These babies are going to be calm, easy and sleepy at all the right times, and we're brooking no argument about it!

[Biscuitsandtea]

In here ladies - the other thread was getting full up so I thought I'd better start a new one.....

Will do some links to / from this thread but in the meantime please make yourselves at home

I've just had to wake E up! So he could have milk before breakfast so that we could get out to do a few errands that we have to do this morning! I'm kind of curious to know how long he would have slept!

Quick question. DD has a swollen eye. It is the same side as the tooth that is coming through. Do I need to take her to the Dr or would that be paranoid PFB?

Don't know if it is PFB but I would probably go to the doctor for that. Ds1 and ds2 (in his extensive teething experience!) haven't had anything like that with teething. It is likely to be related though I would think as that whole nose / ear cavity all seems to get affected by teething (ds1 always had ear infections). But still worth getting it looked at I would think?

I would check Jen but then I'm always down the doctors getting their ears checked. I have wondered about just buying the ear light thing myself a few times...

dd2 has another face rash thing. Either teething relting or mild egg allergy.

Yucky cold for all of us over here too and the good sleeping run has officially ended as of the weekend.

dream - holding kids down for abs that they need is being a GOOD mum. Not trying hard enough to get it down her would be much worse imo! Hope you had some sleep last night.

relting??? Related...

I've made an appointment, thanks

I'd take her down if I were you Jen. Whether it's PFB or not, if you're worried you should go.

Sorry to hear the good sleeping run has ended pomme :(

On the subject of teeth, can I please brook no argument to the teething gods and request that DD gets one or two soon? She's been teething for two and a half months and really suffering, and it's a bit miserable that there are two so close to erupting but that still haven't appeared! Many thanks, musical - whose fingers are chewed to shreds.

Think I should also have bought shares in teething granules and bonjela...

Jen, take her to the docs, but perhaps also try a squirt of bm on it? I've heard bm to be recommended for babies with sore eyes before - presumably as it's antiseptic but also mild enough not to hurt them.

and , Biscuits! M only got up twice more after 11, though, which was pretty good.

Cakes, M didn't like chest frog. She likes it now, but when she was small she howled and grumped. Maybe it was to do with the size of my boobs.

Musical, hope the shopping trip goes well! I just looked up the footmuff for my pushchair and discovered that it costs about £50! Perhaps we'll make do with blankets for a bit longer.

too we have the baby jogger city select and bought the proper footmuff, but think we got it a bit cheaper than that, will search emails in a sec... have to say it fits v well and is very well made and DS1 v snuggly in it indeed last winter.

fluff re winding, i was told that babies get 2 types of wind, wind from feeding which can come up as burps and wind from bums which is from digesting milk. Infacol works ok, but i find that if wind DS2 2-3 times during feed he brings up a lot and minimises the chance of vomiting. I just sit him up straight, hold him under his armpits and sort of stretch him up and he brings them up himself. Patting can sometimes work but he already moves so much it's hard to hold him with one hand and pat with the other. Lying him on his back for a while and then sitting him up again also definitely works. Re bum wind, if he sleeps laying down flat then he can push wind out and usually without much fuss. If we let him sleep on us, the wind seems to get stuck and pressure builds up and then he screams in pain a lot and it's like it's ripping through him as he farts...so i'm trying to minimise how long he is on us and maximise how much sleep he gets in his crib....although he isn't always as co-operative as i'd like!

grrrr of today, DP's mom put DS1 in cot after his milk at 9, and took his monitor down with her, and only just saw fit to come up and tell me he still hasn't gone to sleep, over an hour later................................... and woke DS2 up in the process of telling me this.......i now have no chocolate left to eat, ate my last bar last night....god help me....

www.preciouslittleone.com/product-information/33/17061/baby-jogger-footmuff---black/

(although not sure which baby jogger you have too?)

If anyone ever was in need of chocolate loopy....

I can't believe that the bugaboo footmuffs are about £80 ! We bought ours with the pushchair so that must have been a tiny drop in the gigantic ocean and I didn't notice it - not sure I could have brought myself to shell out that sort of money for one. Although I do love it and it is so much cosier than blankets. But still.....

I've never bothered with footmuffs. Snowsuits are cheaper and infinitely more versatile and a snowsuit with blankets over is pretty warm!

Oooh! I'd never considered a snowsuit! Ha ha what a thicko! I just figured he'd kick the blankets off and be cold!

Do they kick the blankets off?

I used to tuck at least one right round I think. I think they sometimes slid off a bit but the snowsuit helps with that not being a massive issue.

Guess I'll find out if it works second time round soon!

DD did me proud last night woke about 5 I think so I changed her (discovering her cord clip had fallen off) fed her and put her in basket in our room rather than lounge where she slept rest of night and only woke again at 8.30. So in total between 11 and 8.30 she fed 3 times and slept in one or other of her baskets 3 times course tonight she prob won't repeat this lol.

I can def recommend bm for the eye, DD has had a sticky eye since birth and bm is def doing a good job!!

Have you taken dd Jen? What did they say?

Appointment is 3:50 but her eye seems to have gone down now so not sure what to do

Yay for good sleeping Cakes

I've just had to interview a nanny for when I go back to work. :( All rather odd to ask some random questions but she seemed really nice and DS1 was keen on her too. Only problem is that we don't need her to start until the end of November and I'm a bit worried she'll find something else in the meantime. Oh well I guess there is nothing I can do about that.

Loopy, you may be confusing Too and I - I'm not sure if she has a Baby Jogger, but I have the City Mini! I went to look at the Baby Jogger ones today, but they didn't have any in John Lewis. They didn't have an impressive selection anywhere in fact... so will try online. The thing that puts me off of the Baby Jogger ones are the boring colours! Would like something a bit more interesting (though unisex) really...

I have a snow suit Pomme, would you recommend that method of keeping mini brookers warm then? Will discuss with DH...

Shopping trip successfully negotiated - lots for DD, very litte for me. Naturally. An afternoon of song writing awaits, while DD practices scooting around the room backwards. I have a meeting this evening at 7.30pm - going to attempt to get DD in bed beforehand (would have to leave about 15 mins before), but if that fails then DH will have to do bedtime for the first time. Could be interesting!

Snow suits are awesome. And when they can walk they look like gorgeous little eskimos in them with the hood up.

I've always bought Sainsbury's ones. This year I have matching ones for the two of them (I normally stay away from matching as I'm not sure if its that fair given the age difference).

Why a nanny hawthers?? Im struggling with childcare solutions for A in Italy. I'd thought a nanny but then got scared about putting all that trust in one person so have been investigating nurseries. We've always been lucky here as there is a brilliant nursery at the end of the road so I've never really thought about things much . DD1 will be doing pre school at the International school there as her childcare as I worry everything in Italian would be a massive shock for her.

That's good sleeping from DS2 Cakes and well done to E too, Biscuits ! we had a good night here as well - rocked DS to sleep at 8pm and he didn't wake till 4.30am! I actually had a leaky boob by the time he woke and had been to check on him once Then fed and rocked him back to sleep, and he woke at 8.30! I had gone to bed at 9 so feel extremely well rested, and actually got up before him. But I'm sure we'll be back to the usual wake-ups tonight. I wish he'd go back to sucking his dummy - it was a lot easier than rocking and shushing!

Hmm, think I'll try a snowsuit and blanket here instead of a footmuff and see how it goes.

Jen what did the doc say?

Musical those teeth will both come through THIS WEEK and we're brooking no argument about it!

We've settled on a nanny as DS1 is on kindergarten 5 mornings a week and if we put f in nursery then we'd need a childminder to pick DS1 up after school so would be 3 forms of childcare. Then my head exploded.

With a nanny she can do the pick ups etc and I don't have to take them to the childcare place, the nanny comes here which should make life easier.

But yes its totally nerve racking to put our trust in one person. Will be checking references and arranging playdates with friends who have great nannies and get feedback from them.

Loopy, I have the Quinny Speedi. The footmuffs are a bit too pricy! For some reason the Sainsbos website isn't showing clothes, so I can't check out snowsuits. Weird!

Too Sainsbury's don't show children's clothes online. Very annoying.