March 06 The Arrivals!

[Frizbe]

Hi ladies, have created this to start our postnatal thread, so fire away!

Hey girls, hope you're having a great looooooong weekend.
Friz, think my friends hubby might be at your hubby's event this weekend!
Ummm...nothing to report, just saying hi!
Astro x

Oh bottom, just posted under my pseudonym. LL and any other who have had PND, maybe you could check out the thread TheGuzzler stared and tell me what your experiences have been and what you think?

Astro, really I'll check out your thread when I get a sec tomorrow, no personal experience, but two of my friends are going thru it {{{Hugs}}}

Hi all

Astro read your thread and sounds like lots of people have pointed you in the right direction, and dh is on the case now, so hope things start to look up for you hon {{{Hugs}}} If you need a hand, I'm only up the road, so am always willing to lend a hand if you need it? give me a shout if you feel and extra pair of hand would help and I'll pop down (mon and tue especially good as dd1 in nursery!) If you like I could introduce you to my friends who are having similar things happen?

We had a fab time at the wedding, dd1 and her friend disassembled the bible stack and re arranged them during the service....dd2 played happily with various things and only squeaked once, unlike another little boy who got carted out by his dad....luckily the local church staff didn't mind..... dd1 after a bit of persuasion from me (and my friend who came with me to cover for lack of dh!) got on the back of the tractor and cart covered in haybales and newly wed's to journey back to the field/marquee for the reception, and we all had fun dancing the evening away both dd's lasted until 10:30 when I popped them to bed and then sat outside the tent with my friend having a nice bottle of wine...ahhhhhh.......and then yesterday we braved the seaside at ingoldmells again I think possibly the dd's last trip to the beach this year, although we my yet fit in a visit to Scarboro to see friends, we shall see!

Anyway enough of me, how are you all doing?
Caddy, Munz, are you still out there???

Thanks Friz, you are lovely. Generally I am coping ok with the actual physical stuff (washing, dinner, getting kids organised etc) but a few times a week just have a bit of a breakdown and feel hopeless and pathetic and cry for ages and can't cope with kids if they cry etc.

I've put off posting about it for so long as kept thinking 'can't be pnd as i feel fine a lot of the time, so i'd just be making a fuss about nothing'...but the other day i was just wretched and decided should post. I'm going to call the hv today, although feel a bit of an ass as i am fine today!

I will def call you friz if i get myself in a pickle like that again.

your wedding sounds lovely, can't believe your girls wnt util 10.30 - its great you had such a nice night.

spent the morning at markeaton park and got rained on, and have spent afternoon so far madly bringing in the washing then hanging it out again, then bringing in...now its out again.. aagh!

Astro-big hug, go and talk to someone, HV etc. Its worth it, depressions vile while your there. KNow what you mean about feeling fine sometimes tho.

We have started playing the gloopy grub game with boy. Ho Hum, 2 steps forward, one step back. day one, OKish, day 2 he seemed to quite like his rice , then had a dreadful night (think he had eaten to much and was overfull) now its day 3 and hes just not wanted to know about rice and as for banana, that got spat straight out. Now its bedtime and of course hes ravenous, so i expect another night of donno how many awakenings by a boy with teh munchies. I lost count the other night but think it may have been 5.
Anyone else had this sort of behaviuor?

Astro - I've been house/cat/chicken sitting at my parents so have had no internet. So sorry to read of how you are feeling. Hope you talked to the HV today. Having had PND I can relate to how you are feeling however I too have been exactly like this of late, losing it every few days etc. I would say that last time I felt like this ALL the time and the feeling of failure was overriding. Right now I can see that am tired and that overall I am not too such a bad job IYSWIM? Think this is a good thing! Just cried at Supernanny as thought I might turn into the mum who swears all the time!
I've emailled you my number so feel free to call anytime but no pressure and keep talking about it as that's the most important part.

hi can i join the thread. ds2 was born in march 06 as well

Sarah, last 2 nights Kiah has been terrible at bedtime and is feeding loads.....must not give in!!!! I can't remember anything about weaning Tilly so no advice. Am hoping to go completely for soggy finger foods this time tho....
Good luck with the gloop!!!

Hi Bananaloaf and welcome -tell us more about your wee one....not sure about that name helping my diet tho!!
Friz, wedding sounds fab - we've still not got to use our new tent due to the arrival of the Mossley Monsoon!!
Gothic - which century is your HV living in???

ds2 was born 7 march. he is sitting at my feet as i type. havent got him into a routine compared to ds1. desperate to crawl and is manging a belly crawl.)is trying desperatly to pull feet under himself. ( and i am trying desperatly to remove his feet from under him started weaning 6 weeks ago but cant actually remeber how i did it with ds1!

Another wriggler then! Kiah is a complete immobile lump tho she has decided that she can sit up now!
She was born on the 29th and Tilly is 2.6....what is the age gap with your two?

ds1 was 3 in jul so 2.7 between them

Sorry Banana got distracted there....a few of us have toddlers on here. We are not the chattiest bunch but we are very friendly.

Hi Banaloaf at ll and your name, I am going to start ww again next week, honest! no really I am this time.....have started to wean dd off the boob after last nights performance, of pretending she wanted boob and she didn't cause when I got close to loosing it, I grabbed her dreamfeed bottle and lo, she just wanted cuddles with me........so I left her with a bottle and dh (poor man) and she was asleep within 15 mins, seems she's gotten too close to mummy this last week with him being away! (particularly camping as she spent the night asleep with her arm over my boob.....
Astro, will mail you my number as well, as think you may not have it, can't remember
Uni, here's my food experience at the mo, I just keep trying with everything and they get it in the end (at least that's what I found with dd1, who hated broccoli for 1st year of eating and now loves it!) things a bit bitty and bobby here, tried the new oatibix for breakfast yesterday, talk about lead balloon, never seen dd2 so unhappy! so she tried weetabix today (she's 6mths on sat), slightly better, but seems to prefer banana overall!
Also tried petit filous for lunch yest (1st time I've offered lunch) went down ok
Will also eat boots organic rusks and orange flavour rice cakes (taste horrible to me!)
For tea we're doing half savoury (mushed veg) and half fruit (mushed or pot variety, as the dredded Tesco doing 8 organix pots for £2) which are going down in various qtys....defo have a grabber and thrower tho, which dd1 didn't do much...getting fed up of kitchen cleaning aftermath already....

Where are Gothic, Munz, Rom and Caddy?

Oh sorry Banana, I have a dd1 2.10 next week who is currently going jealous of dd2, now that I'm feeding her food, so often finding myself feeding two of them....

Hi bananaloaf.
I have a DS born 9th March (so almost twins with yours!)
And my DD is 2.3.

WELCOME

(feeling ok today, thanks for the hugs girls. AM going to call the HV though this arvo)

Morning Astro,

Just reread my post of last night and I didn't really get my point across very well. I was meaning that you may not have PND just complete knackered with a baby and a toddler syndrome!! Whichever way you are doing the right thing to get help and yes you can bf on ADs if they are offered to you. My GP was crap and I didn't have ADs but this time am well armed with MN info if the need arises.
DP has taken girls off for the day armed with EBM - I am meant to be working but in fact am just determined to enjoy a kid free day. Can your DH do the same for you?? Sometimes just a bit of space is soooooo nice....

thanks ll, yes, hopefully don;t have pnd but still talked to hv this morning (yay...v. brave) and she is going to get the pnd HV to come and have a chat. Unfortunately I have all the 'high risk' factors for pnd (no family support, big country/job move, 2nd child. etc). In a way i think it would help for someone to say 'its pnd' so that i know its not just me being a crap mother/psycho IFYSWIM. Whatever the outcome of HV visit, I don't think i need ADs, bt just wanted to know about bfing just in case.

This morning I went for a walk with Eli and a friend and her bub while Luie was at nursery, rather than doing the hoovering! Eli doesn't take a bottle but w are working towards ebm in a cup, so hopefully soon i'll have some completely child free days now and again. Also considering sending Luie for another morning a week at nursery, to give me a bit more space.

hope you are having a lovely day without your LOs...Luie still talks about seeing Tilly at the park and putting sand in her hair!!!

Astro, I emailled you about family etc. and whatever the HV thoughts on PND or not PND are you are not a crap mummy at all - I've seen you in action and you passed with flying colours! I think in my borough you get special priviledges if you have PND like baby massage etc. so maybe you can tap into that near you?
Agree about getting Luie into nursery a bit more - Tilly is there for two days a week and it really helps my state of mind. HVs can also help you out with any toddler troubles you know - mine have been a great ear bender over bedtime tantrums.
BTW Tilly has impetigo again so is banned from nursery this week.
Well, haven't done much with my day - a bit of work, a load of washing, chatting about blow jobs on MN etc etc.... Kiah has managed 3 oz from a bottle and I have expressed the same amount over Neighbours.

To clarify I mean whilst watching the soap and not literally spraying my next door neighbours with milk.

Lol and you know I'd read it as spraying the neighbours too
Glad you managed to have a chat with the HV this am Astro, we should all try and do another meet before the weather gets too pants.

LOL at spraying neighbours! I think I could have done this morning. Hurah for boy he had a fairly normal nights sleep last night. feeds at 7.30, 10.30 1.30 and then he slept till 7am. I was uncomfy from 6.30 ;-( so got up and expressed some milk for his lunch etc. 8oz in about 10 min! ice cube tray is full now.
Think the growth spurt feeding frenzy may have passed.
Experiments with solids continue. Banana, big bleugh spat straight out ditto apple even mixed with rice. runny rice (warm or cold) is still coming straight back out as is runny with lumps. however cold and made as stiff as stiff to stand a spoon up in and he wolfs it down... esp if I'm not paying tooo much atensition.

ello all, on quick not for long thou at DB's.

hope all's well with everyone, boy's cut his tooth eating 2 meals a day and growing fast!

hope net is on tomorrow so I can get back on here - been a nightmare withiout it!

We have locomotion! Boy was playing on the floor behind me just now ( wooden laminate floor so quite slippy) and when I turned round he was 18 inch from where I put him and had his legs under the futon. The method seems to be push up on arms which sends the legs backward on this floor then go down then repeat. Its teh 1st really noticable linear motion from him rather than twiddling round in a circle.
Interesting the hear about solids from others. Have decided to play it cool as hes actully not very interested at the mo, the 2 rice feeds he has likes have been isolated sucesseses. Am seriously looking at baby led weaning as an approach.
Tomorrow is Boys "not a christening" party. So stress for me and unidad and lots of people for boy to play with. Will let you know after the event how I coped with MiL. Shes likely to be disaproving of many things, has been saying we should have boy sleeping thro by now and should be leaving him to cry to acheive this*, so is bound to have veiws on his weaning.

• I will be considering this next week as I want to change his bedtime routine so he doesn't fall asleep on teh boob everynight, but shes been advocating it for teh last 3 months.