Detective you have nothing to feel guilty about, sounds like bliss :)