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Frizbe · 21/03/2006 14:19

Hi ladies, have created this to start our postnatal thread, so fire away!

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laundrylover · 23/07/2006 20:58

Munz how much sleep does he have in the day? Kiah only has 2 naps usually and an hour each at the most.
Saying this tho I think she is just a good sleeper 'cos some babies are and some aren't (like Tilly til about 7 months).
My friend had a really bad sleeper but just got tough a few weeks ago (born Dec) and left him - he is much better!!
If the formula isn't making a difference I would be tempted to drop it if you want to carry on bfing eh?
Oh yeah I've got ing mastitis today. What is wrong with my boobs???

Frizbe · 23/07/2006 21:03

Munz, hmmmmmmmm does he appear to be in discomfort with the SMA when he wakes up??? or is it like you say, he wants to play, so is needing to re learn to settle himself, as dh has been kicking about present at those ridiculous hours.....(I'm currently getting up at 6am and dozing on the sofa, as dh has been taking dd2 downstairs and now she's gotten used to it and won't re settle in her bed at that time...grrr...)

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Frizbe · 23/07/2006 21:04

Cross posts LL, at the boobs hon, when did that kick in then?

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romilly · 23/07/2006 21:11

sorry to hear munz you are having a tough time too

laundry - dont worry about your babe not rolling - its a complete pain in the arse at nightime, believe me! at least until she learns to roll back i am not happy with the rolling antics. hope the mastitis clears up quickly, ouch.

friz and astro - rolling babies too? uh-oh.... astro, she does do it in her sleep - but thats what worries me cause she burrows her head into the mattress

Frizbe · 23/07/2006 21:16

Rom, does she faceplant into the matress then or does she remember to turn her head to the side?

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munz · 23/07/2006 21:18

well watch this space, was down at 7 today, his naps today were 20 mins around 9.30ish (we were up at 7.30 today) 30 mins around 11.30 ish, then I think 2 hours about 1.30 and 45 mins about 4.30 cos he was soo arsey. has been awake since 4.30, so far he's moaned a bit at 8 so had a cuddles in his room then put him back in. can hear him crying out now (dummy back in thou)

LL - rotton luck with the mastitus, it's horrid that bloody thing. do they have you on the bloody horse tablets! lol. is this the first infection u've had with it?

friz - I only assume the hour thing is the SMA as it happened the night after he had it last time and last night so i'm thinking not to give that and just BF as it's what i'd rather do. it's nice in a way our DH's giving us a break but i'm sure they don't realise we have to deal wiht the aftermarth once they get back to their normal time tabels etc! lol.

hester from the oct thread (don't know if u remember her friz from ttc) mentioned a sleeping lady/coach thing, she recons it took her 3 days and only cost £100, and the LO's going 7-5 so if things don't improve might talk to DH aboutt hat - althou he's for CC.

anyhow gonna go try get some shut eye b4 he wakes again.

munz · 23/07/2006 21:20

don't know what to suggest with the rolling tum thing rom. can she do back to front rolls or is she on her side for sleep? (if it's back to front i'm v impressed! joey's only managed that once) lol.

Frizbe · 23/07/2006 21:36

Munz, have heard of the sleep clinics, but tbh the main thing they practice is the controlled crying thing anyway, they tend to just give you a structure, (which you can do yourself really with the help of us lot!) and then get you to stick to it, via controlled crying/ensuring the usual distractions are out of the room......see how he goes on the boob tonight I reckon, I'm assuming your logging all of this down anyway! and then try him with formula again tomorrow for a dream feed and see what happens after just one bottle. If you get the same response and you still want to do a bit of formula, swap for something like Aptimil instead of the SMA. HTH's??

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romilly · 23/07/2006 21:39

yup munz - back to front - im not impressed! wish she wouldnt

friz - that is the big problem - she doesnt turn her head to the side - she does usually cry, but when she was really lethargic in the heat i watched her doing it and she sort of fell asleep in front of me with her head down - not for very long cause i intervened of course, but its soooooooo stressful i cant bear it

Astrophe · 23/07/2006 22:01

Munz your nughts sound hellish, don't feel right to complain about mine . Poor you, you must be absolutedly exhausted. For us the weaning seems to be helping, last nught he was still up 2 times, but settled ok in the evening so at least I had time to eat dinner etc. How much was postage from that website? Did you order the fab bright coloured muslins? They only came with 3 in a pack when I got mine, so lucky you, cos they come with 4 now I think!

Rom, I hope your DD learnes to turn her head, I'm sure she will soon. My DS is asleep on his tum, again, and I'm not v impressed but if I roll him he will wake up and scream, so what can I do?

Thanks Friz for the timetable, t'was helpful, and LL for info re. DDs sleeps, which was going to be my next question! How often/long does everyoines LOs sleep? I am trying to gently introduce a flexible routine as am losing the plot with the chaos. I'm sort of aiming for this (below) which seems to be what he sometimes does anyway...but not sure if he should be sleeping more...

5am/6am - boob
8am/9am boob
awake (possibly breakfast, but not yet)
11am-ish sleep (he goes long if at home, but short if out)

12/1pm ish - boob and lunch

3pm sleep

5pm ish, awake and boob
6pm dinner
7-8pm bath, boob, bed.

If the am sleep is short he sometimes has 2 in the arvo, as can't last until bedtime otherwise...

So tell me: does this sound like enough sleep for a little fellow, or am I a cold hard task master? I mean, is i worth trying for a routine when they're so young I think my DD just fell so easily into a routine, and I didn't have a toddler so it wasn't important to me anyway...but this tim I NEED a routine...I CRAVE a routine ...

Gotta go order tescos...will pop back soon

Astrophe · 23/07/2006 22:03

PS. LL, Think I caught Mastitis off you then!!! Grrrrr

Frizbe · 23/07/2006 22:19

Oh no Astro, not you with ouch boobs as well
Astro your little one is sleeping roughly the same as mine, short after 11am boob and about 2/3pm until 4 for us here!

Rom, sorry being a bit thick there, with dd1 the sleepingbag used to keep her on her back, but with dd2, she just rolls with it on anyway.....I guess like Astro says she will learn to turn her head, but argh what a scarey time in the meantime.....was wondering if one of those neck pillows placed around the top of her head would keep her still?? just a thought, can't say as I've tried it....

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romilly · 23/07/2006 22:27

friz - which neck pillows do you mean?

if i miss your reply 2nite its cause im on my last legs so off to bed

nite nite all x

Frizbe · 23/07/2006 22:51

Was just thinking about the kids ones you can get for the older ones in the car??? probably a stupid idea, reckon the rolled up towel down each side of her would be better actually....

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Astrophe · 23/07/2006 23:05

Rom, you could try this ...I know I've seen something similar on a UK website somewhere, but I can't find it at the mo.

Thanks Friz...think I will attempt routine this week before my folks arrive on Saturday.

Astrophe · 23/07/2006 23:36

Here is a uk site that sells them Rom: Safe T sleep wrap
HTH

munz · 24/07/2006 07:46

friz - we've tried a dream feed (sorry forgot to mention that one, with that he was every 2 hours, but i'd cluster fed so not sure if he's having the milk and it's coming back up in heart burn or something, after a few hours, since I stopped CF'ing him he seems to take the boob better and doesn't bob on/off crying, so that answers that problem) dream feeding him in general didn't work (althou again that was witht eh cluster feeding) maybe I should try it tongiht at 11.30 if we get that far! lol. I'm not fond of CC myself, but DH thinks it's going to be the only way and thta i'm too soft (althou I don't see how u can really be too soft with a baby?) i'd love a structure, always have for the past 5 months but DH doens't stick to it, he thinks we should go with what Joey wants but I feel that he's a load better when he knows what's comign and what should be happening when. and to think we started out so well - it was going to p'mouth when he was 3 months! lol knocked the whole thing off!

anyhow a typical day for us is:- (that's i'm trying very hard to implement)

6.00/6.30 up, boob,nappy change, dress play whilst I have brekie etc.
7.30/8.00 am nap (althou he will some times stay awake for 2 hours, naps vary from 45 mins to 1,5 hours dependign on the dummy falling out - althou I think i've began to 'rescue' him as if he grizzles after 45 mins I go in sharp and put the dummy in otherwise he'll wake up screaming again,
typically thou the nap will be for 1 hour.
9.00/9.30 play boob bum change if needed play again till ratty (normalyy 1.5 hours again.
10.30/11.00 nap for 45 mins-1 hour
12.00/12.30 play boob bum etc
2.00 ish normally another nap. of an hour or so,
4.00 if ratty anotehr one (normally is for 45 mins) then awake till bed time which i've brought forward from 8/8.30 to 7pm (going to be firm on this one now i've started that for the last two nights) typically it's bath boob and bed (the 3 b's! lol.

doesn't seem to matter at the minute nap time's what the night is like - althou last monday he napped every 1.5 hours for 1.5 hours and we had a 'normal' night (old type) i'd like to carry on with the EASY thing we have going on but not sure if that's workable any more. once fed at 7pm, I fed last night at 1.30 and 6.00. althou he woke at 11.30, 3.30 and 4.30 on top of that. didn't give him formula, I have noticed he seems to stay awake more when he's had that so perhaps thats one to definatly miss?? anyhow any tips would be greatfully recieved, gonna ring the h/v today as she's normally v good and see what she suggests, also going to try a little bit of apple when he wakes up (althou apple in a drink for him goes in one end and straight back out again, so don't know if the food will have the same effect.)

astrophe - u carry on hon, it's just nice to hear i'm not alone in this! lol. (who's idea was it ot have children again! lol ) and to think I wanted 6 of em! lol. yep i've ordered those muslins and also some of these love the site, am waiting for them to come back to me about postage at the minute. more worried about the duty this end, I knwo some baby stuff is exempt form VAT but not sure on blankets, althou I think the value is only £30/£40 so it shouldn't be too much. u sound like me wiht the routein! and when DH sauys he doens't need one I feel like stamping my foot being a spoilt child and saying well I bloody well need one! to think, at teh start he was soo lovely/easy! lol.

rom - we use the pillows either side, lay him down on his side and put em up tight to him, only thing I can say is when he rolls back it props him up but he can still roll and they go flat - althou I guess if she was to roll forward then it would stop her from being face down. worth a try.

I really feel for u girls havin mastitas, I found expressing helped esp if I coaxed the milk down as well (althou this also amde the boob ache afterwards, but least it cleared it all out)

anyhow as the SMA is now a no go does anyone want it on here b4 I give it away on one of the FS boards? it's those little sachet thingys with 4 oz feeds already scooped out inside - didn't have much money on me at the time and that was the cheaper option of SMA.

whats the difference with aptimal anyways? is it gentler? I was hoping to introduce 1 bottle of formula on a night only so DH could do that one, and also he will take the formula when I start to stop BF - which I was hoping to get to 6 months and then think about stopping.

anyhow gotta go to welfare and hand in my removal papers. - did u know that ginger squaddie blokey, he's only our welfare office apparently scandle on the estate! lol. and apparently the previous one ran off with a capt's wife as well . sorry to keep moaning on, will try to get back on track again. thanks girls (((hugs)))

munz · 24/07/2006 07:49

should add off to the PO of weds so will post out then, don't want postage or anything cos i'll only bin em.

Astrophe · 24/07/2006 09:24

(((((HUGS))))) Munz...we had a crap night too...fed a 9, 1, 4, 5.30, then grizzled. Is back asleep now mut DD is up, so I am too. What is happening??? My boobs are so full though, as if he is drinking less now because of the solids...not really supposed to happen.

Astrophe · 24/07/2006 09:25

No thanks re the sma, my boy wont take a botle at all since we 'forgot; to give him one for about 2 months!

munz · 24/07/2006 09:56

is that just the mastitus thou? I alwasy found Joey would feed form the boob then they'd be rock hard straight away, only thing I can suggest for that (if that's the case) is to express a little after each feed. and the dr said to offer the bad boob every feed regardsless - let them have 5 mins on the good side to quench their immediate thirst hen stick em on the 'bad' side. I really feel for u hon cos it's a horrid thing to have.

sorry to hear about your night as well. are you on anti botics? I also found they unsettled the boy a lot. I honestly don't know how u girls with a toddler as well cope wiht it all esp when you've been up half the night.

so far we've had 1 1.5 hour sleep and woke at 8.45 am so fed at 9.15 and are currently playing - well he's playing for a minute whilst i'm looking on here

Frizbe · 24/07/2006 20:36

Munz sounds like a good routine you have there, and you know when he needs to feed at night, so that's good, now just to get him to settle on his own! (easier said than done I know...) do you have any cot toys for him to amuse himself with? have you tried just pick up, put down at all? TBH I think I'd leave it until you've moved and dh is about, so dh can do the pick up put down bit and in the meantime I'd take him in bed with you to shut him up and get yourself some kip (but then that's just my opinion, cause I like my sleep too! so feel free to ignore) Hope todays been ok and tonights even better.
We had a so, so night too, 11.00 dream feed ok, then dd1 woke at 2am, dh went to her, then at 4.30 dd2 boob, then dd1 woke up as heard me moving, argh! both back to sleep by 5am, and then they slept until 8am
When we got dd1 from nursery today dd2 was beside herself with excitement, she really missed her big sis today, 1st time of many I'm sure
Hi astro, good luck with the routine, how's the boobs today? LL how are yours? (good job this is a parenting site with me asking q's like that, lol)

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munz · 24/07/2006 21:30

LMAO@ friz - ahy I can just see all u girls at your next met up talking about boobs! lol. good job we're not meeting up whilst ttry can tlaking about our discharges! lol. days gone really well today am v pleased with him, we had 2.5 hours in the morning before 11am, then from 11am to 7pm he only had 2 hours but he went down lovely at 7pm, woke at about 8 for a feed (as I missed his 7 o'clock boob after feeding at 5.30) and went straight back down again, so far not a mumer - fingers crossed. glad the LO's let you have a lay in this morning.

as for the PUPD - i'm all for it DH thinks it's mean as in his logic joey will think he's being picked up and then abandoned?? so he's for controlled crying which is why i'm trying to use these 3 weeks to get him sorted out, i've been tellin DH this is his new routein and this is how it's going to be for bed time - i'm sure he'll see the benifits when we have a night alone lol.

looks like there's a growth spurt around 5 months girls - a few of the feb girls have had the same prob so least we're not alone those with bad sleepers at teh mo! lol.

anyhow off to bed with me after that early start!

Frizbe · 24/07/2006 22:43

Great news Munz you can tell your dh, theres not much difference between pick up put down and controlled crying, only the time difference, at least with pup pdn the little one is more reassured!

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laundrylover · 24/07/2006 22:46

What guzzley little babies we all have eh?? Here's for a good night's sleep for all!
Astro - how's the mastitis?
My boob is much better with ibruprofen so haven't had to touch the antibiotics hidden in the cupboard. I was really reluctant to as amstill completing Flucon course for thrush!! That does seem to be working tho - fingers crossed.
Well today DP and I took a day off and paid my sis to nanny for us so that we could go to Huddersfield and meet a builder at the plot that we looking at but he didn't turn up. When we phoned they claimed to have left a message about a flat tyre but I tell you that's one company that won't ever be building our house!!

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