These babies are going to be calm, easy and sleepy at all the right times, and we're brooking no argument about it!

[Biscuitsandtea]

In here ladies - the other thread was getting full up so I thought I'd better start a new one.....

Will do some links to / from this thread but in the meantime please make yourselves at home

Right, so post a 2hr nap a much happier dd2 who had 5.5oz of formula and 2 rusks in cows milk for tea (they have to be proper proper bad to refuse rusks I've always found...).

CAnnot believe she's having formula from a beaker!

hawthers - sorry to hear about ds1 and your worries. Don't they carry on having accidents every so often for years? Make sure you get all the info/advice you need from the teachers tonight if it is depressing. they should be there to help not upset you!

V quick post - thanks for the brooking re DS2

DS2 has bronchiolitis (no cute or anything just watch it doesn't get too bad to make sure he doesn't have to go to hospital

Ds1 has pain-in-the-arse-itis - again no cure apparently. I'm posting this while administering a time out in the pharmacy

Our mysterious activity is a sort of general ball sports session. Helps with hand eye coordination etc.

I don't mean no cure for bronchiolitis, I mean it gets better by itself iyswim.

Hawthers, have read your other thread and my heart goes out to you. As you know, in Scotland children can be deferred for a year without so much fuss. A friend has delayed her eldest DD after she had meningitis as a baby, and she intends to delay her youngest, because she was born on 29 Feb (the cutoff here is end Feb). In my year at school birthdays ranged from mid-Feb 1983 to early April 1984 (amongst my friends - there may have been a wider range overall). I don't understand why the English system is so inflexible. I hope you can find a solution - the bit about DS having to skip a year when he starts secondary is worrying.

Brooking for DS2, Biscuits!

Yay for a tooth, Scream! Hope the sleep settles down for you now it's through.

Just read your thread Hawthers. Reading other people's experiences made me think that I would want to do the same as you in your situation. Very frustrating that it seems to be such a struggle and also potentially causing problems further down the line. Is it something that your local MP could support you with as well as the consultants from the hospital?

Poor baby E. I hope he's feeling better soon. How would you know if it constitutes a hospital trip?

I think wants was going back to uni in September.

Yay for A's tooth Scream' fingers crossed you have a better night tonight.

We've had some weaning success today. DD is finally starting to be more interested in food and has polished off half a plum pouch, a small fromage frais and some apple and pear. She's also starting to drink water from her beaker at last too.

Also yay for some weaning progress Scarlet

That is all.

Scarlet, M choked on her water tonight - had been eating beautifully, lots of a HIPP squash and chicken jar plus chewed for ages on a bit of pork chop - went crimson and heaved and heaved and then threw up properly, projectile-style, as opposed to her usual posseting. Orange squash vom all over the high chair. It was really quite scary. I was contemplating doing the Heimlich manoeuvre because I'd been reading a thread on here about how to do it on babies, but that's for solid objects, not water. DH picked her up and thumped her on the back while I dithered.

I went shopping today for a present for my friend's new baby. Somehow I wound up buying more things for M than for the baby. But look, isn't it adorable? And they didn't have it in 0-3 months, only in 6-12. there might also have been a pair of dungarees and a long-sleeved vest from Next that got mixed up with the new baby stuff

V v cute Too.

How can you not have wine in???? Fix it.....

I did share the last Crabbie's alcoholic ginger beer with DH earlier, does that count?

So you're now out of wine AND Crabbies?

I prescribe a trip to some sort of off-licence premises or supermarket tomorrow.

Eek, rushing...

But y, once I finally got s to sleep last night he slept til 3 (b didn't though...) And last night he woke at 10:10 and it took me to 11:40 to re settle him (I tried a bf, no joy) but then he slept til 6 ish :) b didn't of course, sigh . Don't know what's going on with his evening waking and being wide awake though, but the consistency is killing me. Dh first suggestion- buggy. Not helpful. Then he went to bed and left me to it.

I read your other thread hawthers, good luck. Totally agree you're just going for his normal year, and of the 'nuture group' children, quite often they're almost all summer babies, never mind premmies. Stupidly early to go to school anyway, who needs to learn to write aged 4?! I'm pleased DD is a September birthday and already dreading my April boys going so little. I think you're doing the right thing, but I'd be worried about secondary. I saw a child whose parents successfully got him placed in the year below his age then embroiled in a battle to not jump yr5 to yr 7, to go into special school too. How ridiculous, yes, he's struggling hugely, let's make him miss a whole year and see how he goes... Incidentally, my dad put the wrong birthday down for me, it only got picked up when I saw it was wrong on my gcse stuff! He made me 2 months older is making him one week younger really not going to work?!

^^ not being entirely serious there of course, mine didnt affect my school year

I haven't read other thread but I know someone who must be 36 now who was August 18th and went into next school year.

Not sure I totally get the skip a year logic?! Is it for exams? You can take public exams at any age though.

I don't get that logic either, Pomme. Nor that of Alistair Gove saying that if you let one child skip, they'd all want to do it. No they bloody wouldn't! We're talking about a very small minority of children - the premmie ones whose actual birthdays are in a different school year to their EDDs. Those whose parents want them to wait a year, too - not every parent would choose to do this, even if they could.

Biscuits, will instruct DH to bring home tonight!

I totally should have posted on here about it, you all see exactly where I'm coming from. But it seems we just have to wait and see how he gets on. If we do need to put him in his right year then we'll be threatening all sorts of legal action to get it done - fun times

woo there's suddenly a signal in my expressing room so i can catch up!

DS2 not spectacularly interested in bottles of ebm so might try to cut back to once a shift and just let him catch up when I'm at home. I'd probably rather even do a quick extra night feed than wash bottles!

finishing early today. DH finally had a follow up hospital appointment last week after his illness in September. he now has to go in for endoscopy today to see if his ulcerative colitis is looking bad, he's still got symptoms. brooking that it doesn't look too bad as he will be v unhappy if he has to go on medication or anything worse, but i hope it's not that bad

brooking that DS2 is better soon biscuits and for school issues to be sorted hawthers.

too- DS2 had a chew on a big lump of pork the other night and loved it.

keep it under your hats ladies in case the god of bad luck hears me but we've finally exchanged on the house and move next thurs! Needs a world of work doing to it but hey ho!
hawthers hope you get the school thing sorted to your satisfaction, sounds like a difficult situation.
Big love and cuddles to everyone, my mning may be sporadic for a while!

Ooh, and ninja, not been back to your other thread but saw my friends 14 week old the other day, she's pretty silent bar crying too, s was way way quieter than b or DD but makes lots of noises now at 7 months. Congratulations on exchanging!!!

yay ninja! glad to hear it and brooking for no more bother.

yay ninja! glad to hear it and brooking for no more bother.

Ninja, hurray for the new house! Sympathies with the decorating/DIY, though - have been helping my sister a bit with her new flat and it is knackering to even do an afternoon! Yesterday I sat in her flat waiting for their washing machine to be delivered, and tried to paint the kitchen ceiling. M wandered around in her baby walker creating havoc - grabbing bits of lining paper to eat, dropping the spirit level with loud crashes, walking under the ladder when I was balanced on it and crying because she hit her head, and then just crying because she wanted to come up the ladder with me and/or play with the paint. She eventually fell asleep and I managed to get the ceiling finished. Babies and decorating do not mix!

Biscuits, hope DS2 is a bit better today. How was he during the night?

Jaggy, I too would rather do an extra night feed than wash bottles! [illogical] How is work - have you got back into things already? I found the last time after about 4 months off that it only took about an hour to feel fully re-integrated and bored, although it took slightly longer to get up to speed on the gossip work.

Hawthers, is it that the league tables refer to x% of 16 year olds who have achieved 5 A-C grades? Because to make your child conform to a bloody statistic is ridiculous. Change the statistic to 'x% of children sitting GCSEs this year have achieved 5 A-C grades' and I wonder if the problem with letting children into a different school year would disappear.

Dream, how unhelpful of your DH! Getting the buggy out at 10pm is not a viable option. Grr.

Scream, I meant to say earlier that I haven't really started with the No-Cry Sleep Solution stuff properly either, apart from the Pantley Pull-Off. It said to think through the stuff she suggests trying and to put together a sleep plan, which you should stick to religiously for 10 days and then reassess. I was putting it off because it sounded like too much work waiting until I had 10 days without evening/weekend plans which would disrupt M's sleep anyway. Also, she suggests heaps of things - how many new things should you try at once?

Guys, I've done a new thread in postnatal clubs as this one is full.

I've not yet figured how to do links on the IPad so I hope you can find it ok....