October babies. Don't get lost

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Oh poor yomping! I cried when LO had her first jabs. They'd have to call the crisis team if she had a tongue tie cut!

Oh Yomping how traumatic! Poor mummy and poor little pet.

Hope everyone recovering.

Will be interesting to see how quickly makes a difference. Good for you.

Off to sleep. New sleeping experiment night 3. So far, not so bad.

Yomping - Thinking of you. It's so painful to hear them suffer like that. Your description made me think of a (male) circumcision, and while I don't think children enjoy those, they do heal. So will your DD's tongue. She may be upset for a time, just as they are after jabs, but she'll soon rally. I do hope it helps with her latch and your breasts calm down too.

I'm still tearful at jab time, even second time round. Yesterday the nurse patted DS' tummy and said: 'You like your food, don't you?' and he grinned and chuckled. Then she stuck big needles in both thighs and he was outraged.

Yomping don't suppose that was Ann Dobson was it?

oh yomping, poor you. I find the hardest part of being a mum is when they're in pain- like with hands. I just wish I can explain to her why it hurts as that it will be ok and its because I'm protecting her. at least at this age, these things are soon forgotten. my baby rejects feeds too- usually if I try to shove a boob in her mouth when she's not hungry. I can see how that would be annoying I guess. just don't take it personally- it's not a rejection of you. hugs for you.

fuck's sake. jabs not hands

sorry pressed "post" too soon.

Yomping we had DS1's tt cut, debating whether to do DS2's. Going to try cranial osteopathy first in desperate hope....the doctor is pushing for us to cut as his weight is dropping down the centiles.

For a few days after the cut with DS1, the only way he would feed was for me to express and him to gingerly suck a little finger while we syringed milk into his mouth slowly. It was a tough few days. It might be worth a try? Did the LC leave you any syringes for this?

Hope she heals soon. It's horrible Her poor little tongue.

I've just joined Twitter for the first time! Don't really understand it. I'm following all kinda of cool famous people, but why would anyone follow me? I'm not saying anything. And yet I have 4 followers. they all have the works 'cock' or 'fucking' in their names. I thought twittering was all about teenagers following Justin Bieber and One Dimension.

Christ I feel old.

bora that's great that you've decided to just do it re sex! Feel the fear and do it anyway, I say.

LOL I'm way more morbid (and mean). I told DH he damn well was going to look downstairs as I gave birth, whether he liked it or not! He saw blood, the epidural catheter, poos, tearing, baby coming out - everything. And I told him if he even thought of complaining it would put him off sex he should zip it, get the fuck over it, man up and respect and be grateful to the womb and fanny that gave him his son. My view is that it was his fault for putting me in that state, and he could bloody well watch what the end result was! But I am a bit of a bitch....

Ds had 2month jabs yesterday. Fussy evening. Let him sleep in bed with us. This morning was ok but then all of a sudden got a.feever. Cue the tylenol and strip down. Much better now but cant get him for a.long nap. Hope he feels better now.

Yomping that sounds horrid. Master midge refused to settle on the breast one night and it broke my heart. Think cup or syringe feeding for one night sounds a good idea. I am sure breastfeeding will be fine once the cut is less sore.

well, she has been very emotional all evening, and very floppy, not at all her usual jerky, never-still little self. she seems a bit lost. Calpol helps with the pain (is tylenol same thing?). feeding is a bit traumatic, she stops to cry sometimes, but she is feeding and by the sound of it that's not always the case so I'm grateful for that. She is also smiling a bit. Bless her. I hope it helps to sort the latching issues. crazy, no, lady from Portsmouth called Lynn Timms. very nice, calming and professional.

Hope others have had a more peaceful day !

Oh Yomping, that sounds very traumatic for you all. We haven't had jabs or anything yet, but I get upset when he cries because he's over tired! Well done for going through with it, I really hope it makes a difference for you both very soon. And good job miniYomping for smiling through!

Well done for talking about it Bora. Our first time was definitely a just- get-it-over-with type affair (for me anyway ), but it was fine and things are all back to normal now except DH can't feel a thing when I, errr, squeeze.
I didn't know if it would be a great idea for DH to look during delivery, but he found it all fascinating so he did, and doesn't seem too traumatised. I think he's keeping it all separate in his head!

Like your style Zara!
I ordered the octopus and an inch worm. Getting from the UK, because even though delivery is expensive, it's still cheaper than getting them in Japan.

London, I joined Twitter once and have a load of randoms following me too. Have never posted anything, can't think what to say. And when following others, all the abbreviations and @s and #s etc. fry my brain

Did you have a good Christmas October? Can't believe you went sale shopping, it looked mad on the news. I spent a fortune online yesterday mostly on baby clothes
The time alone sounds like heaven though

He's a bit better during the day now Smile, thanks. Nights still a bit crap, but at least he went down without any fuss last night. Maybe a growth spurt? He's been feeding even more frequently, and for longer. I was worried he wasn't getting enough at each feed. He's 9 weeks.

Hope the fever's come down Beeble.

What's everyone doing for New Year?
We're having DH's family here (NY is a big thing in Japan, and usually spent with family) because I didn't want to sleep over at someone else's.
His mum and aunt are doing all the food and stuff, but I've just realised it's going to be really boring - conversation and TV I can't really understand, in a small apartment, with people I don't know very well and no alcohol. Awesome

Londonmrss we too don't vaguely get twitter. DH joined and has all these random followers but no idea how to even use it. I not even joined. Don't understand it at all. Our poor son, we will be old stupid techno phobe parents!!!!!!

Some reassurance for those not 'sleeping through'. We were getting good sleeps from 11 or. 12 until about 6. But bubs was tired after our dinner and we struggled to keep him awake. Past few nights we moved bath time from 9.30 to 7.30 and now he sleeps from about 8.30. Had done 5.5 hr stretch on average but this brings us to about 2am. Sometimes wakes at midnight then 3 am. Fed and back within 40 mins. Then up properly about 6.

Now we did feel better and cope better pitting him down much later but think this is more realistic. And we will likely be up during night for foreseeable future.

Think me going to sleep at 8.30 is making me over tired!

Hope we are doing the right thing............ Hope he will sleep longer eventually!

And only one major nap happening in day now. From about 12.30, 2-3 hrs whereas before he had 2 x 2 hrs. He has that plus 2 half hour ones. Seems to make sense. Before he was tired all evening and all morning.

I am doing DHs head in, the analysing is endless..........!!!

a better night here. slept from 7-1030, when DF provided a bottle, then til 310, when I fed for 20 mins then up at 7. for comparison puposes, huffle she has a 2 hour nap at lunchtime, 45 mins in the morning and a short catnap of 15 mins in the afternoon. I find that amount of sleep reasonably manageable, though I end up going to bed at 9pm which makes me feel like a loser. hopefully tis only temporary.

yomping poor you and poor mini yomping re the tongue tie. sounds tough. I hope feeding is going better today. If you need a syringe then try your local chemist. They gave us one for DD's reflux drugs.

cherry I hope your new year turns out better than you fear.

in other news, MIL did bedtime yesterday and I had a bath. a hot one. I read a book. it was ace. first bath alone since DD got here and first time in about six months that I was entirely submerged. not overjoyed by sight of wobbly thighs and stomach but hey. I'll get there.

sorry to thoae have missed. am on phone (new Xmas pressie that am too stoopid to use).

yomping hope the tt cut helps, sure it will heal in no time and she will be feeding well soon

Good Xmas here thanks cherry, deliberately tried not to make it too difficult for ourselves. Ds1 had great time, he is starting to 'get' it age 2. Think next year he will be fully into it but nice thus time not to have it too manic.

Ds2's gift to us has been sleeping through! Not every night, but more often than not this last week, I now really struggle getting up in night despite not finding so bad before. Hats off to those of you up several times, it is exhausting. I think the catalyst has been moving him to own room, particularly being in cot rather than Moses basket where he has more room to thrash about.

Does anyone else's bean still hate bath time? Still a screaming match here when I put him in every time, only doing about 2-3 times a week as so unpleasant for all. Tried warming up room etc but he hates it still. Haven't tried having bath with him as can't imagine that being any better but might give it a go. Ds1 loved baths and they were relaxing, not this time round!

Yep Livvy that sounds similar pattern doesn't it? Hopefully means we are doing something right!! Well if you are loser at 9pm god knows what I was last night shortly after 8! We will get a life eventually!!

So jealous of your bath. Been trying to get a bath forever to massage this lump. Shower not quite the same. But the day, tho so often monotonous, just disappears. Always working towards next feed.

Right. As we on nap number 1, time to wash, eat, dress and tidy!

Oh wow baths and 2 hour naps sound great! I had a look at the baby whisperer again last night - haven't picked it up since first few days... And got myself completely paranoid that we NO routine whatsoever the only semblance of one is bedtime, I take her up around 9ish, change nappy, clothes, feed in low light then sleep. But she won't go down for a nap during day, so sleeps on me or in pram or carseat if we go out. I try to put her down in the day when she's fallen asleep feeding and it will last 10 mins max then she's awake and crying. All wrong seemingly.
Cue a horrible episode of trying to get mini to self settle when she was far too awake and it was horrid. I have now decided I will be saying 'fuck the routines' until Christmas and new year is over with... and she's been sleeping through the night for a couple of weeks now so I guess I'm doing something right.
Oh Cherry feel for you re New Year. We usually spend it with friends or family but think we might stay in and sleep this year. I usually find it's a massive anti-climax anyway.
Yomping so so sorry to hear of yet more problems for you... I agree hearing your LO in pain is the worst feeling in the world, and the anticipation of it just as bad. Luckily mine was ok after jabs, just cried louder and for longer than any other baby in the surgery! Really hope it gets easier for you soon.
Sorry not to name check more, am also on phone (I used to be able to leave writing posts to name check on old phone but iPhone doesn't allow it... Who'd have thought it?)
Love to all, and be careful - it sounds like it's blowing a gale out there!

October - x-posted but YES! Mini hates bath-time and it's killing me! She started to be ok after first few scream fests - found daytime was better. But now she's back to screaming. Last time she was so happy before I put her in, smiling and laughing at me - then her face just dropped as she realised she was in water, mouth turned down and tiny sobs... Almost broke my heart! So sad! Don't know what to do now... Any tops welcome!

hmm, those of you with good sleepers, can you give me some advice?

babyLondon has been sleeping fairly well. we've been giving her a bath around 9pm and then a bit of massage and naked time, then a feed and sleep at 10pm. with that routine, she will sleep until 4am, has a quick feed and then back to sleep till 6am. but I wanted to try and get her in bed earlier because 10pm doesn't seem like a reasonable time for a child to go to bed so we shifted it all earlier so she bathed and was asleep by 7pm. then I did a very sleepy feed as 10pm where she didn't wake up. we've done this for 3 nights and each time, she was then awake at 1am and then every 2 hours for the rest of the night. it seems that she won't go past the 6 hour mark so it would be better for our sleep if that was midnight till 6am.

any tips on how to get her in bed earlier yet still get some asleep?

Londonmrss that sounds like we were. Tried to change few weeks back and didnt work so went back again. Only changed again now cos suddenly seeming much more tired around 7. He is much much more alert and playing now so I figure more tired. DS is 10.5 weeks. What age is yours? Worth waiting a few weeks then trying again?

she's 9 week's now