November 2012 - come on stragglers, we're waiting for you

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1622007-November-2012-hurry-up-to-graduate-were-running-out-of-November

I don't know if it helps what I said, probably not, but I thought I'd give a diffent perspective.

I had my 6 week check today, at 7.5 weeks. All good, and glad I won't have to wait in that sodding waiting room again. My OB GYN is very good but he doesn't half run late for appointments... Almost two hours late this morning..

petite I think it is a good thing to share different perspectives.

I have left DS with my mum. I am on my own in the fresh air! Just doing the school run, but my mum was so suprised. Worst case scenario he will puke. She has a spare top. He is a lot better today. I would have taken him had it not still been below freezing, DD will be pleased.

His bronchiolitis is clearing up then?

Ok I've just been reading through other pages on that blog I posted. I've been weeping tears of joy - not how I expected to spend this growth spurt. Jonas is stiiiiiiiiiiillllllllllllll feeding but I'm much cooler with this now. Here's a lovely page nurshable.com/2012/05/29/fitting-you-into-the-schedule/ for those trying to balance the needs of a new baby with older kids - it made me weep and made me think of Detective and others doing miracles (aka having more than one child to look after!). I am so going to sign up to this blog as I think daily insights from her will do wonders for me :)

Petite - the joys if being married to a French family is that ff is ok!!

Yw - the long answer is boring but the main idea is that he and I were traumatised by the birth. No support on the ward. Baby had a very poor sucking reflex and goes from sleep to hysterical for feeding. I have flat nipples. Out of hospital we were given fabulous support, but there's only so many times people and specialists can say 'this is odd, we've never seen reaction quite this bad before'. There were extreme things we could have done but ultimately there were no guarantees bf would ever be established. Then my milk just stopped from the stress. That kind of made my decision, along with support from my mw that it was ok to ff and enjoying him was most important. Happy mummy, happy baby. Mentally I was breaking and I think she immediately saw it. Quiet lady but very very observant and knew her patients well. Even mum who is the most pro bf person said she was worried about me and him in our quest to bf. She said the other day it wasn't my fault. I want to say I'm over it, but I'm not.

Even now feeding is a game, you can't hold him a bf position without hysterics. So I stopped trying. He likes to be sat up with no pressure in his head. He's quite funny!! He pulls funny faces and food is like the best thing ever. I guess you don't see that bf.

Love the baby in the plane story!!!

That's a lovely piece of writing. Another blog you might find interesting, written by an MNer is theawakenedparent.org

Worth having a trawl through there are some great articles

Your DH is French?

Detective - I also wanted to say make the right decision for you. Don't feel guilty. People are right that this time is so short, enjoy it.

In totally none related baby talk my fat cat just jumped over the puppy dog. Puppy dog tried to catch fat cat mid air. I wasn't sure what to do?!!! Or what would have happened if the dog had caught her!!

Petite yes half French. Hence ds name x

petite seems so. Cough and vomiting persists for a good while apparently, but his sternum is no longer touching his backbone, his little head is no longer sinking into his shoulders etc etc. He can cough without looking like he will expire etc. how is DD doing?

The cat would have shown him who was boss and the pup would have learned a hard lesson?

And the cat might have needed some time to get her dignity back.

I did wonder about the name horsey.

Thanks for asking VQ she is good. The cold and cough is still dragging on but her breathing is improving and she was weighed by the cardiologist last week and is gaining so nothing to be too worried about. They were a little over cautious in the hospital but better safe than sorry.

Here they often prescribe physio for bronchiolitis if it's a bad case, but other than that no treatment other than oxygen and paracetamol. It's something that just has to work itself out I guess

Woo lovely blog PR

Isn't it? It's pretty much the only parenting blog I read and although the posts about bf obviously aren't relevant to me they are interesting (she is a bf counsellor)

Just read this line about feeding - no informed choice made out of love or necessity is the wrong choice. Think that's not a bad sentiment to remember when baby herding

YW that story was on Sky News as well

YW Lpve the links am reading while my dd feeds...soooooo lovely

I thought it was a boy thing horsey to go from fast asleep to ravenous & screaming in 60s but obviously not, if it was unusual according to your HCP!! Aaron seems to be deep asleep & then suddenly wants feeding.

It seems to me that the problems you had with bfing were like the conditions that created 'Frankenstorm'. Each issue alone might have been surmountable individually, with time, support & patience but combined, it was too much & you chose the only option that saved both your and your baby's health. My RL friend bf her 2nd to 6mths after a very traumatic birth of her first - placenta praevia, icu for both of them - meant she ff her. Things change etc. I hope you can view your decision/feeding/however you want to put it, as no more your choice as creating the weather!!

Hello again. I'm just place marking while I have two mins spare. DS currently asleep in the car seat as I was out. Haven't taken him out yet as I am cooking dinner and know he will want feeding straight away.

Baby j had been taking one bottle a day of expressed milk but hadnt had ine for about a week and refused it yesterday from DH when I could really have done with a break. After reading a few pages of this thread it appears the 6 week growth spurt has kicked in as he was up most of the night feeding :( I'm exhausted and would love a break but if he's refusing the bottle I'm stuck. I could have cried last night it felt so bad. We have continued feeding through thrush and raynauds so I'm determined to keep going but I can see why 6 weeks is a time when people switch to formula. I have marked the link about growth spurts to read and see if that makes me feel any better!

Last night was mad it was like Jonas was a totally different baby and I could offer no comfort and he fought like hell with my boobs. This from a little guy who maybe cries once or twice a day and who sleeps in two 3 or 4 hour chunks every night pretty much like clockwork. Even in his Daddy's arms, where normally he is so relaxed - he was punching and kicking and roaring blue murder.

Today he has been sleeping and grazing, and grazing, and grazing and holding my hand with his wee hand and locking on with eye contact and grazing... I think we're on the downslope. It's awful at the time but it does pass. Apparently small birth weight babies go particularly nuts as they try to catch up at this growth spurt. On the plus side there's not meant to be another one until 3 months (ok every baby is different). Am so glad this didn't happen over christmas! He's now catching flies snoozing on me - he's my lovely baby again :)

I would say prepare for hell at 6 weeks and remember that it doesn't last forever - to get them to calm just let them feed and feed and feed so that they up your supply (or if FF) think they are upping your supply as its what this spurt is for. Please may we not get a repeat performance tonight though.

I could murder a Baileys after that stress.

MM and her DH went round to visit my sister today - she has just been raving about how gorgeous Tilly is on the phone to me, and also about what a devoted Dad MM's DH is. Awwww MM can't wait to cuddle her!

Chunky I don't think it was the zero to hysterical hunger which was odd. More the hysterics being held anywhere near the breast, the biological nurturing position didn't work, rebirthing etc. He rarely rooted, though did kangaroo walk up me, he just didn't open wide enough to latch or show any desire to do that. Then when taken to the breast he would be so upset he had to be taken away and calmed down.

I'm happy that we tried everything possible to establish feeding. I know
I could have done no more in terms of seeking help and advice. It's just something that wasnt meant to be, and as you say there were many issues as your friend found. All of them alone were ok, but together unworkable. As I said I accept I can't bf. I hope if I have another I can experience it. My cousin was able to second time round so if we do decided to have a second, maybe I will. If not it's once of life's events I'll miss out on!!

Just to add, throughout the pregnancy I was always happy feeding either way until I went to a bf lecture. This lady was so pro bf and so anti ff I was sure that I would bf after this. Had I not gone, I dont think I'd have believed half the scaremongering etc etc about ff and have been happier in my decision. Live and learn hey!!

pass ur nighttime routine sounds like mine. LO does this thing where she looks sound a sleep, I look away and think hmm time to put her down then I look back at her and she's staring at me with 'don't U dare put me down' eyes....

Right this 6 weeks growth spurt thing is scaring me! Is not like she sleeps brilliantly now .... So what happens during this growth spurt ?! They just feed all the time ? How long does it last ? I better warn dh !!

I just read that blog article you linked to and It's so wonderfully put! It is hell just now but hopefully it won't last long!