These babies are going to be calm, easy and sleepy at all the right times, and we're brooking no argument about it!

[Biscuitsandtea]

In here ladies - the other thread was getting full up so I thought I'd better start a new one.....

Will do some links to / from this thread but in the meantime please make yourselves at home

X-post Scream - sorry to hear about your lonely night. :(

Fluff what position do you feed in? DD never had wind problems but I fed her in an upright position. She straddled my leg and I used to have to put a muslin under my boob to get it level with her mouth. That sounds more complicated than it is but as she was upright she would bring wind up while feeding. This is the natural feeding position according the the MW.

We were advised to use this position at the bf clinic when she was 3 days old as she kept falling asleep too quickly during feeds and this helped her stay awake. Just make sure you support her with your arms and you should be ok. I found it comfortable and after the feed they are already in position for winding :)

Friday night DD had a really good feed then a really good sleep during what is normally her witching hours normally she only settles that well next to me on bed then last night she refused to settle apart from half hour in pram until she was next to me. MIL spent a few hours up with her and then she only settled in her arms. She is also struggling with wind and hiccups possibly not helped by fact I am really struggling to bf her upright. Lay down she feeds well and goes to sleep for a few hours, although this morn she decided not to feed for very long

TMI did anyone else who had c-section have issues with their digestive system, i'm not sure if its a reaction to everything that body has gone through or a reaction to the painkillers i've been taking...

Sorry a bit me me me, fraid I don't have anything useful to say other than hope everyone else has a good sunday

dream you poor thing, on top of twinnage too! I should stop whinging! Did you just stroke up and not down? So far we've tried over the shoulder pats and rubs and leaning her forward with pats and rubs and it does bugger all. She trumps more than she burps though so ladylike

biscuits I read the digestive benefits of fennel tea (whiih is what gripe water is made of) might pass through my milk? Not sure how much I'd have to drink but it's bloody lovely so I figured it's worth a shot :o

I'll try the bendy legs and google infacol when I'm on my laptop next - I did google gripe water yest but it's 1 month and over. Thank you for the suggestion :)

Oh scream :( I hope she's back now and you're enjoying belated breakfast cuddles :)

Ooo there's a page 2!

petwoman yes she's dc1 :)

cakes my digestive systems awful. I had agonizing wind for a while like mother like daughter which eased with the help of peppermint tea and lactolose - I'm also on shed loads of iron which doesn't help, are you?

Jen I feed her crosscradle because it's all I know Is there a photo on google images that shows what you mean? I sort of see the position but not sure how to support her wobbly frame, but it sounds ideal (and may be better for my poor back too)

They prescribed me iron but when my mw checked my discharge info my hb was fine so she said not to worry about taking the iron, so i've gone back to the multi-vit I was taking which has iron in it. I possibly could have done with something like lactolose or movicol but having sorted that aspect TMI its gone the other way

Oh no :( maybe it's just a bug? Or you might just be run down after everything that happened?

I've lost a stone! Dead chuffed as I left hospital the same weight I went in at because of massive water retention

I hope thats what it is.
Brilliant!!!

Cakes, if you mean constipation I had the opposite problem after my CS. Some friends came to visit on Day 2 (still in hospital) and I was in agony with what turned out to be a cross between wind and incipient diarrhoea - luckily not until after they left!

Loopy, you are having your PIL staying for 6 weeks? [horror] That would have killed me. Even if they were supposed to be being helpful. Before DD1 was born I had a big fight with DH because I didn't want his mum coming to stay even for a few days - I get on with her very well as a general rule, but I didn't want anything that might even possibly stress me when I was adjusting to a new baby and getting bf established. Luckily for me PIL booked themselves a 6-week retirement trip to NZ, 8 months in advance, a week before we found out I was pg with DD2. Score! They didn't get back until M was 4 weeks old. Anyway, that's not helpful. But seriously, is there any way you can get rid of them tactfully? 6 weeks is a really long time. Maybe you could just retire to bed every afternoon with the baby so you don't see so much of them?

Dream, yay for a better night! Glad DD seems to be on the mend.

Poor little E with his sore teeth! Does it not hurt when he chomps on your finger? M can make me squeal and yank my fingers out of her mouth and she hasn't got any teeth, just hard little gums.

Fluffy, hope the fennel tea helps! Isn't it a galactagogue too? (Is that the right word? I seem to remember Purple using it. The one that means something that increases your milk supply)

Scream, that sounds horrid. Hope little A is back with you now.

Can I just say, my blueberry-lemon-coconut tray bake is lush? if I don't win a prize with it I will be v cross Low-carb diet out the window again.

Ooo is it too, fab! Still no milk here though dd doesn't seem to dry out my colostrum so I'm happy she's not going hungry. Maybe the tea will help there too

6 weeks loopy

I'll try to explain better. If you are feeding from right boob then she sits on your right leg with her legs dangling down either side. Her head should be roughly level with the boob, roll up a muslin and stick underneath to bring the nipple up if needs be. Your right arm goes across her back and your right hand is on her bum. Your left hand supports her head. As she gets bigger you won't need to support the head so that arm will be free.

Oh I get it, thanks Jen - I'll give that a go next time :) :)

Anything is worth a try. Even if the wind doesn't come up during the feed it may help to stop it going down too far :)

Absolutely - she falls asleep really easily too so hopefully it'll help there, too, like you say :)

Or is fenugreek the one that helps milk supply?

Pass the traybake, Too - I think you need some testers...

Not sure my last message made full sense, hoping its not a bug and just body readjusting or body has disliked painkillers first co-codomaol/ibuprofen then just ibuprofen.
Too have had both issues but touch wood its settled down, haven't taken any painkillers today so if all ok may take paracetemol at bedtime.

Dammit, didn't win! Harrumph. Still, I have lots of tray bake left over, and I think it's yummy.

Maybe it is fenugreek, Pet. Um, I think both do it, although Wikipedia says that there's no evidence for fennel tea helping bm, and actually once caused neurotoxicity in the baby. Fluff, what day are you on? My milk came in on day 5 or 6 after my CS, and M seemed fine with colostrum until then.

Delicious baking, Too ! It's a travesty that you didn't win!

cake, I had diarrhoea and vomiting (agony!) on day 6 after my CS, but i was being thick and taking my anti inflammatory that I can't remember the name of on an empty stomach. Could it be that?? My nausea worsened over about 3 days before the culmination and i still didn't realize

fluff, upright feeding may help, I usually couldn't as mine fed for hours building my supply so had to tandem feed. Yes, just stroking upwards. Lots of trumping does show you're not getting it up, B was the same. Didn't make it any easier!! If it helps, I had jaundice, falling asleep and low birth weight issues with B (I fled hospital on day 4 because if they'd seen his day 5 weight we'd have been kept in for his blood sugars to be monitored, as he was losing weight plus below 2.5kg/ 5lb7?? He weighed 5lb 6 then anyway, a little titchy tike!! He's ebf and has now caught his brother up 1.5 lbs and has gone from 2nd to between the 25th and 50 th.centile!! And all my tears and fears about how unhappy he was were unfounded as now I'm dairy free and he's huge bigger he's really happy. I felt so awful for how miserable he was when he was littler. So keep the faith, this too shall pass!!

Cakes sounds uncomfortable - hope it clears up quickly.

Oh, and I crashed and burned... Seems 5 hours broken sleep with mastitis is insufficient, so started antibiotics, again- is this my 6th or 7th bout of blocked duct/ mastitis with aching, flu symptoms and temperature?!- had a tantrum meltdown and Dh taken my 3 in the buggy... So must go n lie down!!

Dream was the anti-inflammatory diclofenac?

x-post Dream you poor thing - go get some rest!

Dream - you poor thing! The universe needs to give you a break :( Hope the ABs kick in soon and you feel a lot better.

Too, rubbish that you didn't win! I'm sure yours was really the best though ;)

Welcome Fluffy! In terms of wind, there are a zillion different things that people will suggest... I found that leaving DD laying in my lap for a couple of minutes post-feed before picking her up to wind her meant it would come up a lot quicker - often as I picked it up! Something to do with all the little wind bubbles collecting together to one big one in the stomach, that then rises quickly? Whether that's scientifically correct or no, it worked for me! I still do it when possible.

The sitting on lap feeding was good too! Also helped with her reflux.

Just bought DD a bean bag! It's helping masses with her sitting. She sat on one at a friends' house and really enjoyed it. I suspect they're not recommended for such a young age as they could roll over and get stuck, but I don't plan on using it unless she's supervised.... but it's kept her sitting down without straightening out for the longest time yet!