These babies are going to be calm, easy and sleepy at all the right times, and we're brooking no argument about it!

[Biscuitsandtea]

In here ladies - the other thread was getting full up so I thought I'd better start a new one.....

Will do some links to / from this thread but in the meantime please make yourselves at home

Dreaming I think I may have been doing same as you and not getting food and tabs in right order Touch wood all is well now!

Thanks Jen the upright feeding seemed to work slightly better than any other upright method i've tried

Hope you feel better soon Dreaming

dream and Jen - thank you thank you thank you! Upright feeding is much better for my back and between that and dream's winding technique, plus keeping her upright for a bit post feed, we're getting a lot more wind up :o

dream I hope you feel better soon, rest up!

too it's day 5 today. Hopefully it'll be in soon!

Dh has just eaten my fecking galaxy bar, which he doesn't even like, the fecker! And the shop's closed because it's Sunday!

fluffy leave the bastard :o

I found picking f up to wind then tipping him horizontal then trying to wind again helped loads

I did the palm on chest wind pose but then rotated a two/three circles one way then changed direction. Got wind out of a really well!

6 weeks of pil?! Seriously?! That's the next Stephen king book plot right there...

well i now have a chair by my bed instead of DS2's cot. :(

DS1 in bed all excited to have his brother sharing though. :)

DS2 still through here in my room having a last poo. he'll prob feed to sleep once i get him changed for bed.

hopefully be able to sneak him through without waking DS1 up too much.
we had a 1am poo last night, hoping to avoid that tonight!

sorry for me me me bit.

although i am a bit sad to see my giant tiny wee baby moving out, we did have an awesome blitz of the boys room and wardrobe so it's so much more organised and better use of storage space.

hope windy and in-law problems abate soon...

cont... so the bloody alcoholic chocs, every xmas she buys champagne truffles, every year i refuse them and remind her i don't like them whilst they stuff their faces with them, the same as every xmas its the lemon tart....so 2 boxes were alcoholic so i gave them to DP...

guess what wound me up the most though, was that thurs pm DP was back so late from work (aka drinking after work) that i was asleep when he got in, and i'd ended up eating my tea in our bedroom one handed whilst trying to rock DS2. Friday he was at home at tea time, brought me up my tea as i was again stuck with DS2, he left it on our bed, a slab of gammon and veg, which he didn't even think to cut up for me, and then disappeared off to eat his tea with his folks....gets to last night and he cooked tea, and i was again stuck with DS2 (as in not feeding him, just trying to get him to sleep like prev 2 nights) and he told me to go down and eat tea and he'd try and settle him....so i go down and his mother tells me how its such a nice tea that DP has cooked and its such a shame he isn't getting to eat it whilst it's warm and how he's been upstairs so long..... i'd come straight down, ate and then went up, and felt like she expected me to leave the table having not eaten my tea, just so her son could come down and eat his hard cooked meal (pasta bake using a shop bought sauce...)

that's what set me off...and things not eased today....but thankfully it's 6 week check on weds so they go home soon!!!

PS i hasten to add none of this compares to someone eating your galaxy fluffy or having twins and all lifes crap thrown at you dream!!

my PIL are perfectly nice really, but i get stressed if they're in my house for a few hours, let alone days

...and the galaxy!

listening nervously to monitor, DS1 hasn't gone to sleep and is currently giggling to himself in bed with DS2 asleep in the cot.

loopy, that deserves true rage... Erm, what about you?! Though your dp I'm sure would feel bad he abandoned you without cutting up the gammon, genuine mistake?? I'm sure pasta bake microwaves just fine. Does my head in, if you're the mum, up lots at night, never 'off duty' but your dp is at work its poor them. No way! A meal time while someone else does settling should be your one break. Fact. He got to go boozing leaving his wife and children just about coping after a CS at home, bet mil thought there was no problem with that... You've done so well to tolerate them so long, not much time left... I'm raging with you :) though can't believe A is nearly 6 weeks!

jaggy, at least ds2 still asleep for now . Maybe he'll sleep all night when he's not by your bed?

Oh yes, the horizontal then back to winding, forgot to say that hawthers, tis good.

Your baking sounds awesome too

Right, back to the dc, who keep coughing themselves awake, and coughing til they vomit up gallons of horrible thick sticky mucus/ phlegm, thanks S...

Oh, and fluff, galaxy outrage for you!!! Think I'd make Dh go to a 24 hour supermarket for me- oh, you can't, it Sunday night!! Even more outraged!!!

haha, I spoke too soon. the giggling woke DS2 up. although they were both giggling when i went through, DS2 quickly got grumpy.

DS1 has told us he's not going to sleep today...

now resettling DS2 in living room while his big brother does his best to not sleep.

i do have a back up plan if it all goes wrong or DS2 is ill or teething when I'm back at work. travel cot will be coming to our
room!

your poor wee dc dream, surely this snot and cough has to clear up soon.

DH woke M up going to bed, so he's sitting in the nursery trying to sing her back to sleep. Fingers very tightly crossed!

F*ck sake, he just yelled for me.

It's all going wrong here too. R still feeding and I'm falling asleep on the couch.

at least there's been plenty of time for DS1 to fall asleep...

my head is all fuzzy now I've woken up.

All DH had done was get M to wake up properly so she could see why daddy was holding her instead of mummy. If he's going to try to put her back down, he has to try for longer than 30 seconds before deciding it's not working!

Evening all

So cooking a roast dinner with a stinking hangover was not the best idea. NB, never put veg on to boil without putting water in the pan. Not good.

I had a lovely afternoon off yesterday apart from AF rudely turning up again and giving me yet another hard time. Not as ridiculous as last time, but still much heavier than pre DD.

I forgot to mention that DD has been sleeping in her own room for the last week now and she's been a little angel. She goes down at 7ish, I wake her at 10 for a feed and then have to wake her in the morning at about 9 to take DS to pre-school and she has her first feed when we get back. She's still putting on weight though so no concerns. She's so tiny though, still only 12lb 12oz this week.

Hope you feel better soon Dream, can't believe mastitis has got you again.

Cakes I had awful awful wind pains after my EMCS and the only thing that relieved it was those "windy cocktails" which contain peppermint and something else which I can't remember. The agony of the wind was worse than the pain of the EMCS. I then had anti-biotics which gave me awful runs but the plus side of that was I didn't need the lactulose for the ridiculous amount of iron tablets I needed.

Loopy brooking that your in-laws bugger off quickly. That would give me the rage.

Jaggy I hope your DS's get on ok in the bedroom together. They'll love it in a couple of years time. How sweet.

So much more I wanted to say, but have forgotten.

Still awake here too. She's still very windy - infacol tomorrow methinks - and cries as soon as she's put down. Dh and I are currently sleeping in shifts but he has a job interview Thursday and desperately needs to be rested :(

Oh loopy you've been such a saint to put up with them so long already! I'd be fuming too. Fingers crossed for your 6w check.

Loopy, you are a saint for putting up with them. I definitely couldn't manage for that long - my own parents would probably have driven me mad long before 6 weeks too!

Fluffy, the Galaxy is shocking. I like Dream's suggestion - there should have been a 24hr garage open somewhere! Hope you're getting some sleep now. Think the only way I slept in the first couple of wks was with DD in the chest frog position. Being post CS must make it all the more tricky...

Too, why would he think yelling to be a good idea?! I get annoyed when DH
, who is usually wonderful at the bedtime routine, takes DD downstairs during it for any reason whatsoever. She then gets excited again and thinks it's playtime..argh.

Ag transfer time. Have just gotten DD back to sleep after waking up to her chatting and playing. Not upset, but definitely not going back to sleep...

I'm still awake here although to be fair since 11 she has fed and slept twice and she is considering waking again. DH has an exam tomorrow aft so trying to give him good sleep, i've slept on sofa and MIL is sleeping but ready to have her for a few hours if needs be.

I thought I understood chest frog position until DD arrived and now i'm not sure how to achieve it lol

We're chest frogging now musical, sort of semi reclined. She just puts herself in position tbh!

I got 3hrs sleep which is fab

That is, I'm semireclined, dd is leaning forward onto me. I worry about sleeping with her like this though, SIDS and all that

E slept through

Bar one trip in to sort him out when he got his arm stuck down the side of the cot but that was only at about 9pm. And twice just after we went to bed he cried out and when I went in he was asleep . So although I went in to him twice, he slept all night! Now all I need is for him to sleep all night without waking me up in the process, but that was an awesome night from my little toothy monster

How is everyone else this morning? Hope some sleep was obtained in a non-chest-frog position for the new arrivals. We had to do that for ds2 a few nights when he was new because he had a cold. But DH and I just took it in turns to stay awake while he slept because we were so scared of sleeping with him on us like that. That was fine though because DH was off on paternity leave (pah! I think he worked every day of paternity leave but since he was supposed to be off I didn't feel bad keeping him up!)

Also hoping that the wind problems sort themselves out for dd Fluff. As Dream says often Infacol isn't man enough for the job if there is serious wind but its always worth starting there to see if it makes a difference as it is so easily available. I brooking no argument that it WILL work though and no further measures will be necessary.

How did night 1 go Jaggy? Hope your little giggler dropped off eventually

Scarlet how is dd now? And your hangover?

Dream was your slightly better night on Saturday night repeated last night? As Scream says hopefully this is a corner turned in the Dreamy household. I do hope so. Has dd finished the horrible ABs yet?

I've forgotten everything else

I'm sure it'll all come to me later.....

Oh and Loopy you deserve a medal my love! You have done incredibly to put up with that for so long but the end is in sight! I'm sure I couldn't have kept my tongue with the dinner incident . And I would have been locking FIL out with his stinky fags. I hope they've been useful as well as annoying iyswim. But is it this week they bugger off leave so you can be a cuddly cosy family again?

AAAAAAAAANNNNNNDDDDD I meant to say at your DH and Galaxy-gate Fluff. I absolutely would have made him go to a petrol station to replace it. I really would! I would now let alone in those first few days after birth!

i didn't miss DS2 much as he was up plenty.

i think DS1 fell asleep by 10ish, eventually got DS2 and me in our beds by 11.
DS2 then woke for a feed at 1.30, up again at 3.30 but fell asleep when i picked him up, then more feeding at 4.30 and
6.15.

think it will be easier on days when DS1 has no nap, he flakes out at 7 on those days. he's only having one every 2 or 3 days now.

will catch up later...

I think snuggly newborns must get into that position by default Fluffy. I think it's so cute! . I definitely napped with DD in that position (semi reclined, like you), purely because there were nights when she wouldn't settle anywhere else. I worried about the SIDS risk as well, but took comfort in the fact that a) I woke up at every teeny tiny movement she (or anyone else) made as I was sleeping so lightly, b) It was recommended that babies slept on their front for YEARS, and c) It clearly made her happy!

Brooking no argument that the infacol makes a difference :)

Off on a shopping trip later today with my DM. Need to buy some sort of cosy toes thing for the Baby Jogger - have been making do with blankets but now it's getting colder I think I'll get something specific - plus we're using it a bit more now (DH prefers it to the sling now she's bigger, though I'm still using the sling round town/shops etc). Any recommendations? Especially from the lovely Baby Jogger queen Dream?

Hurrah for E's fabulous sleeping Biscuits!

cakes hope you got a bit of sleep in the end.