November 2012 - the birthplosion (thanks Peaky)

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Previous post-natal thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1579907-November-2012-babies-are-here-at-last

Stats list: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1485512-November-2012-Stats-List

How did he fall Evil? Was it just a random accident or could it have been avoided? Try not to worry too much, these things happen, I managed to hit my DS1's head on a doorframe once. My DH saw me do it and was furious but it was a completely random accident.

evil perhaps persevere with cot or Moses basket? DS would not sleep in either, but after a couple of challenging nights he is sleeping in the cot. I got so worried I would smother him.

He only sleeps on you, rather than next to you? I am guessing he rolled off you, onto mattress, bounced onto floor. Could you sleep on a mattress on the floor? If a big bed can you sleep in the middle and evict DP? Do not go on the sofa as that is more risky again. If he were to sleep between you and DP he is unlikely to fall off. You could consider getting cot side for bed, or putting bed against the wall, but there are risks with both of these options. Talk to your DP and HV or SS and try to find the safest option. You need to be able to sleep as having a shattered mummy increases the risks too.

The main thing is your boy is hopefully ok, and you can learn from this x

Evil my bil dropped my nephew on several occassions. He's very very clumsy!! If you fell asleep with him on you, perhaps you need more rest and let him sleep in his cot or basket?

Vq colour, breathing, behaviour all normal he just sounds hoarse when he cries. He's had baby snuffles since birth practically. I use the nose drops if he seems really bunged up which so far has been twice. Ill keep an eye on him and call the gp if he changes.

Evil that must have been such a shock but it sounds like he is fine. Hope you are ok.

VQ we seem to have gone backwards in our attempts to get L to sleep anywhere other than our arms or chests. However asleep he is, he wakes on transfer (even to the bednest). What did you do with J to get through the challenging nights?

He was fussing at the breast and bottle, so I moved us to his room where thier is a pull out bed. I fed him but he wouldn't settle and cried when placed in the Moses basket. It's less than a foot high, and we have both slept there safely before. He wouldn't settle so I tried the lying position for a feed, he had some. I must have gone to sleep, and the next thing I hear is a bang and he is on the floor.

Evil

If it's any help, we wrap J in a blanket or swaddle so that when he's moved between arms, bed for feeding and cot/Moses basket then he stays warm. Then we have a hot water bottle in the cot/Moses basket so it's nice and toasty for him, obviously we remove it when we put him in or he'd overheat. It doesn't always work but I think it helps him self-settle.

New ante-natal thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1616108-November-2012-the-thread-where-Detectives-baby-arrives

But the maternity clothes are a bit too big and the non maternity clothes are too small.

evil hope you're ok. I'm sure you are really wound up inside but everything will be ok. < hugs>

Thanks debussy that's exactly what I was looking for. And that's a good idea chunky I have to go to primark to change the size on an outfit that some bought DD2 so I will give that a go. If it fails its only £3 quid lost. I'll try that app, I did download one but can't remember what it was called. I never used it so will make more of an effort with this one.

Had a good night last night. In fact a bit too good, everyone slept in till 8:40am and had to get DD1 to preschool for 9:30 so was quite a rush!

I then took DD2 to the hospital for her weigh in. She's put on 30 grammes since Friday. I have to go back next Monday as they still want to keep an eye on her but they've stopped going on about topping her up with formula so hopefully they'll just let me get on with feeding her.

:( evil hope you are both ok. I think SS is standard for most injuries needing paramedic/hospital attention, you'll probably just get a phone call checking what happened.

I too am struggling with getting N to sleep anywhere but on me or DP overnight. During the day I can put her down anywhere (!) but at night our record is 20 minutes in the Moses basket. We are taking it in turns to stay up - but I'm very lucky that DPs working hours means he can do that.

Just come out of the shower to my brother holding LO "he needs changing" . I felt like saying CHANGE HIM then . However I was greAtful to have time for shower !

evil been thinking about u alot. I'm going to be kinda blunt. Everyone on this thread will at some point accidentally hurt their LO. No matter how hard we try we will do something stupid n keep going over it in our heads. What u need to focus on now is how to prevent it happening again. If ur anything like me, u will replay this in ur head a million times and beat urself up over it. N I think that's what most ppl would do. U need to look at what's happened, thank god ur LO is ok. And then forgive urself n concentrate on doing what u have been doing so far, being a great mum.
Really hope ur ok. X

I've come home from the hospital for the afternoon. LO.s fever isn't going under 38 even with paracetamol and she's on oxygen to help her lungs rest. She's sleeping like a baby whereas I didn't sleep all night.

Feel guilty for leaving her bt there's not much I can do and I need to rest. Will go back for Dr rounds this afternoon then I think come home to sleep at least tonight. Does that make me a bad mum? It's her one month birthday today, and
I turn 33 tomorrow. Wish we could celebrzte in better circumstances.

The doctors think she is developing bronchiolitis which is a baby killer if not treated properly. So it's much for the best that she is there and that I rest up as much as possible. W hope she will be out by the end of the week.

It's really horrible seeing her all wired up and I feel awful leaving her there but other than sit stating at the monitors I don't know what I can do.

Evil I second what GT said. Forgive yourself, this will be the first of many knocks and bruises. Babies are far more resiliant than we are as adults for that kind of thing. It was an accident, and you'll move on. Last year cutting dd1's fingernails we cut the end of her finger quite badly. Beat ourselves up about it for days. It's important to forgive yourself

petite that does not make you a bad mummy. It makes you a sensible mummy looking after yourself. She is young so will not be acutely aware you are not there. I used to find the babies under 1 were easy to nurse as they were not constantly asking for their mummy. She will be sleeping mostly anyway. Make the best of being able to sleep and rest, although I understand that must be very hard. You also have your older child to consider.

I will share my experiences about getting J to sleep in the cot a bit later when my brain is working and baby is not due a feed. I was largely spurred by the thought I nearly killed him. I didn't obviously, but it gave me the incentive to get mean

Thanks Valium.

Horseylady, well done on getting back in the saddle , it must feel great :)

Hello everyone congratulations to you all on your precious little bundles. I am finally joining this thread albeit a week after my little boy joined us. I haven't had a minute to read the thread so far, will try to catch up over the coming days

My little boy Murray Sam Douglas joined us on the 12/11/12 at 13.23 weighing 7lb 15oz, I'm not going to bore you all with my birth story but despite the fact my ideal scenario of giving birth in the pool didn't happen, I was supported fully by the Midwifes and because of that my birth experience was definitely positive. In my opinion their work is truly undervalued so Detective et al I think you do an amazing job

Murray is a week old today, I cannot believe how much our life's have changed, for the better, in the last week. He is a little boob monster and is attached to me from about 4pm until 1 or 2 am in the morning cluster feeding, then rewarding us with about 3 hours sleep in a block. I never thought I would be raving about how great I feel after 3 hours sleep. Breast feeding is, now going well, it was very difficult those first few days. The second night in hospital I was feeding from 8pm right through until 6am and the following night wasn't much better but in sure that is now why my milk came in quickly, so in hindsight although it was beyond difficult it's probably a good thing . And part of the reason that my wee man only lost 60g or 1.6% of his birth weight.

I haven't been particularly emotional, well until Murray had his heel test. The midwife didn't get enough blood the first time which resulted in her trying a second time. Hearing my baby cry and knowing it was because he was hurt and that was partly my fault because I agreed to the test was beyond heartbreaking goodness knows how I will feel when it comes to his injections.

We are taking Murray to get his photographs taken today, I'm so excited .

Petite you have done all you can in terms of making sure she's getting treatment. You also need to stay strong as you have two dd who need you. If that means going home to rest then that's fine!! The problem with hospitals is you get no rest, it's a lot of stress and there is no issue in going home, having a sleep and shower then going back.

You are not a bad mum!! A bad mum wouldn't have acted on the symptoms. I hope she's ok. Ds still has a hoarse voice. Will get him checked tomorrow but he has no other symptoms apart from that!

Keep us updated on how she is.

Evil - don't beat yourself up. I got really strict with myself after falling asleep with ds on my chest once. It really scared me as I just fell to sleep. Anyway I now make sure he goes down in his pram.

Hi everyone I am shocked that they inform ss ...is this a new thing because I ve been to casualty a few times over the years with my kids for bumped heads etc and never had this ????

evil please don't beat yourself up about it. As someone else said (sorry cant check who as am on phone) everyone is going to have something like this happen at somepoint. I still remember when DD1 fell off the sofa face down onto my wood floor. I was mortified but she was absolutely fine. Babies are hardy little things. It's us mummies that suffer more when these things happen.

Different places have different policies re SS and ultimately it is up to the individual. It is probably as he is so young. It is also important to remember that SS can be able to provide support. A referral is not always due to percieved risk.

Congrats cacacaz and thinking of you evil and petit. You are doing right to take good care of yourrself when LO is in hospital petit. It is hard not to feel guilty everytime you leave (baby h spent 18 days on nicu and l felt like that evvery day), but getting worn down would make everything harder in the long run.

Well, thanks to a ff we got 3.5 hours last night. The rest of the night the longrat was an hour. Waiting in for hv now who is an. hour late.

Congratulations Cacacaz it sounds like you are doing great ...keep up the good work Murray and welcome x

I'm breaking the rules here by expressing on day 4 but DH has taken J out and left me engorged. It won't affect my supply as long as I feed it to J later in the day, right? He was feeding on the hour last night so if DH could give him the EBM instead if one of the night feeds then that would give me a break. I'm not too worried about nipple confusion as J has a good latch.

Get it in baby today. As there is a good latch already I am sure you will do fine. It will not hurt your supply. Probably too early to do it every day though.